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  1. 8 points
    I've noticed over the last week or so that certain posters are getting downvoted simply for who they are and not for the content of their post. This stops now. I've finally figured out how to make it so that the moderators can see who is up/downvoting posts so we can start to keep tabs on who the culprits are. I won't name names publicly (you know who you are) but to those who are doing so, be advised that if it continues, there will be suspensions forthcoming. This will be the only warning.
  2. 6 points
    Well... good thing I'm already at a bar.
  3. 6 points
    What kind of analysis is this? Our offense is defunct for multiple reasons, playmakers being the least of our concerns. What is more troublesome are how skewed we are, positionally, up front, we got Wingers trying to be Centers, Centers trying to be Wingers. We lack a legitimate 1C, probably even a 2C but lets worry about one issue at a time up there. Then we have a D core that is carried by 2 guys, both playing from the same side, also happen to be the only 2 capable of producing points on any kind of regular basis. We have no one on the Left side capable of eating minutes while driving some offense on a consistent basis for the forwards. Those are the real issues plaguing this offense, you have to be properly setup at the forward and defense position before you can even get into what style of players you need to compliment each other better and further upgrade that offense. You need a real 1C, you need a real top 6 with maybe only 1 guy out of the 6 being a bubble guy, the rest have to be hands down top 6 guys. You need at least 3 of your 6 Dmen to be very good all around players who are capable of playing big minutes, solid in their own zone, while contributing to team offense, whether on the PP or 5 on 5. We are obviously not there yet, and need to get there before we can even consider talking about how many natural goal scorers, playmakers, or net drivers we are lacking to make it better.
  4. 6 points
    Can we fly Joe Lassiter and his Girl to the lottery?
  5. 6 points
    I usually make these but this beauty came from reddit
  6. 6 points
    Didn't see a thread, never made one before and I don't know what I'm doing! Feel free to add stuff..rosters...etc...
  7. 6 points
    This strategic mastermind, this managerial wizard, gave us all a look behind the gilded curtain of his overpowering visionary acumen at the presser yesterday: "The goal is to get younger, faster with character, and that’s what we’re going to try to do moving forward...We’re going young with speed and character." - Marc Bergevin These penetrating words, which so brilliantly cut through to the nub of the matter and demonstrate a far-seeing, prophetic insight into the future direction of the game well beyond that of his colleagues - most of whom are, of course, have yet to make the realization that MB has arrived at in year six of his rebuild, i.e., the pressing need for youth and speed - come from the same Napoleonic mind that brought you -Shea Weber -Karl Alzner -Jamie Benn -Dwight King -Steve Ott All players who made the team inestimably younger and faster. One can only be uplifted by this track record and the new revelation of how consistently our GM has built upon this clear and inspiring vision of the Montreal Canadiens. No doubt, given another decade, he will come to the realization that the league has legalized the forward pass! Meanwhile, here's a sneak peak at next year's edition of your Montreal Canadiens:
  8. 6 points
  9. 6 points
    The team needs a better center for the 4th line? I wonder if Bergevin is up to the task.... Cut to Habs' hockey ops meeting Julien - "Marc, I think it's pretty clear that acquiring a top 6 centre would really benefit the team." Bergevin - "uh huh..." *starts looking at custom suits online* *Timmins does pushups while muttering about Galchenyuk* Muller - "Or uh, maybe a puck moving defenseman who can play 25 minutes a night...?" Bergevin - "zzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzz" *Timmins does deadlifts and sneezes, "SERgachev! Oh, excuse me." Daigneault - "a bettar 4th line center wud be gud!!!1!!" Julien and Muller - "JJ! NO!!" Bergevin snaps awake, twinkle in his eye - "Now we're talking! Scott, who did I help draft in Chicago that can play center on our 4th line?" Mellanby - "Um... Byron Froese, sir." Bergevin - "Tabernac! This is as good as we get, guys! Nothing more to do for this team!" *Muller stares at nothing. Mellanby thinks he should suit up for a tryout. Julien caresses his locket of Brad Marchand. Timmins does burpees in the corner. Daigneault writes in crayon.* fin
  10. 6 points
    Look, this is a very level-headed and logical approach to the situation, but we have a very strong "#### Lefebvre" policy here and I have to strongly suggest you adhere to it.
  11. 5 points
    "Attitude" is not helped when a team sees its management throwing its most distinguished veteran on the scrap heap even though he can still play, and then letting a blood-and-guts power forward who drives the team's offence walk as a UFA - and then proceeds to blame the players for assembling a transparently inadequate roster. The main attitude adjustment has to occur in the front office. I would love to see PK Subban hoisting Lord Stanley's mug and rubbing it in the face of all those constipated old boys and double-standard subliminal racists who declared him a 'problem' for committing the heinous sin of having a personality.
  12. 5 points
    MONTOYA WATCH!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 more game with 30 minutes played to go. Edmonton plays 2 more back-to-backs, this weekend and next. I don't know why I'm this jacked to move up from ~131 to ~100 in the draft, but #### YEAH, 1 MORE GAME, LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  13. 5 points
    Take Morrow out and put Marc Bergevin in instead. Force him to play all 60 minutes, or at least make him responsible for 'stopping' PK Subban. That should be suitable punishment.
  14. 5 points
    Top three, easily.
  15. 5 points
    Man. All you have to do is concede that the original statement about building a new core every 5 years, was not what you were trying to get across, and this argument ends. Looks to me like you are both inferring the same thing, but picking out points to argue for the sake of it.
  16. 5 points
    Wait... am I being traded too? Guys, come on, I'm trying hard out here, I'm just in a bit of a rough patch. Put me on a line with DON and The Chicoutimi Cucumber and I swear my posts will improve.
  17. 5 points
    dlbalr DON Lovett Commandant Aaaaaand, my personal favourite... Habs29
  18. 4 points
    Our Biggest, Most Comprehensive Draft Review Ever http://lastwordonhockey.com/2018/06/24/2018-nhl-draft-grades/
  19. 4 points
    Lol! We should abreviate it to: SAC Easier to type.
  20. 4 points
    Well, exactly. The issue is not that Domi utterly sucks or is unlikable. That's a red herring. Nor is it that Galchenyuk was some untouchable superman. That's also a red herring. It's that the trade accomplished nothing in terms of addressing actual roster holes and does not represent an upgrade even at the LW position. As with the Weber deal, the absolute best that can be said for it - the absolute most optimistic interpretation - is that it's a lateral move. In fact this is what the tiny number of defenders of the trade are saying. "Domi has similar PPG totals." As if this is a defence of the trade. So great, best case scenario, we traded a second-line LW for another second-line LW. WHY? Meanwhile, anyone with a brain can see that Galchenyuk has the higher ceiling. So we are taking most of the risk in this deal because we surrendered the players who has 30-goal, 70+ point potential...and can play C to boot. The rhetorical strategies of Bergevin and his supine cheerleaders are well-worn and all too familiar: 1. "Player X is gone, stop complaining and celebrate that we have Player Y!" In other words, suspend all critical thought about whether X is better than Y. 2. The player we traded away had all kinds of intangible negatives we don't know about. This makes the player we got back "better" on some sort of metaphysical level even though he is not actually better on the ice. 3. The players we got back is "about as good" as the player we traded, so the trade is Jim Dandy, even though it in no way makes the team better, which is the whole point of making a trade. One new wrinkle is the move whereby Domi's struggles are excused because of the bad Arizona environment, while Galchenyuk's struggles are entirely his own fault, even though the Habs have a track record of being unable to work with talented young players and turning them into a "problem" that has to be "solved" (Subban). This line of argument also ignores that the Habs had about the same record as "basket case" Arizona If I wanted to defend the trade, I'd say this: Domi is more of a playmaker than Galy. If the team needs a playmaker more than it needs a goalscorer, that's at least some sort of way to justify the move. Just don't give me this crap about "intangibles" or that we're supposed to love everything the Habs do no matter how stupid it is.
  21. 4 points
    I don't understand what all the fire and fury about this article is folks, sounds like some of you are still letting yourselves get sucked into the quick sand of negativity for the most nonsensical reasons, bordering on irrational frustration. I get it, he has done some truly foolish moves, especially in the last 2 years, but the kicker is, everyone, including him, is capable of redemption. Everyone can get their asses handed to them, their mistakes pointed out, and a general slap in the face style wake up call for one reason or another and get their acts together afterwards. Remaining positive, and judging the moves that come next as they come is the key to not getting wrapped up in this irrational blanket of negativity. Lets dissect this interview and its answers a little bit, and figure out what some of you got your panties in a bunch about. Because to me, objectively speaking, this is some of the most positive feedback from Bergevin I've heard all year. 1. He claims we had some really good seasons, we have finished 1st, 3rd, and 6th in the league during his time, pretty safe to call those really good seasons. 2. He claims we had 1 really good playoff, we went to the Conference Final once during his time, pretty safe to call that a really good playoff. 3. He claims to not be interested in trading the 3rd pick, that it will help improve this team in the long term. He is absolutely correct, he could try some "Save my Ass" trade that doesn't help this team long term, but instead is aware and willing to make the right hockey decision, regardless of his fate. 4. He claims there is a need at Center, and says Drouin could fill the role if needed, it is pretty clear, Drouin as a top Center is not his 1st choice. He rather add a Center, but if the plans to get one backfire on him this offseason, he is ready and willing to let Drouin continue to grow at Center. He is saying without saying, I need a Center, I am going to try and get one, but I am willing to use Drouin again, in case the league thinks they can hose me for a center just because it may look like a dire need. He is trying to leave himself a bit of leverage for any potential acquisition, that he is in need, but not admitting a dire need publicly. He is also trying to make sure Drouin doesn't feel as though he failed, and lack confidence, so he can come into next season without that monkey on his back, regardless where he will play. 5. Pointed out the obvious, some of our usually awesome players had very under the norm seasons, Pacioretty and Price come to mind. Our season would not have played out the way it did if Price is his .924 SV% self, if Pacioretty is his 30 something goal scoring self, if Weber was there for most of the season. These are all just facts, and not simply excuses, the team has its holes and fair share of needs, but when you couple that with 3 elite players either missing or playing like they're missing, its a disaster. 6. He actually mentions he Believes the league has certainly shifted towards tons of speed, and again he is bang on, it has shifted towards speed majorly. If he is now finally thinking that, then perhaps we are done with the Dwight King, Steve Ott, Karl Alzner type of acquisitions. If he evaluates any player he goes after going forward, using speed as one of his main criteria, because he believes speed is the way of the league now, we could assume at the very least, he is done acquiring slow pokes now. So like I said, it is either all accurate statements, or a sign that his head is in the right place as far as how to approach the draft, what his needs are on the roster, and what qualities those targets need to have to fit in today's NHL and make your team better because of it. Simply put, he has his priorities straight, his targets are clear, and he sounds like he knows what kind of NHL game is currently being played. So to me, after the debacle that was last summer, that is all Positive Positive Positive. So I don't get what all the fuss is about.
  22. 4 points
    https://awinninghabit.com/2018/04/23/montreal-canadiens-news-congratulations-khl-andrei-markov-2018-gagarin-cup/ Andrei Markov with Ak Bars Kazan wins the championship. All reports shows he logged lot of minutes and key to the underdogs winning. attitude hey? MB was dead wrong here, you do not let Markov and his loyalty and wanting to remain in Montreal go. The exact attitude that is required to continue the Legacy of what is left of this team. Now how ironic if both these defencemen go on to win their respective championship titles ( PK Subban ) Bergevin,..now where is the attitude adjustment ? Is it the team or IS IT YOU MB? Well down Marc and bringing a once storied and class Team , now to its current state. With you at the helm, this team will sink further to an abyss that will take a decades to correct! Will we see this team win again for decades? Hmmm Go on and keep wearing your fancy suits and be proud MB what you have done, or NOT done!! ........
  23. 4 points
    We Ok lets look at the Entire body of work: 2012 off-season. His first big free agent move was overpaying and wasting cap space on Brandon Prust. At the same time he made this move, he was overpaying Travis Moen, a contract he'd later have to dump, taking back the decrepit body of Sergei Gonchar just to get rid of him. 2013 off-season The next year, he took Michael McCarron in the first round, and Connor Crisp in the third round. Both for their character. More talented players like Anthony Duclair, and Pavel Buchnevich were available in the third round but had character concerns. He then signed Douglas Murray and George Parros in the off-season. He allowed Michael Ryder to walk, instead signing Daniel Briere. Later Briere was shipped out and Parenteau brought in. At the 2015 deadline Defense was improved with Petry. We needed more scoring.. what did we add for forwards... character in Torrey Mitchell, Bryan Flynn, and Devante Smith-Pelley 2015 off-season after we failed to score enough goals. We brought in Fleischmann and Semin instead of you know... talent. 2016 we flamed out. Subban was traded for Weber We overpaid for Andrew Shaw We signed Radulov, but only one year cause character was a question At the deadline when we needed scoring, we instead got Martinsen, Ott, Nolan, Benn. 2017 we let markov and radulov walk we grabbed character in Alzner. There are a shit ton of moves that can be traced back to ####ing character.
  24. 4 points
    - It's not about crippling. I've seen teams make bad trades and still be successful. Boston traded Joe Thornton for pretty much nothing and won a Cup five years later. Boston then traded Seguin in a bad trade and they are fine right now. Washington is in the ECF despite the Erat for Forsberg trade and signing Brooks Orpik to a dumb contract. You can even make good moves and not find success in it, such as Radulov and Bishop to Dallas and when the Islanders acquired Vanek. - "Perhaps there was a toxic work environment" is BS. I'm sorry. Chicago had LOCKER ROOM FIGHTS the last time they won the Stanley Cup with rumours of players sleeping with each others wives. Raanta got ostracized by the organization for talking about it. The Canadiens players in the 70s didn't like Scotty Bowman one bit and often ignored him or dogged it at practice just to rile him up. The idea that one player was so bad everyone had to get rid of him, regardless of his talent, it's a fabrication. - When Subban got traded to Nashville, Rinne and Hartnell were worried based on his reputation. Rinne said in Players Tribune that Subban was extremely positive and kept the locker room in good spirits after losses. Basically everything that was said to be Bergevin's problem (players not being angry after a loss) with the locker, was considered a positive in Nashville. So if anything was toxic, it was Bergevin's viewpoint. - Here's what you miss. Montreal had an aging LD puck mover (Markov), a failing LD puck mover (Beaulieu), an overpaid LD defensive D-Man (Emelin), a franchise RD puck mover, (Subban) and second pair RD puck mover (Petry). The team needed to find a new LD puck mover and get rid of the overpaid defensive LD. They got rid of the failing guy, but then traded the franchise RD puck mover for a more defensive minded, former franchise RD PP Specialist (Weber), which meant the organization now lacked two puck movers. Then they let the aging LD puck mover walk and let the overpaid guy get picked up, but replaced them with an overrated trash fire (Benn) and an overpaid broken LD (Alzner). They signed another aging LD puck mover thinking he could do the job (Streit) and he didn't even make it to the season. So now the organization lacked puck movement and puck possession. This isn't Weber's fault, but Weber isn't the kind of player Subban is. He doesn't move the puck like he does. Meaning even though Weber does other things well, the organization is now in need for that. And instead of filling that need, Bergevin went the other way. And that's why the D is now one of the worst in the league. So Weber didn't cripple the team, but it pushed the team philosophy in the wrong direction. It was a domino. The organization needed to add a Fowler type and didn't. Now it's praying the young D develop right and fill in spots while several spots are filled by trashfires. Weber isn't responsible for any of it but if they didn't trade Subban, the organization wouldn't be in such a desperation for puck movers and playing guys like Mete in a 1LD role as a freaking rookie.
  25. 4 points
    I can’t see anything fixed with this team until the biggest problem - it’s management is fixed. I had to hold off posting anything after yesterday’s ridiculous press conference. Is there anyone actually left that supports that moron MB???
  26. 4 points
    This is great news! The code has been cracked! We can continue to use Benn on first pair and expect excellent break out passes with a little better attitude. The exciting news is that we haven't seen the real Schlemko yet either so expect elite break out passes from him as well. MB was so close but just missed it with Character...What we really needed was ATTITUDE. What really gets me excited is Molson declaring how much better the food will be next year as well. The fans were upset this year and grumbled a lot and SURELY this was due to sub par hotdogs. I for one am excited about a better fan experience. We were 30th in scoring this year but that was due to Price having an off year. Price needs a better attitude and he will score more goals next season. We are on the right track, we shipped out the player with the worst attitude already. Subban hated to win and would never do what it takes to succeed. They were right about Galchenyuk too! that scrub does not have the proper attitude to play centre and he never will. May as well ship him out and laugh at the team that tries to play him there. Attitude has nothing to do with the coach however, I mean what do we expect CJ to do with such a sorry lot? I did not expect much from this presser but holy crap this was the worse one ever. MB is a delusional egomaniac and Molson is a buffoon for continuing to believe in him. Bring on the new batch of bottom pairing Dmen and bottom six forwards. This is a farce and I truly can't believe what has happened to our team. Everything lies on this years draft and hoping Tavares takes a big paycheck from us. God help us all
  27. 4 points
    Now that the Habs have officially been eliminated, time to pay off that 100 dollar Donation bet. You can make that out to the wounded warriors project. The link is below. support.woundedwarriorproject.org/Donate‎ You can make that in the name of Chris Hansen, If you need more info let me know, you can cut and paste the receipt on the thread. Thanks
  28. 4 points
    Good choice I will do before the end of the regular season...
  29. 4 points
    It's the matchup that CBC was surely hoping for when this game was originally scheduled - Curtis McElhinney vs Charlie Lindgren. No Carey Price. No Frederik Andersen. No Auston Matthews. No Max Pacioretty or Shea Weber. No Leo Komarov or Nikita Zaitsev. What a captivating matchup this will be...and if you don't think so, the word matchup will be drilled into our heads all night from Jim Hughson and Craig Simpson as without so many star players, you can be assured that matchups will be the forced narrative as Claude Julien and Mike Babcock try to outmatch the line matching. Puck drop is around 7:15 and if it's the usual anthem singer in Toronto for this one, you'll want to keep it on mute until then.
  30. 4 points
    I missed the first period. Tuning in at the second, I've had the joy of watching one of the worst, most hapless editions of the Montreal Canadiens I've ever seen. Garbage in every way, bad beyond all infinite possible dimensions of badness, just festering piles of uniformed sh*t spread all over the ice in disarray, like heaps left by some massive, diarrhetic hippopotamus. The architects of this miserable excuse for a hockey club should be banned from the city of Montreal on pain of summary execution.
  31. 4 points
    wtf Scherbak just got me pregnant.
  32. 4 points
    My bad. I meant to post that on my Arizona Coyotes forum.
  33. 4 points
    The Challenges a new GM would face in cleaning up Marc Bergevin's Mess. http://lastwordonhockey.com/2018/01/27/marc-bergevins-mess/
  34. 4 points
    We're a half hour before game time and still no GDT so here are some spinning logos at least... vs
  35. 4 points
    - Bridge contract for Subban - Keeping Desharnais as a top six centre - Thinking the team's problem against Ottawa was they needed to get tougher. - Skipping on Jagr due to a personal grudge. - Skipping on Robinson because he was impatient and wanted JJ Daigneault in an NHL position. - Hiring Therrien - Publicly congratulating Subban on negotiating a number a couple hundred thousand higher than what Bergevin was offering. - Going after Lecavalier and Briere hard - Signing Briere when there was already too many centres so Therrien played a veteran natural centre on the wing. - Letting Timmins draft Connor Crisp - Acquiring Vanek and being fine with Therrien dropping him down the lineup, making the trade pointless. - Needing to fill the 1RW spot, trading for Parenteau to make up for the Briere mistake. Therrien once again clearly doesn't like him. Has to be bought out. - Prioritizing a 2RD over a 2LD when it was clear the plan needed to be about who would one day replace Markov, and not using young players like Beaulieu and Tinordi (who couldn't make Therrien happy) to do it. - Fighting Subban tooth and nail on his new contract once again, this time publicly losing as everyone knew Molson had to step in. - No strategy set by the coach for Galchenyuk to be a top six centre. Keeps Plekanec, Desharnais, and Eller which meant Therrien never had to try Galchenyuk at centre if he didn't want to. Could have traded someone to force Therrien's hand but did not. - After the team's best season despite a second round exit for lack of scoring, Bergevin only signs Semin and Fleischmann. Still no decision on 2LD as Markov is getting older and as he does, the need turns into a 1LD. - Does nothing when his Hart trophy goalie goes down. Relies on a rookie and a career backup on his way out. James Reimer is available all season to any team. Eventually goes to San Jose at the deadline for peanuts. - Still won't trade a centre to make a spot for Galchenyuk. - Calls Subban a Hab for life when rumours break that Bergevin has been talking to teams about him. Threatens NHL action on the Canucks for talking openly about it. Talks more about how Gretzky was traded. Trades Subban the last day he can before the NMC is activated. - Chases Lucic, a left winger. Fails, so he tells remaining free agents he won't give them more than a one year deal. Perron says no. Radulov says yes but wants two years. Bergevin says one or none. Radulov signs. Habs for the fourth time acquire a top six RW with a temporary contract (Ryder, Vanek, Parenteau, Radulov) - Blames the bad season on himself so nobody will be fired. Then blames it on injuries. Defends Subban trade by saying there's things about Subban we don't know about. - Still has not filled the 2LD spot so Therrien plays Emelin with Weber. Eventually gives up and plays the old men together. - Galchenyuk once again moved off centre after proving himself because he came back too early from an injury. Eventually re-signs Galchenyuk after telling the world he won't be a centre. This season proves it, as pretty much everyone gets a shot except Galchenyuk. - After several failing seasons in the AHL as head coach, team allows Lefebvre to look for new work. Doesn't fill his spot, then when he fails, gives him his old job back. - Trades the one guy who could actually fill the 1LD spot for Drouin. Decides Drouin will be a centre. - Doesn't re-sign Radulov or Markov after take it or leave it offers. - Trades Pateryn for something his wife said, for a guy who goes on a hot streak despite a career proving he's nothing more than a third pair guy. Protects third pair guy in expansion draft. Brings him up as a potential first pair partner for Weber. He's in the top four currently playing worse than almost any defenceman in the league. There's more but I have run out of time and my finger is sore.
  36. 4 points
  37. 4 points
    Leave the guys wife out of it for crying out loud. That is one of the worst posts I have ever seen on this board. I am not a fan of Bergevin ads Habs GM either, but come on...
  38. 4 points
    First game alert!! Please win for this kid..
  39. 4 points
    But man. If he doesn't do this, are you going to angrily post next year about how he didn't do it?
  40. 4 points
    It's true, but this has a whiff of the John Leclair deal to me. Put a very talented young player in an "ideal situation" and he can blossom into a star-cum-superstar. I think the optimists may be looking at it the wrong way. Sergachev is 19 years old playing a position that generally takes guys three or four years to master at the NHL level. And he is already a top-4 defender. And you can say, 'well, he's on a powerhouse.' Sure. But an organization as strong as TB would not put a 19-year-old in its top 4 unless that kid forced his way into that position. In other words, Sergachev has earned a top-4 spot on the best team in the game. At 19 years old. That is MUCH more impressive than a 22-year-old Drouin producing mediocre numbers while artificially being gifted a #1C slot on a crap team. A solid case can be made that it looks as though we traded a future Norris-trophy-calibre defenceman for a run-of-the-mill top-3 FW who is not even a natural C. That would be an absolutely terrible trade.
  41. 4 points
    We have our disagreements, but the regulars (and irregulars!) on this site have become an integral part of my experience of Habs fandom. I'm sure I tick some of you off with my unrelenting critique of the current regime, so thanks for listening. And particular thanks to the editors, writers and moderators of HW - especially Brian, who is the glue guy holding it all together! HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
  42. 4 points
    If you think the problem is the players, the problem is who acquired the players: management. If you think the problem is the media, the problem is the people who care what they say: management. If you think the problem is drafting, the problem is the people who draft: management. If you think the problem is developing, the problem is who runs the development: management. If you think the problem is coaching, the problem is who hired the coaching staff: management. The only thing that isn't the problem of management is the person who allows management to run the way they run: ownership.
  43. 4 points
    I am just like the rest of you that bleed the Montreal color's. But its been hard to watch these guys play like ass night in and night out. So I am hoping all the good vibes that come from this topic can rub off on the team and bring them some much needed luck🍀 So only good vibes in here everyone.
  44. 4 points
    Ya, being a fan of Putin is downright psychotic. He's a terrible leader and an awful human being.
  45. 4 points
    BREAKING NEWS: Bergevin just gave a press conference to select journalists. Among the highlights: He's "always looking" to improve the Zamboni driving situation. But finding that elusive #1 Zamboni driver is "tough." Zamboni driving schools "aren't just giving them away," he explained. "I'll make a move if it makes the team better. But right now, if you look at the asking price - it's tough." On the ice surface situation, he said, "we're comfortable where we're at right now. You look at our leadership, with guys like Max and Weber and Carey, they don't need a full sheet of ice." Discussing the large turnover in the Zamboni-related staff this summer, Bergevin said that "you look at this league, if you want good ice, it takes leadership. The Zamboni guys we added this summer, they're character guys." He'd have liked to re-sign 80-year-old Zamboni mechanic AndreI Makharoonovic, he said, but "it didn't work out. We wish him the best as he fixes zambonis in Europe. But at the same time, it's exciting for other Zamboni mechanics in our organization." Bergevin said he understands that fans are frustrated that the ice at the Bell Centre is always great in October but melts the minute the playoffs begin. "We don't like to see our players skating on the concrete floor, any more than fans do," he said. "Mr. Molson doesn't like what it costs him in skate blades. But you know, to have ice in the playoffs, you need a little bit of luck. We do what we can to provide them with shovels and chemicals. You want to blame someone, blame me. Sometimes," he quickly added, shrugging, "it's up to the Zamboni drivers, too."
  46. 4 points
  47. 4 points
    got news for ya, aside from a few of the very elite teams, any team who sustains injuries to key players generally suffers. You think Tampa flops like they did without the key injuries they had? LA Kings? Florida? We ourselves got hit for a stretch there Galchenyuk, Shaw, Desharnais, Gallagher, Markov. Our ability to fight through those roster player losses was tested, all while we had a coach who was losing his room, and still we won a division. This team is more than a Drouin or a Galchenyuk away from disaster. It basically comes down to as long as Price is healthy, and Weber stays healthy, this team will have a chance to win more than it loses. Every team has the couple Achilles heel players, where if they go down it likely spells disaster for you. Ours is Price, we were reminded of that much not so long ago, and very likely Weber. Care to wonder how well L.A Does without Quick and Doughty in their lineup for a long stretch? How about Tampa without Stamkos and Hedman? What if Nasville lost Rinne and Josi for half a season? would they still be the team we saw in the playoffs? Maybe Washington would survive the loss of Ovechkin and Holtby? i'n sure they would still win the presidents trophy if they got hurt right? As you can see every team suffers from the same "Bubble wrap the key player" theory, because it is with them that your team becomes elite, it is through them that your team succeeds. Sometimes you guys put way too much energy into the doomsday theories to try and showcase how weak Our team is. You are so quick to forget if you place the same doomsday theory on 95% of the league, the results would be just as catastrophic. We spew feces and piss at management, the players, the choices, the trades, the signings, acting like this team barely stayed out of the Lottery pick, like it will likely be a lottery pick this coming season. Yet there we were, division champions, far from any lottery, a good team, a competitive team, but not quite a contender, something more than half the fan bases in this league did not have. But this is Montreal, and here the fickle minds erase all positives when you go out in the first round, erase all positives about trading for one of the best young talents in this league, because Radulov decided to walk. Here, you lose in the wrong round, and you might as well be a lottery pick, screw bad luck, or we deserved better, nope it is all bollocks, burn it all to the ground we have 29 holes in this roster and a Management that is completely wasted 24/7. Here you lose the wrong player and you might as well not even bother evaluating the one taking his place, won't ever be as good, not a good replacement, won't be as exciting. It god damn wears me out to be a fan of this team sometimes, not because of what I see on the ice, but because of what I see away from it, from our own fan base at times, the lack of better judgment, objectivity, and downright reason, is a very disheartening thing to see. Sorry...that concludes my rant, not pointing at anyone in particular with this statement just a generalization of our fan base in my view, and I am also not saying this Management is not without its faults, because it has some. I'm just saying the team doesn't suck, and the management doesn't screw everything up they touch or look at, when will we all start acting like it? When will we start acting like there is simply still more mountain to climb and to keep pushing forward? instead of like we are in the middle of an avalanche gasping for air?
  48. 4 points
    Of consequence In Drouin Hemsky Alzner Schlemko Out Emelin Beaulieu Radulov Sergachev King Maybe Markov Drouin > Radulov. He's younger with a higher ceiling. I'm sure the 58 points Radulov got last year will be something Drouing brings again. Hemsky > King. Easy here. Alzner >> Emelin, Huge upgrade Schlemko > Beaulieu. Markov is the piece that has to be replaced. We either bring him back or we have 6 million to spend in a trade. Sergachev is the big loss, but its a future loss and he wasn't on the team, so in comparing last year's team vs this year's team he's a non-entity. Of course, His loss hurts for future years as there is no d to replace him... but keep in mind the Drouin vs Radulov comparison. We didn't just replace one year of radulov, we got a 23 year old who will produce effectively for many years and has not hit his prime, so consider that in any "futures analysis". Overall the off-season comes down to that $6 million. Can they use it to bring Markov back or improve at that position. if they can, then Bergevin did well. If they can't, then he didnt.
  49. 4 points
    We we need to stop comparing Drouin and Radulov as if this was a trade. What really happened is we traded our best, and only blue chip prospect for Drouin. I'm fine with the trade itself though, even like it. However, we straight up lost Radulov for nothing. We lost a 1st line RW for nothing. That's what sucks. I agree that there is some whining, but there is no way to avoid the fact that the talent in the organization has been watered down with the loss of Radulov. Thats why losing Sergachev hurts more now. We lose him, and only move laterally. I agree with the above posts about the lack of direction. We went all in with the Weber trade. So what we needed to do was pony up and pay Radulov while we're in our 2-3 year window. We did not do that, and now I don't know where the team is headed.
  50. 4 points
    This is the Twitter account where this came from: https://twitter.com/MikeKellyNHL
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