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  1. Trudeau apologized, showed regret, and promised he'd learned since then and will continue to learn. His actions have backed up those words. Cherry refused to apologize, didn't acknowledge the problem, and is loudly steadfast about his unwillingness to learn or grow. Proudly ignorant of his own damage, or worse: just plain proud of his own damage. If Trudeau's response to being called out for black and brown face pics was, "Nothing wrong with it, happy I did it, everyone is overreacting" then he wouldn't have a job now either. The people who are equating the Trudeau and Cherry situations while not recognizing that regret and intent to improve are important aspects of being forgiven... man, I dunno... get help. If Cherry had showed up with Ron on Hometown Hockey and said, "I'm sorry for what I said, I shouldn't have singled out anyone. I believe all Canadians should show more support for our veterans, which is a cause that is very near to my heart, and I'll be better at wording that from now on" then this would have died by Saturday, and those of us who dislike Cherry on the airwaves would have to go back to the other hundreds of reasons why he should have been fired a long time ago.
    3 points
  2. Lol so it's the people uncomfortable with racism and xenophobia who have the problem, not the people who are racist and xenophobic? Just because you live in a bubble and don't have these sorts of problems to deal with doesn't mean they don't exist for other people. You just sound like an ignorant old curmudgeon who is annoyed that he had to consider someone else's viewpoint for 15 seconds.
    2 points
  3. Cultural appropriation was definitely not as big as a concern back in the days than it is nowadays. Everyone was doing it for Halloween. All kind of costumes : Indigenous people, black/brown characters or music/movies stars, Hitler, etc. Halloween was free for all, nobody cared. You can't expect the same reaction today when it comes to actions or statements that were made in 2019, in an era where cultural appropriation as been elevated pretty high in terms of disrespect towards individuals or peoples. Finding out in 2019 that some words were spoken or some actions were made in 1999 is far less controversial than words or actions commited IN 2019. That's the difference.
    2 points
  4. Happy to see Kulak in the lineup again for tonight.
    2 points
  5. Lets be clear on what cherry said. Those who are saying he got fired for "you people" are being disingenious. He said, "You people who come here, you love our milk and honey." There is no doubt who he meant... and that was immigrants. Lets also not pretend that this is the first time Cherry has shown xenophobic, bigoted, or misogynistic views on the air. The history is long. This is the straw that broke the camels back. Cherry was also given the opportunity to apologize. He refuses to. He has in fact doubled down saying i know what i said and i stand by it. As for the Trudeau comparison. One was 20 years ago. It is also something he has apologized for. Hes also shown in his actions in government to be supportive of diversity. That doesnt seem to compare to someone doing something today, who refuses to apologize and doesnt understand why its wrong, and who has a long history of these types of comments that isnt going away.
    2 points
  6. Your post sums up my feelings on the matter. The leftist cancel culture sickens me. That feeling is compounded when you factor in the double standard that is applied: when a leftist does something offensive, it's always brushed under the rug or at least minimized by the media and goes unpunished. A conservative does something equal or lesser, and it's an onslaught of false moral outrage and an attempt to destroy. Trudeau blackface: no big deal. Don Cherry states something he observed that doesn't mesh well with the narrative the left wants out there: destroy him. For the record, I'm not saying I want leftists torn down either...I'm against ubersensitive PC snowflake cancel culture equally across the board.
    2 points
  7. 6-8-3 record Forwards Defence/Goalie Alexandre Texier - Pierre-Luc Dubois - Cam Atkinson Gustav Nyquist - Alexander Wennberg - Oliver Bjorkstrand Sonny Milano - Boone Jenner - Josh Anderson Eric Robinson - Riley Nash - Emil Bemstrom Zach Werenski - Seth Jones Vladislav Gavrikov - David Savard Scott Harrington - Dean Kukan Elvis Merzlikins (conf.) Scratches Adam Clendening, Nick Foligno (susp.), Kole Sherwood Injuries Brandon Dubinsky, Ryan Murray, Markus Nutivaara 9-5-3 record Forwards Defence/Goalie Jonathan Drouin - Phillip Danault - Brendan Gallagher Paul Byron - Max Domi - Joel Armia Tomas Tatar - Nick Suzuki - Artturi Lehkonen Ryan Poehling - Nate Thompson - Nick Cousins Victor Mete - Shea Weber Ben Chiarot - Jeff Petry Brett Kulak - Cale Fleury Carey Price (proj.) Scratches Christian Folin, Mike Reilly, Jordan Weal Injuries Jesperi Kotkaniemi Puck Drop National TV Regional TV Radio 7:00 PM EST N/A TSN 2, RDS, FS-O TSN 690 | FM 98.5
    1 point
  8. "I believe others can treat you improperly without any repercussions, and if you voice your displeasure you're problematic." "I don't need to actually consider a side of the story that challenges my preconceived notions." "Life is good when I don't need compassion for other people's strife." "I judge groups that challenge me by their worst persons because it's easy and makes me feel better for not growing." "Taking in information from many sources is a "bubble," ignoring others is what makes you truly free." "Don't shine a light on ignorance and hate, and don't fight for what you believe in. Just ignore it and hope it will eventually go away while they get the spotlight." and finally: "You being fed up with my uncaring attitude is the only thing I'll latch on to from this experience so I can continue to dismiss anyone who dares to question my world view." - a dramatic reenactment by We, the Privileged Many
    1 point
  9. Thats fine. He could easily have said, everyone needs to buy a poppy. That would have been fine. he wouldnt' have gotten any flack for that. It was blaming immigrants as the people who don't buy poppies and don't respect veterans but want the canadian way of life that was the problem. He got into hateful us against them ideology. There also is the question, how does he know the people who aren't wearing poppies are people who "come here"... that they are immigrants.... is he checking their passports? The answer of course is that he doesn't know, he is assuming based on their appearance, accent or color of skin. There are major problems with those assumptions.
    1 point
  10. He's been consistently xenophobic in the past. In the 80s he was already ranting about European hockey players. And in this latest (final) incident he specifically called out immigrants for (paraphrasing) coming here for milk and honey and not respecting the contributions of the veterans. He could have made a powerful message about the need for everyone to recognize and remember the supreme sacrifice of the war dead, but he chose instead to blame the immigrants.
    1 point
  11. It seems as though anyone who is joyous about the Don Cherry firing already wanted him gone long ago. I haven’t seen a comment on here from those who are actually content which addresses the actual comments he made. I was fairly indifferent in that I watched Coach’s Corner a lot over the years, but would not go out of my way to watch it any more often than a regular Saturday night second intermission. With that being said, I don’t think what he said was intended to be overly offensive and even those who say that he could have chosen his words better are mostly saying so in order to not seem politically incorrect. From what I remember as a child, remembrance, or armistice day, was religiously engrained into our system as an important day to celebrate. Those who weren’t born here weren’t raised with that same mentality. While it is one hundred percent true that native Canadians also forgo wearing poppies, it’s only natural that a national celebration wouldn’t be as celebrated by those who weren’t born in the nation. I think Don Cherry was only encouraging those who weren’t brought up with that nature to adopt it and I have real life examples that would seem to confirm that it’s actually true that wearing a poppy wouldn’t even occur to some who weren’t born here. There’s nothing “wrong” with it or anything accusatory, it’s just a reality. I love diversity and constantly defend against racism. This wasn’t that.
    1 point
  12. With the way that Sportsnet cut people en masse over the offseason, they won't be hiring anyone for that spot - it would cost too much. (Plus, they're probably still paying Cherry's contract.) I wouldn't be surprised if Kelly Hrudey's second intermission segment after Headlines goes to there for now and then they'll spend more time after Headlines to shill for the next Hometown Hokey. Brian Burke, not Sean Burke.
    1 point
  13. The boom was for the idiotic comment that Poile matched the offer.knowing there would be a recapture. turris has been playing better this and even Friedman said that he thinks turris will be moved if he is producing. I think we should trade Weber because he is going to be on the decline if and when. Our kids are ready and we actually ever have a potential contender. I’d try moving him to a team like Edmonton, but yes given the contracts, I’d rather have Subban. and as far as a poll who cares, most were happy with the Weber trade and the preds went to the finals and Subban was a Norris contender. Like is said earlier id happily take 4 years of Subban than keep Weber past 40.
    1 point
  14. I get the sense that this discussion is priming people to argue that if MB takes 20 years before building a contender, that's OK. No, it isn't. Beyond that: the defence of MB is currently based on our prospect pool and the belief that in 3-4 years it will elevate the team to the top 1/4 of the league, an elite team and reliable contender. I think Habs29 is right to point out that in this time frame Weber, Petry, and possibly Price will likely be close to being done, so the structural problem remains. But even discounting that problem, my personal take on it is that I have heard this song and dance about everything being hunky-dory in 3-4 years too many times to uncritically believe it this time. If it works out, then great, MB will have delivered the goods. Until it does work out, however, MB remains a GM who has accomplished dick-all in my book.
    1 point
  15. 1. Any GM in an expansion market, already having lost Suter would have matched. What was important was the no trade protection. And if you had a half a brain even you would have known he matched before the cap recapture penalty was put in place. It’s bergevin who was dumb enough to trade for a player with a cap recapture penalty- because montreal is now knowingly on the hook for the cap recapture penalty - a portion of which Poile was smart to dump. BOOM. To your first stupid point. 2. Nashville had 4 guys that could be on the first pair on any team - including Montreal, had Josi to resign - which is now done and other young promising dmen. Poile also recognized that he needed a top centre for a chance a t the cup because turris wasn’t getting the job done and was untraceable (he has been better this year and is actually contributing, but now can be moved if needed. Poile made a move from a position of strength to fill a need to be a true contender. MB on the other hand made the Drouin deal by creating a Grand Canyon wiz while on our left D. It was again MB who signed Subban to that stupid contract by insisting on a bridge deal, only to have him win the norris. He was also a top three for the Norris twice after signing the contract - how many times was Weber a top 3 contender?? For what NJ paid for Subban, our unused cap space and Swiss cheese ad, I would have picked him up in a heartbeat. And yes I’d rather have the 3 or 4 years on Subban’s contract than the 7 or 8 on Weber’s. 3. Why are other teams constantly able to trade for a top centre, or sign one (Poile managed to do both multiple times). while Man constantly whines how hard it is. Why didn’t duschane want to come to Montreal - one reason was a MUCH better guarantee of being in the playoffs and a chance at the cup. MB even. ####ed up the offer sheet by not offering more money to Aho which would have given the Canes more draft picks and made them think harder about taking the picks. Every friggin analyst said IMMEDIATELY that there was no way that the canes wouldn’t match such a low offer sheet with so few picks going back and that MB did the canes work by negotiating Aho’s contract for them.
    1 point
  16. So much to dissect from the original post but I don't have all day so I focused on one of my favorite topics. 1. Weber's "stupid cap hit length salary" Poile is the one that matched the offer sheet. And Nashville is going to be decimated in cap recapture if Weber retires early. 2. Trades for Subban when they had a stacked defense already, but trades him because of the same stacked defense? How "stupid" is Subbans contract that he had to salary dump him and the only team that would take it without salary retention was NJ? Would you trade Shea Weber for Subban right now? 3. Bergevin "failed" to sign Duchene? You say that as if Mark Bergevin single handedly is the reason why Matt Duchene is in Nashville. Like Duchene is picking between GMs and was so wooed by David Poile the man that he made a decision for himself and his family to go with Poile. Tell us how MB could have sealed the deal. Change the income tax in Quebec? How about creating a warmer weather system? Buy some guitars for the entire city so they can learn country music?
    1 point
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