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As weak as this roster is, I'm still happy hockey is back That little thrill never goes away.

Such hyperbole. We have 15,000 wingers.

We also have 17,000 wingers.

We should put the finns together on a line see how they do. Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Armia Could be interesting to see them play together.

Even if Galy clocks in at 50-60 points, that still likely makes him more valuable than Domi, due to positional considerations. Only the Montreal Canadiens could be stupid enough to trade a top-6 C when they quite literally do not have a single legitimate NHL top-6 C on their roster.

15,001 now with Joel Ward at camp.

Today's rosters:

Byron is a 29 year old forward on a cheap deal. He should be traded for the exact same reasons that Pacioretty is traded. His game relies on speed, and he will likely want a good raise on an extension. By the time this team is ready to compete, he will not have the same speed he has now. I love the guy, but Get what you can, while you can for him.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/canadiens-weber-confident-can-good-not-stronger-healthy/ Captain Weber

I don't disagree that Karlsson would have filled a huge need but what you're proposing is a lot easier said than done. Edmonton isn't swimming in young assets to deal which is what Ottawa would have coveted. They'd want to add Karlsson to their existing core which means Nugent-Hopkins and Klefbom realistically would probably be off the table to move even though that would have made the money factor a bit easier. That would leave enticing a taker for Lucic. The problem is, what would they be offering? San Jose dealt one guaranteed first and encumbered two more with the conditions, all by 2022. Let's assume Edmonton would have had to do the same. Unloading Lucic's contract without taking any money back would cost multiple firsts. Because they've dealt/encumbered 2019, 2021, and either 2020/2022 for Karlsson, that means the best picks that the Oilers could offer is the remaining 2020/2022 one and 2023. If I'm a team like the Habs, I'm not waiting five years to get a draft pick that might be three or more years away from actually playing. I don't think there's a team out there that would. Maybe sub in Yamamoto for one of the picks but even then, if you're Edmonton, that's as many as five potential firsts (plus whatever prospects/players they'd have lost for Karlsson as well) for a rental. That doesn't seem like a strong move to make for them, no matter how much Karlsson would have helped.

No. Domi is worth less than galchenyuk. I don’t need to drive a fiat to know it’s not as good as a Alfa Romeo Guilia Quadrifoglio. i wouldn’t trade a corvette for an impala either.

I'm aware that this draft is deeper. I'm also aware that teams aren't going to be afraid to move a 2nd round pick if they get someone that they think can make an impact for them and teams have moved 2nd rounders in deep drafts for capable rental players before... If Byron's playing at a 20-goal pace, there are going to be a lot of teams interested in him. They're not all going to hold firm at a 3rd rounder or bust. If Bergevin plays his cards right, someone will up the ante to Montreal's benefit. Now, if Byron reverts back to his performance in Calgary, then I agree, a 2nd would be unrealistic. But if he plays like he has, they should get a 2nd for him, deep draft or not. And if every GM is so terrified of moving a 2019 2nd (even though seven have already been dealt or encumbered), there's always 2020.

Byron's coming off back-to-back 20-goal seasons and is cheap. Michael Grabner, a similar player to him, fetched a 2nd and a decent prospect at the trade deadline. Assuming Byron has a similar year, they should be able to get a 2nd for him, especially from cap-strapped teams who want to add but don't have much cap room; he'd automatically be a top target for those squads.

I like the return better than what we got for Subban

MB and Dorion are doing all they can to make the west stronger - while sinking into a deeper abyss themselves. MB: sends Pacs to the knights, Galchenyuk to the desert dogs, Subban to the preds, while Dorion in one trade made the Avs and Preds stronger last year, allowed the sharks to get an extra/better pick in the Hoffman deal and than makes another deal to make the sharks defence arguably better, or as good as the preds.

I'm just saying it hasn't been as bad as when Bergevin was trying to contend. When it was clear the 17-18 season was a bust Bergevin was angry and then he looked dejected and that's been his natural reaction since. The Galchenyuk trade was still dumb and we haven't seen enough guys replaced from Marc's golf crew but I don't feel the same as when Marc was the clear driver. It isn't an endorsement. Just an observation. I think Geoff wants to be hands on so when he picks a future GM he actually knows what the job involves and won't leave the next candidates to Bergevin and McGuire. Or maybe he's going to be control hungry and be like Richard Peddie and JFJ. I don't know, but the damage control process has been fine for the most part. Much better than I thought it would be. As for liking the Pacioretty trade I'll just pop this question: what was the last time at the trade deadline a team got back a player with the ceiling of Suzuki and drafted as low as he was?

Again it depends on the draft and how deep it is. Last years draft was weak. This year is a better draft year, gm's aren't going to give up a 1st,2nd or 3rd round pick that easy.

Or move them to Quebec. I’d rather see the next nordiques start out with this sorry bunch than a Vegas type expansion team.

Our history of break ups with black players isnt that great.?

With the whole Montreal - thou shall have a French GM and coach rule, it’s ironic because that the two worst GM’s are French. Maybe a reason to rethink this rule?

If you’re the oilers and if you’re not in his no trade list, you make the deal and have until the start of the season to get under the cap. Move nugent Hopkins - doesn’t have to be to the Sens- though they could also use him. I like klefboms contract, but move him if need be. Offer a team with room (Montreal?) high picks and prospects to take on some of the idiot deals he signed like that orangutan Lucic. Karlsson would have filled their biggest needs. This is like MB doing squat to fill the hole at centre.