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It looks like Jokiharju is not going to crack the Chicago D-heavy lineup and could be available for trade if we can offer the Blackhawks something they need. A first-round pick two years ago, he has at least top-four potential a few years from now — as Weber and Petry age.

I still think it best to go the NCAA route for at least one year, look at Poehling now after waiting couple years, being in weight room twice a day and practising more than playing. Let the kid adjust to playing vs older bigger faster competition first.

He was an elite defensive forward, the best of his time. People who did not see Carbo play probably cannot appreciate the way in which he really could control a game; at his peak he was just as impactful in doing this from a defensive perspective as a guy like Ovechkin might be from an offensive POV. A fully deserving member of the HoF in my opinion. On a side note, I'm one of those dinosaurs who thinks it's unfortunate that the Selke now routinely goes to high-scoring two-way forwards. The award was designed for Bob Gainey, the prototypical defensive specialist. Carbo was Gainey's truest successor.

Tatar plus a first-rounder? I don't think that should be necessary for what is (to them) a third-pair defenceman. A late-round pick, or Hudon, as a sweetener could work.

Not even in same ballpark on offense. Five 20 g seasons out of 19 seasons, in the highest scoring era of hockey, when even a monkey could score 20 (e.g. Nilan) And how did the Habs do vs Oilers-Pitt, they regularly got lit up by 99 & 66, is why the Habs only won once in the 80s and that was a very unexpected win due to play of a real hall of famer in Roy, not Carbonneau. And in 92-93 he had a 17point season and 3g in playoffs, so again he wasnt key in that cup win. Was he a solid hard working defensive forward and above average NHLer, for sure. H0F calibre, just dont see it. (Also maybe why almost no one has even mentioned him being inducted, 2 or 3 other replies to this thread.)