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  1. 6 points
    And after staying up all night, the Beast is here. The hardest article to write all year (just cause the amount of time that is needed to put this thing into a coherent format). The Draft Grades https://lastwordonhockey.com/2019/06/23/2019-nhl-draft-grades-lwoh/
  2. 5 points
    I like the signing, salary is easy to work with, term is good. Brings punishing, physical play, as well as a good first pass and sound decisions in his own zone. Also has experience playing against top 6 opposition having played next to Big Buff. His career is also trending in the right direction, his responsibility and role has been growing, his numbers have been growing. All in all I like the player, I like the contract, and I like what he brings to the table. With that said, he is not an ideal candidate to play with Weber, they bring too many of the same elements to the table to be good complimentary pieces for each other. He is however, an ideal candidate for Petry, who could then go rogue and help the forwards more often, knowing he has a steady force holding down the fort behind him. This signing does improve the D, but it does not improve it in a significant way, and does not bring Weber an ideal partner. I see... Mete - Weber Chariot - Petry Kulak - Juulsen While it may be better than anything we could have put together last season, it is not a big enough leap forward to transform us into a team that can make some noise in the playoffs, much less a low key contender, which is disappointing. I am not disappointed with the player, he will have a positive impact on this D. I am not disappointed with an improvement, because it is one. I am disappointed with CURRENT situation, because a lot can change from now until training camp, but thus far, having the cap to fix some important holes and make quantum leap improvements to this roster, we only have decent improvements to show for so far. I will keep a measured and patient approach leading into training camp, but I think we can all agree this is a welcome step in the right direction towards improving the team, it is also not nearly enough.
  3. 4 points
    Dude. Its hudon. Not hundon. Not sure if your phone is auto correcting or what, but for the love of God stop calling him hundon.
  4. 4 points
    The bottom line is no one got played. Bergevin tried to get a player with a front loaded offer sheet knowing full well that there was a good possibility the offer could be matched. He risked nothing in making the offer. It may have been unlikely to work, but it was a low-risk, high reward play if it did. The player was content to sign cause Carolina was lowballing him, and would not offer any signing bonus. Signing bonus makes the contract essentially lockout proof and buyout proof. Aho knew it meant either moving to Montreal or staying in Carolina. He wanted to move (sent his agent to lobby for that), but was comfortable staying too. If he wasn't comfortable in either spot, he would have demanded a trade instead of signing an offer sheet. Carolina matched the offer, paying the player more than they intended to, but still not so much that it was worth losing him. it was business... no one got played... they all used the CBA in the way it was intended to be used. In order to get played, you have to be scammed out of something... no one was scammed out of anything.
  5. 4 points
    Aho is the only player on the entire Carolina roster to have any signing bonus money on his contract. Just saying. The idea that they could test the Carolina owner with signing bonus money wasn't a bad one. It was never guaranteed to work but was very much, low-risk as there was nothing to lose here.
  6. 4 points
    I'm no Bergevin apologist, but at this point, I'm pretty sure he could swap Hudon for McDavid, and people would say we have too many centers, and would complain about the cap hit. He tried an offer sheet, the other team matched. Unless people were content with 5 years of Aho at an inflated salary, for him to depart during his peak years, and losing 4 first rounders to boot, well, I dunno what to tell ya. It pretty much seems like a given that the Canes would've matched anything (for sure the two 1st rounder,2nd,3rd offer), potentially even an offer that would've surrendered the 4 1st rounders. Is Aho an $11M or $12M player? I ask that sincerely. Do people REALLY think this was done with a wink and a nod towards placating fans into thinking he was doing something? Sheesh. I will say that the movement of Shaw gave the appearance of clearing cap space for something a bit more definite, though. I'm also not ready to declare the offseason over on July 3.
  7. 3 points
    Guys... their names are TATAR AND HUDON. Not Tartar and Hundon. You ruin your credibility when you cant even spell the players name... and its just 5 letters. Its not that hard a name.
  8. 3 points
    Habsworld loves to rip on management. We just generally like to do it based on reality.
  9. 3 points
    At this point, who cares? The Habs have no fewer assets than before the offer sheet. I think because offer sheets happen so infrequently, people expected it to work. The ONLY way it MAY have worked is if the Habs signed him to McDavid money. McDavid money for buying no years of UFA? Ridiculous. The same people complaining about the current lowball offer would be complaining about overpayment...or if even the offer made worked, would be complaining that the Habs didn't buy any UFA years. There honestly would have been no outcome from this that wouldn't have received criticism. I get people are unhappy about the lack of improvement to the team so far this offseason. However, the offer sheet was a valid attempt, but an unlikely resolution.
  10. 3 points
    There are still teams out there with RFAs and cap crunches. Vegas is over the cap with only 20 players on the roster. How are the Rangers going to fit everyone under their cap... 8 million in space and Trouba, Lemieux, Buchnevich, and DeAngelo need to be signed. Trouba alone is gonna cost over 6 million. Chicago has a million in space but needs 2 more players. Toronto and Tampa likely have to clear space for Marner and Point. Florida has 5.4 million in space but only 17 players. Washington has 4.2 million but needs to sign Djoos and Vrana, and that would put them at 22. Vancouver seems ok to me... 5.5 miiion... 27 on the roster (so add 5 million) and only Boeser and Goldobin to sign... but we have reports in the Vancouver paper yesterday that they want to clear space. San Jose is tight to the cap too. As arbitration dates get closer and these RFAs get contracts there will be more pressure on teams to make trades.
  11. 3 points
    What Brendan Kelly does NOT know about hockey could fill the Bell Centre and half the other rinks in the league. He is a doom and gloom hack who never has anything good to say about Les Canadiens. It is a sad commentary on the Gazette that they have gone from writers like Michael Faber and Red Fisher to a non - expert like this one.
  12. 3 points
    His PR team is spinning the situation. If you want to believe that's 100% the truth and no PR spin... that's your choice.. but hey, I've got some great real estate in Brooklyn and Florida that I'd also like to sell you. Also some great beachfront property in Arizona.
  13. 3 points
    He has to play there for 5 seasons. Do you expect him to publicly state "I really didn't want to come back here. They are basically holding me hostage until I can get out in 5 years. Also, to the fans of Carolina... #### you."?
  14. 3 points
    Armia and Lehkonen filing are both for contract negotiations. Hudon filing is literally just another bullet in his, "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, TRADE ME!" gun.
  15. 3 points
    I already explained this..... They have 25 players under contract on the roster... .when Armia and Lehkonen sign, that will go up to 27. If Hudon signs it will go up to 28. 23 is the max NHL roster. Sending 4 players to the minors or out on trades (likely Alzner, Weise, Peca, Lindgren), will give them additional money (just under 4 million) that puts you at over 11.5 Hudon out gets your roster down to 23 (no cap savings here, cause he isn't signed, he's RFA)... so money in, money out... meh. Then you add someone to the roster. You are now at 24 on the roster. One more person has to leave to make room. Assuming thats another demotion to the minors, its an additional 1 million in room. Thus the Habs have over 12.5 million in cap space today that can be spent on Armia, Lehkonen, plus one new addition.
  16. 3 points
    Good that MB is reinforcing Laval. Imagine if his job were to reinforce the Montreal Canadiens? Oh...wait a minute...
  17. 3 points
    There is no guarantee we would have drafted Debrincat.
  18. 3 points
    And you as the troll. The only time you come on the site is to scream about trades or offers. You took an entire year off from posting during a surprisingly descent season. As soon as something negative happens for you to focus on, you're right back. Nothing personal. I enjoy your grumpiness. But as much as illwill is a cheerleader, you are the reciprocal boo bird.
  19. 3 points
    Everyone pissing about it not being 9 to 9.5 million instead is absolutely missing the point, just like MB stated in the presser, the extra 500k or million over the course of the year will not make a difference, it is the bonuses that make the difference, and front loaded bonuses to boot. You think adding an extra 35k per bi weekly cheque was going to be the make or break point for Carolina? You think a higher cap hit matters to them, they aren't even cap strapped. You think maybe asking a low budget NHL team who has been losing money year after year to dish out 22 million in lump sums during the next 12 months is the most effective and only play to hit them where it hurts and give yourself the best chance to walk away with the player? I'm thinking so. You also inflict the grievous wound of paying all that ridiculous money to a player who does not want to be in your organization and you can't trade him without paying him that 22mill. It could trigger that innate response to say "To hell with that, i'm not cutting 22 million dollars worth of cheques, an entire season's worth of gate revenue, to this kid who doesn't even want to be here." Either way, this was a brilliant play with the best odds of success, there was no other strategy with higher odds, the high signing bonuses were the way forward here. They can still shop while they wait, deal with maneuvering after, the only guys they would really be interested in at this point who are left are Gardiner and maybe Dzingel. If they really want Gardiner, there is nothing stopping them from making him an offer and signing him regardless of what is going on with this offer sheet shuffle things around after. You know, for all the fantasy talk we see offseason after offseason about offer sheets and wanting your GM to be aggressive in his hunt to improve your team, some of the reaction to this well planned move is pretty disappointing. People just refuse to give Bergevin props, but they are right there within seconds to give him wallops though, and if they are forced to give him props it is the most reluctantly forced thing ever, veiled behind the hope his plan fails all together so the wallops can continue two fold. The man has made some blunders over the years, he has also done some pretty savy stuff, it is time to stop pigeon holing him into the peg where he can't do anything good even when he does something good, the negative twist must always exist. He put himself and his team in a bad spot based on some of his failed ideas in the past, but man am I going to plainly admit he has dug himself out of that spot commendably and through good to very good decisions,consistently, over the course of the last 24 months. Not many GMs would have the resolve to dig out of such a hole in a market like this, and not many would have been resourceful enough to pull it off the way he has, I'd argue majority of current GMs would have failed to make the situation better in such a short amount of time, if at all. He is adapting and evolving on the job, he is much better at what he is doing and how he does now than he was 3 or 4 years ago even. I can honestly say he has changed my mind about what he is capable of as a GM, and that happened simply because I was open minded enough to have my mind changed at all. Some of you here, and many on social media could perhaps do the same, it is pretty hard to give this guy a bad mark based on his body of work during the past 2 years, and 2 years is a long time. Perhaps a little recognition and hopefulness going into the next 2 years would be in order? Just a thought.. End Rant, Apologies
  20. 3 points
    Live view of Bergevin walking into the press conference
  21. 3 points
  22. 3 points
    He was an elite defensive forward, the best of his time. People who did not see Carbo play probably cannot appreciate the way in which he really could control a game; at his peak he was just as impactful in doing this from a defensive perspective as a guy like Ovechkin might be from an offensive POV. A fully deserving member of the HoF in my opinion. On a side note, I'm one of those dinosaurs who thinks it's unfortunate that the Selke now routinely goes to high-scoring two-way forwards. The award was designed for Bob Gainey, the prototypical defensive specialist. Carbo was Gainey's truest successor.
  23. 3 points
    Here it is https://lastwordonhockey.com/2019/04/15/cole-caufield-scouting-report/
  24. 3 points
    He did not "get dumped because he is a liability to his team". That's not true. He got dumped because his GM has mismanaged the cap and no one will take players who suck like Nick Bonino or kyle Turris, who they would rather dump but would have to include assets to do so (ala Patrick Marleau). A player who is an actual liability would need to have assets included with him in order to get another team to take on the contract. His value is depressed because of the contract... but it wasn't negative value.... the Predators got picks and two prospects. Obviously not full value because of the contract... but not negative value either. At least be accurate in your statement.
  25. 3 points
    Maybe you got downvoted for smug trolling? There are clearly several factors in play here, including Nashville's cap and stacked D situation. We could also measure the trade by how many playoff series have been won by each team since then. Weber's also coming off a down year where he looked gassed down the stretch. That said, the Preds sure sold low on PK.
  26. 3 points
    26 of my top 31 were taken in the first round. I consider Bob McKenzie the master at these rankings. He hit 26. I am now 2-1-1 head to head with him in the last 4 years. Sportsnet was showing quotes during the draft. They quoted our site for SIX different prospects. I'm buzzing.
  27. 3 points
    A compilation of scouting reports on Caufield: http://www.habsworld.net/2019/06/habs-select-cole-caufield-15th-overall/
  28. 3 points
    i think he likes wearing 92million bucks to practice
  29. 2 points
    Taking the chance cost us NOTHING. I don’t believe there will be vengeance - given that in the past when offer sheets have been tendered, GMs seemed to see it as business and not take it personal. If Domi or whoever get tendered an offer sheet, so be it - match or take the picks. I feel MB looks better today than before - because he took a swing. So what if he missed. For years we wished GMs would go for those RFAs. We have a GM that tried. That said - if he is done and this is our opening day team, then he failed. But it’s July 9. I’m ok with the Aho try. He hasn’t failed yet. Those thinking MB is terrible can continue to lay in excited anticipation of his looming evidence of ineptitude - but it’s too soon to pounce. Im encouraged by last summer and continue to be in excited anticipation of some move that justifies his clearing of salary. I hoped it was a UFA signing. It wasn’t. I hoped it was an RFA signing. It wasn’t. But there are still trades that can be made. I still have hope.
  30. 2 points
    Bergevin has addressed one of our key weaknesses this past season (backup goaltending). If he can make another move to give a boost to the PP, it should get us to 100+ points and into the playoffs. The backup goaltending alone should get us to somewhere better than 96 points and a playoff spot. If he can make a bigger move (Laine, Gardiner, Gostisbehere etc) before the start of October then we can be a more serious threat in the playoffs.
  31. 2 points
    Aho wanted a five-year contract. Waddell wanted a seven-year contract. Bergevin wanted Aho in a Habs sweater. Aho got what he wanted. Neither Waddell or Bergevin did. But I don't think either one of them got suckered, both were surely aware of the possible outcomes of their actions.
  32. 2 points
    Some may recall, but Carbonneau was considered a great defensive prospect but was also a high scoring junior prospect when he was drafted - 182 points in 72 games for the Sagueneens in 1980 and had 94 points in 77 games his last year in the AHL. Sure, the QMJHL had some pretty absurd offense numbers those days but that's still good for 23rd best all time there (Lemieux holds the record at 282 points in a single QMJHL season - lol). The Habs developed him mainly as a checking line C and never really gave him a chance to develop his offense. He's the best of his era in that role. He was also a leader on the team and, despite the role, did contribute on offense despite rarely having line-mates that could score much. He also set the club record for short handed goals in a season twice. 3 cup rings (captain for one of them), 3 Selke trophies (and he unquestionably deserved more - 83, 84, 85, 86 and 90 are the years he should've won the Selke, or at least 2-3 of those years, beyond the 3 he did win in 88, 89 and 92). Worth noting for those that don't remember, he also won the Jack Adams in 2008 as coach of the year for the Habs...wasn't right that he was fired the following season. I don't see this as marginal at all...the Habs of the late 80's through early 90's were generally strong well rounded teams that really had no "superstar" offensive players - they were well balanced teams. We're talking about an era that pumped out 100 point a year players all over the league and I think the only one they had in the 80's was Naslund in '86. Carbonneau was the lynch pin of the defensive style they played...well, beyond Roy in net...lol.
  33. 2 points
    I guess our discussion on this thread is probably going start to wind down but I'd like to add this. I was listening to a Toronto sports radio show earlier today, I can't remember who made this comment, but the guest on the show was asked about the possibility of an offer sheet to Mitch Marner by some rival team. This is what the guest said at one point about offer sheets. He said, Montreal did it exactly the way it's supposed to be done. They picked a player they really wanted, on a team that was vulnerable, with a reputation for not wanting to spend a lot, and Montreal structured the deal exactly the way it's intended to work. They heard that Carolin'a last offer was $7.5 million, so they offered a million above that per year and then heavily front loaded it hoping that Carolina might balk at having to give up that much money over the next 12 months. Montreal didn't set the compensation, that was already in place, but he said Montreal intentionally kept the offer within their own internal cap so that Aho wouldn't be making more than Carey Price and in the event Carolina didn't match Aho's contract wouldn't handcuff them and put them in cap trouble a year or two down the road. He said even though Carolina matched, he said Montreal's offer was well planned and was perfectly set up so that it suited them and the player perfectly. Bergevin has taken some heat and criticism, but from people whose agenda isn't just to bash Montreal, such as some commentators and players, I have heard nothing but praise for Bergevin's attempt. My final thoughts on this is that I think he did very well and if Carolina didn't match we'd all be singing his praises. It was a good move and might possibly change the future dealings of teams regarding UFA's. For me, I think he's done a very good job and that's a turnaround from what I thought and wrote a little over a year ago. We still have the rest of the summer to go, and his biggest trade last year was late in the summer, so let's wait and see what he does! We know, without a doubt, that his goal is not just to look good, but to make our team better.
  34. 2 points
    I think that we overhype the expansion draft. Don't worry about it. Build the best team possible... protect your 7 + 3 + 1... and then lose one player and move on. The teams that did this came out fine. The teams that tried to do trades to play around with the expansion draft... Florida, Columbus, Anaheim, they are the ones who lost the most. You lose your 12th best player (or 13th, 14th, 15th if you have good young players) ... so does everyone else. No need to set your roster a year in advance on this.
  35. 2 points
    Yeah, you are willing to wait and see how the cap space is spent. Of course there are other posters here, who don't show up for the entire year when the Habs are playing well... but post every day when they are in last place... and came back to the site after the offer sheet to drag Bergevin through the mud. So some people you can see are willing to be objective. And then there is H29 who is really just a semi-sophisticated troll.
  36. 2 points
    It is a great trade this year for the Leafs, but Barrie is UFA next year, as well as Jake Muzzin. Whereas Kadri has 3 years left on a great contract, that's why he has so much value. Colorado has their top two centers MacKinnon and Kadri locked up for about 11 million per year over that time, that is more impressive than the Leafs filling a hole for a season. I doubt anyone here would have liked to trade Gallagher for example, for a LD with an expiring contract.
  37. 2 points
    So its Christmas day. My wife just showed me a picture of my brand new ktm 350 that I probably dont get. Not only that, I can't have a Honda 500 either. And I have to wait a week. But if I get it, it's a really good deal.
  38. 2 points
    Bergevin finally did something i wanted, but I think being Bergevin, he still made the right play but still fxcked it up. Should have offered $9M, would have been costed an extra 1st round pick, but more of a chance that the canes don't match. I can't see the Canes not matching this. I saw a report of offering Poehling and Suzuki and 1st and 2nd picks. I;d be reluctant go give up Poehling and rather give up 2 first picks instead of two players closer to making it.
  39. 2 points
    Kinkaid's a lot younger though and won't be subject to 35+ provisions like McElhinney would if he signs a multi-year deal (as is expected). I also think Kinkaid will be cheaper and considering they're already spending $10.5 million on a starter, that's probably playing a factor in what they want to spend here.
  40. 2 points
    Thats fine. He can play 20 minutes a night in the AHL. I'd rather him do that then to play 8 in the NHL. He can come up for a few games when injuries hit, as can Suzuki. They are 20 years old. If their camps are unreal, start them on the team. If it continues in the regular season, trade shaw or byron or move out thompson or whatever.... but thats only if they force you to do it.
  41. 2 points
    I still think it best to go the NCAA route for at least one year, look at Poehling now after waiting couple years, being in weight room twice a day and practising more than playing. Let the kid adjust to playing vs older bigger faster competition first.
  42. 2 points
    We dont know what was offered and what was available, and what teams wanted Nashville to retain or take a bad contract back and Nashville wanted 9 mill in cap room. What we do know... he was 3rd place in Norris voting one year ago. Thats a fact and you cant change it.
  43. 2 points
    Just, i will stick with Josi and crew instead thanks and no other GM would take him without Nashville retaining salary so basically had to give away for 2 2nds & chump change was best deal they had offered. Who would of guessed he was available for that? (if Gardiner will get $6-8m/yr, Subban doesnt look bad at $9m for 3 more years)
  44. 2 points
    I do love the tweet, though!
  45. 2 points
    Flyers have a pretty solid D corps now, but need help up front, so Gostisbehere is expendable. This Flyers site proposes the Flyers asking for Drouin in trade (yes, please): https://www.phillyvoice.com/nhl-rumors-flyers-trade-shayne-gostisbehere-montreal-canadiens-listening-calls/
  46. 2 points
    I'm OK to be a bridesmaid on this one, especially if it's $10M+. I really just want a quality defenceman for Christmas!
  47. 2 points
    I have to think scouting US high school hockey has to be a huge challenge. There are just too many schools and leagues to scout effectively.
  48. 2 points
    He's small but the Habs need scoring in a big way. Caufield can do that. (And he's a right-hand shot, something they don't have much of in the pipeline as well.)
  49. 2 points
  50. 2 points
    I don't think you pick Ryan Suzuki just because his brother is with the Habs. Sometimes brothers work out (Maurice and Henri Richard), sometimes they don't (Sergei and Andrei Kostitsyn). You only pick him if he is the best player available when their turns comes up.
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