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  1. 5 points
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    I'd bring in Karlsson and have Petry at 5.5 and be fine with it. And I don't think Karlsson is getting 11. I think he's getting like 9.5. His injuries cost him some money this past year. But even at 11 I'm still fine with it. I keep my top 3 defence... move one to the left side. If I need to clear space, I'm selling high on Andrew Shaw... you can get some savings there. If you sign Karlsson, Benn is allowed to walk so you won't have him on the books. Habs have 11.7 million in space right now, with 23 players signed for next season... so we'd have room to bring in Karlsson even at 11 with just a little move like trading Shaw and replacing him with a Suzuki or Poehling. Send Alzner to the minors, that also clears up some room. Send Dale Weise to the minors and that clears room. And the only notable RFAs to sign are Armia and Lehkonen. By the time next year comes around, and you need to make space again, you'll have another cap rise, you'll have Steve Mason's buyout off the books. You can trade Alzner a lot easier than you can right now, Dale Weise and Matthew Peca come off the books. You've likely got some other moves you can make too.
  3. 3 points
  4. 3 points
    I'll follow up to my post now that the season is over. As for billeting, it was an ok experience. Our transportation arrangement fell apart about 2 weeks into the school year, which made for some challenges. In fact, the family that agreed to provide transportation more often asked us for help, so we severed that relationship fairly quickly. My biggest concern coming in was transportation, and that issue presented itself fairly quickly. As far as the player, he ended up not quite being the role model we expected. It turns out he's the talented kid that's been catered to thus far in his hockey career. He was the big fish in a little pond, and here, became just another fish in a big pond. He wasn't used to putting in the effort and earning his coach's trust. As such, it made for a difficult start to the year, to the point where we were expecting him to not return after the Thanksgiving break. He was benched a few times due to attitude issues. So while we had hoped he would be a positive role model and influence for our son, that wasn't the case. There was literally zero extra effort put in other than what the team had scheduled. Overall, he's a good kid, respectful, polite, and about what you'd expect from a 15/16 year old. Will we do it again? With our own son playing competitive hockey at a different association, no, we will not. The transportation became difficult, and my wife and I want to watch my own son, not divide and conquer during the hockey season. As an interesting note, our billet's 15u AAA coach has resigned his position after several years (and being named the 15u coach of the year) to become the 10u (Squirt) director at my son's association. My son will be a second year squirt this upcoming season, and is one of only 2 returning goalies. My wife and I are hoping he gets placed at his correct playing level, rather than a default AA goalie because of need. Last year, my son's team was again fairly strong (28-10-2). Their lowest placement in any tournament was 2nd, including an OT championship game loss, and a championship game shootout loss, and his team finished second in the state.
  5. 3 points
    My two favorite teams are Montreal and whoever plays against Boston. For 2 weeks I love the Blues.
  6. 3 points
    How can you not "care much" whether those reprobates, those jabbernowls, those scum-sucking, filth-chewing, stench-emitting, bile-spewing, face-licking bags of festering dog pus, the mother-frigging Boston Bruins, win yet another Cup? I propose that you have your lifetime membership in Habs nation revoked!! GO BLUES GO!!!!!!!!!!!
  7. 2 points
    The trouble with Drouin is that, yes, he's 24, but he is also had five years in the league (four of them as a full-time player) and his production is no better now than in his rookie year. At some point you have to say 'well, he's never going to figure it out.' I'm not saying to close the book him or that he absolutely will never put it together. But I am saying that the preponderance of evidence so far is that he is more likely to be Andrei Kostitsyn or Alex Galchenyuk than Guy Lafleur Lite. The Kosty/Galy parallel suggests itself because those were also talented players who basically flatlined rather than evolved as NHLers, and what all three have in common is that they play an individual game rather than seeing the whole ice, reading the play, and using their teammates. You can have all the tools in the world, but if you lack hockey sense, then you've got no toolbox. Eberle is another story and I agree I wouldn't trade Drouin for him. But if I were a betting man, I'd bet on Drouin never becoming a whole lot more than he is right now.
  8. 2 points
    I like Heinola and Stromberg because both have shown that they can play at the adult level, in Liiga and Swedish elite league, respectively. Heinola average 19 minutes a game against strong adult opponents and Stromberg 17, so I have at least some confidence that they have what it takes to break into the NHL.
  9. 2 points
    A great story by Arpon Basu in the Athletic today, about Mete training shooting with Tim Turk. Turk says Mete is very coachable, and is improving quickly. Turk is really good, and can take credit for some of Gallagher's improved scoring as well. I'm confident that Mete will put some numbers on the board next season, and hopefully take another step towards being a legitimate top-four LD. Athletic's story is subscription only (though they do have a free trial) but here is a preview from Turk's web site: https://www.timturkhockey.com/how-victor-mete-is-changing-the-perception-about-small-defencemen-by-being-an-excellent-defender/
  10. 2 points
    I honestly think Karlsson will be wearing a Habs jersey, come October. The Atlantic has so much star power, if the Habs have any shot at playoff contention, they need some game breakers. If the rumors are true and Karlsson's wife wants to be close to home, then I would almost guarantee he will take a "home town" discount. 9.5 is a very likely number. Give us a guy, Bergy. This team needs a legit game changer, on the back end.
  11. 2 points
    I'm going to go against the grain here and say, if we can get Karlsson to come here, it should be to play on his offside, on a top pair with Weber, and to play the minutes he will be paid to play. I don't want him playing on a second pair, I don't want Gardiner if we get Karlsson to then have to trade Petry, who is a better version of Gardiner while not costing us the same kind of cap and term Gardiner would. Karlsson, for me, is the main target, Gardiner is the consolation prize, but I honestly doubt he wants anything to do with another fishbowl market that will start social media raging every time he turns it over. A top 3 of Karlsson, Weber, and Petry is the stuff dreams are made of, handedness be damned, if anyone can handle playing his offside along side of Weber, it would be an elite defender like Karlsson. I've said it earlier in the offseason and i'll say it again, Karlsson should be target #1 on the UFA market, it doesn't mean we are going to get him, but anything else should be plan B.
  12. 2 points
    There is absolutely no hockey reason for Drouin to be untradeable. If (hypothetically speaking) MB could get Gostisbehere in return for Drouin and parts and didn't pursue it, that would be gross negligence on his part.
  13. 2 points
    That would make it an overpay imo, If we have to throw in a forward with our 1st rounder, it would have to be in the Lehkonen range of value, our pick is the 15th not the 25th. Either way I think there is something that could be done if we do in fact offer our 15th pick in a conversation that involves Gostisbehere, and i would be all for it due to his age. But there really is no one else on LD worth throwing our 15th pick at that could be available, it is literally only him because of his age, his contract, and skill set.
  14. 2 points
    That’s what great about this site - the excellent input from knowledgeable fans, like Commandant 👍
  15. 2 points
    Interesting. Before I read these posts I was thinking Leddy would be exactly that guy; one who immediately slots into our top 4, if not top pair. But if his production has honestly fallen off, well like you guys, I’m extremely weary. If we could acquire him more cheaply I’d still be willing to take a shot though. But thanks for the input, I didn’t realize Leddy’s game had a serious drop off!
  16. 2 points
    I'd take a flyer for a cheap price. I've always thought he has talent. I actually think shooting right is an advantage for him. At RHD we can afford to have a 7th or 8th defenceman. At LHD anyone we acquire has to be a top 4, we have more than enough bottom pair and press box guys.
  17. 2 points
    Why? If you win within the division, you have weakened a direct rival. That surely is better than weakening a team you only meet a few times a year, and which you don't need to compete with for a playoff spot.
  18. 2 points
    Make it a Jumbotron decision. If it is so obvious that when the refs look at the Jumbotron, they're able to change or make a decision, than go with it. Otherwise, the call on the ice stands.
  19. 1 point
    They don't need another winger. Put all the cap towards Karlsson. You basically get a winger and a d-man with Karlsson.
  20. 1 point
    Age is an issue with drouin and Eberle, no question. Maybe Drouin will put it all together, or maybe not. This might be Drouin's ceiling, and there is nothing wrong with that. Maybe when people (me) accept that this is Jonathan Drouin, it will be a little easier to take the good with the bad.
  21. 1 point
    Drouin was no where near as bad as the hyperbole suggests, he is at the moment, the frustratingly real example of why french Canadians don't want to play here, and the crap they very likely would end up dealing with. He is still very young and growing and maturing into the player he will be in his prime. He gets crapped on so much more than he should from fans and media, simply because he gets extra attention for being who he is on this team. He manages to average 50 point seasons as a 22 and 23 year old marred in positional experiments and confidence sapping situations, he is getting trashed left right and center for not being a player he never will be or has been. It is too much to expect any young player to deal with and succeed to his maximum capability, every turn over feels like you are costing a game 7 cup final, every failed back check makes you the laziest player in the league. Hilariously though, when the season finally derails and the player is completely without confidence and it shows every night, we still act so shocked and appalled, not once considering the kind of shitty environment we are creating for this one particular player. At some point, it just reaches an agonizing to hear, read, and watch level, I see a kid with an immensely high ceiling who plays the game in typical "highly talented enigmatic player" way. He is far from the first or only player torn from this cloth in the league, and for every time we crucify him for having a passive game or being crap defensively, he pulls out magical moments like his end to end OT winner among other things. Imagine if Florida had essentially given up on Huberdeau when he was 23 or 24 years old because he was too enigmatic and his work without the puck was lacking, how foolish would they look today? Players with a skill and talent ceiling you can hardly see when you look up, are way too risky to judge before the age of 26. Also, expecting a player who never was a 200 foot player, or a corner digger, to suddenly become one, is not putting him in a fair position, or one he can succeed in. Can he improve in those areas over time? Sure, but will they ever be strengths in his game? Not likely, his strength is the ability to pull off things few if any players on his team can, and on any given night, break a game open like only he can when he is on. It would be like the fans and media trashing Gallagher because he never goes end to end and dekes a few players out before scoring a goal his game is lacking game breaker capability, therefore he must be whipped for it. Absurd isn't it? We are honestly sitting here right now, throwing him under the bus so hard, that we are talking about swapping him for a 31 year old who has averaged less points than he has in the last 2 seasons.
  22. 1 point
    My friends seem to be torn over which was sweeter: seeing Marchand cry like the snot-nosed little puke he is, or seeing attempted murderer Chara slumping his despondent way through the handshake line. Personally I vote for Chara, whose nearly crippling deliberate assault on MaxPac I will never forget or forgive.
  23. 1 point
    Which of those is a puck-moving defenceman? Hell which of those is a top 4 defenceman? I think I'd rather just keep Kulak as the top 4.
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    You could just swap the dates for the draft and free agency, that wouldn't have as much impact on vacation dates.
  26. 1 point
    It's coming from a TFP guy (a sketchy site when it comes to rumours) and is seconded by the TFP guy whose crusade a year ago was swearing up and down that the Habs and Kings had never discussed a Pacioretty trade at the draft...and we all know that Pacioretty himself had said he'd talked about a contract with the Kings at that time but that he didn't have enough time to make a decision. Until it comes from someone semi-reliable, I wouldn't read anything into it.
  27. 1 point
    Almost all big name UFAs are an overpay. That's just a fact. And this is why I tend to prefer that we swing for the fences on a genuine potential game-changer like Karlsson than a very good, but not transformative, player like Duchene. If you're gonna overpay, it should be for someone irreplaceable like Karlsson.
  28. 1 point
    Even if Duchene doesn't happen I still wouldn't be opposed to seeing if trading Drouin, Tatar, or Shaw can bring in a LD with term. There are other free agent forwards available that would fit the Habs nicely.
  29. 1 point
    I think Duchene would be a mistake signing. To me, he's more of a 65 point player. That's not worth 8 or 9 million per.
  30. 1 point
    Amen, brother. I understand that there are risks with UFA signings, but even with injuries Karlsson has put up points galore. Imagine if he gets healthy? What an exciting, game-changing player he could be for us. If he seriously does want to play close to Ottawa, then this is a swing-for-the-fences opportunity and we should take it. Don't worry about plugs like Benn or other lower-rung guys on the cap - you can always ship out assets like that. Too much caution gets you nowhere; as Stephen Harper once told Jack Layton, "you know, Jack, sometimes you've got to take a risk."
  31. 1 point
    It can be in play but its about who its in play for Gost sure due to age and contract. But it shouldnt be in play for 29 and 30 year olds . We shouldnt be doing what vegas did with us for pacioretty or what they did for stone or what sj did for karlsson etc... we arent where they are in the build cycle either
  32. 1 point
    Drouin and a first is likely an overpay. Yeah Maybe Drouin and columbus' 2nd round pick for ghost
  33. 1 point
    Drouin for Gostisbehere?
  34. 1 point
    On the rumoured names I want Jake Gardiner, Cam Fowler, or Shayne Gostisbehere
  35. 1 point
    Leddy just doesn't fit the need here, we need to acquire the kind of LD that makes it a no brainer, no discussion, to whether or not He or Mete are better off on the top pair, anything less, and you might as well just stick with status quo, which we obviously don't want. What we ideally want to find is a guy who bumps Mete with Petry, and Kulak down to solidify the 3rd pair, no rolling the dice, no "Our Compliments" brand top 4 LD. Another Petry type of guy who shoots left would be great, something slightly less would be acceptable, either way, I am hoping that is the kind of hunt we are on.
  36. 1 point
    Leddy is a heck of a skater (still) so i dont think thats it. For whatever reason, he's giving up way more quality shots against then he was before. He's generating way less shots at the offensive end. And on the RH side. It doesn't matter who he is paired with... his partner does better when not paired with Leddy than when paired with him. All of this is true since Dec 2017. So I'd be really weary of giving up assets for him.
  37. 1 point
    3 recent examples; Matt Barzal 16th Dylan Larkin 15th Thomas Chabot 18th Lots of great prospects picked mid-1st round, but thanks for letting us know you arnt interested anyways.
  38. 1 point
    Apparently, the Hughes brothers have combined into one player. from https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2837972-nhl-draft-combine-2019-dates-schedule-format-and-top-prospects "Top draft prospects Jack Quinn and Kaapo Kakko are expected to attend and participate fully in the combine."
  39. 1 point
    Worked out pretty well for the Raptors so far. Also nice not having Lebron in the way. Raptors make the NBA finals for the first time in franchise history with yet another come from behind win over the Bucks. Heck of a series. Thursday will mark the first NBA finals game played outside the United States.
  40. 1 point
    Damn im good. 3 for 3 on guessing close to the cap hit. Though 3/4 cause i said thompson would walk.
  41. 1 point
    Does Johnson need to be attached to a Kessel deal though? Because that's a big yikes from me. I'd rather pay Johnson 8 years to not play for the Habs than the 4 years left to play.
  42. 1 point
    I do look at ages, but... he's still 18. Yes he turns 19 in September... but the fact he is 18. He's also in his 3rd year in the QMJHL. Ok great. We are all excited about what Suzuki did in the playoffs right? and he's another year and a half older than Lavoie. Imagine we had a player we drafted in 2018. I don't know, lets just imagine Fonstad (turned 19 one month ago). scored 20 goals in 23 playoff games. If that happened, we'd be pretty excited by that performance one year after the draft (and Fonstad is 5 months older than Lavoie). So while age matters, I don't think you can ignore just how dominant Lavoie has been. And he's a third year QMJHL player at 18, this isn't some overager in his 5th year at 20/21.
  43. 1 point
    Hey, I'm a fan of the Blues. In fact a wrote a little blurb in praise of them a year or two ago when the Habs were facing them (can't seem to locate it now, alas). Many commentaries seem to frame them as a bland, forgettable franchise. But as you say, there are THE story of the NHL's second half over 2018-19 and - if they win - probably one of the greatest stories, ever. How many teams come back from last overall on January 1 to win the Stanley Cup? But beyond that, the Blues, far from being a "bland, forgettable franchise" in general, are an admirable franchise. They're part of that classic first-wave of expansion and are indelibly associated with that great era because of their multiple Finals appearances. They never tank. They're almost always competitive. Their fan-base is dead loyal (and seems to be comparatively free of the incessant whining and self-pity of Vancouver, despite being a similarly sad sack organization in terms of playoff luck). You never hear about ownership trouble; and also never hear any hysterics or drama from that quarter, unlike in cities like Montreal, Ottawa, or Toronto when things go awry. They've had tons of classic players, many of whom retire in the community and retain a deep connection with the team. They have a fine old-school crest and jersey, have one of the league's best team names. What the flippant call "bland" seems to me to be a great expansion success story and a quiet class act. Can they beat the Bruins? They'll be underdogs, but they play that heavy, grinding style that playoff hockey favours, and they do have that elusive Team of Destiny air. I think that IF they can avoid the basic trap of feeling fulfilled just because they made the Finals - that is, if they can stay as hungry for a Cup as they were to make it here - they have a solid chance.
  44. 1 point
    Verrry interesting. Small sample size, but does this suggest the Habs' problem lies in something other than coaching and systems? I'm a huge Muller loyalist, admittedly.
  45. 1 point
    I make the best trade I can make, no matter who I'm making it with... division or not. If I get even a small bit more from the division rival than outside the division, i'm taking that small bit more. Better is better.
  46. 1 point
    Don't be a nincompoop. I was giving that as an example of a trade which might be considered to help both teams. Period.
  47. 1 point
    Well, there *are* trades where both teams win. The Pacioretty trade might (might!) be such an example. In such a case, you strengthen your team, but also strengthen a divisional rival. I don't think that, when you make a trade, you're generally thinking in terms of fleecing the other team. It's nice if you can pull a Kordic for Courtnall, but that's pretty rare. The focus is on what your team needs, how to improve your club. Unlike Joe, I still wouldn't make trading within the division a "last resort." I would look at all the scenarios and pick the one that improves my team the most. Period. If it also helps a division rival, well, so what? The point is that I'm building the best possible team I can. Let the chips fall where they may after that.
  48. 1 point
    Again, they have to think that they are winning the trade. If both GMs are fully confident they are winning the trade, they shouldn't be afraid of who they trade with. Have some cajones.
  49. 1 point
    Yeah, I always agreed with this. You make a trade in order to make your team better. Period. The thought that a GM would pass on that opportunity just because he fears the PR blow-back if the trade doesn't work out suggests a guy who either lacks confidence in his judgement, or else prioritizes his own ego over winning.
  50. 1 point
    I don't deny that Holland is a good GM. In particular, no matter how ridiculously lucky he was with Zetterberg and Datsyuk, he oversaw an operation that was widely admired as a class act and a paragon of capable administering. Being a GM is about more than hockey moves. It's also about establishing organizational practices and organizational culture. Remember Bob Gainey? His hockey moves were hit and miss, but his leadership probably did more than anything else to re-establish the Habs as a respected organization off the ice as well as on. I think Holland will do that for EDM, ending the circus there and make the Oilers a well--run operation from top to bottom. But I am not as confident that his hockey moves as such will be markedly better than those of the average GM. Luck is luck; it tends to run out. There probably aren't more ridiculously fortunate Zetterberg-type strikes in his future.