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  1. 6 points
  2. 6 points
    And after staying up all night, the Beast is here. The hardest article to write all year (just cause the amount of time that is needed to put this thing into a coherent format). The Draft Grades https://lastwordonhockey.com/2019/06/23/2019-nhl-draft-grades-lwoh/
  3. 5 points
    I like the signing, salary is easy to work with, term is good. Brings punishing, physical play, as well as a good first pass and sound decisions in his own zone. Also has experience playing against top 6 opposition having played next to Big Buff. His career is also trending in the right direction, his responsibility and role has been growing, his numbers have been growing. All in all I like the player, I like the contract, and I like what he brings to the table. With that said, he is not an ideal candidate to play with Weber, they bring too many of the same elements to the table to be good complimentary pieces for each other. He is however, an ideal candidate for Petry, who could then go rogue and help the forwards more often, knowing he has a steady force holding down the fort behind him. This signing does improve the D, but it does not improve it in a significant way, and does not bring Weber an ideal partner. I see... Mete - Weber Chariot - Petry Kulak - Juulsen While it may be better than anything we could have put together last season, it is not a big enough leap forward to transform us into a team that can make some noise in the playoffs, much less a low key contender, which is disappointing. I am not disappointed with the player, he will have a positive impact on this D. I am not disappointed with an improvement, because it is one. I am disappointed with CURRENT situation, because a lot can change from now until training camp, but thus far, having the cap to fix some important holes and make quantum leap improvements to this roster, we only have decent improvements to show for so far. I will keep a measured and patient approach leading into training camp, but I think we can all agree this is a welcome step in the right direction towards improving the team, it is also not nearly enough.
  4. 5 points
    Another RHD? That's the wrong Seider
  5. 4 points
    When you have a forward group filled with young players who is going to be adding a guy who set a record for most goals ever at the usntdp and the iihf under 18s, the ohl playoff mvp, the qmjhl playoff scoring leader and Mem cup mvp, the wjc mvp, Not lines... just putting people into positions... Caufield - kk - suzuki Drouin - domi - gallagher Lehkonen- danault - ylonen Armia - Poehling - weal Plus long shot prospects evans, teasdale, ikonen, fonstad, mcshane, vejdemo, hillis .. gotta think at least one of that group comes through You can build a strong lineup out of that. Then the d is gonna add the second best whl d, the wjc best dman and more talent Romanov - juulsen Mete - brooks Kulak - fleury Harris Struble Plus weber in a leadership role will still be a decent d even if not a number one Price with the best college goalie. You have a strong group of players coming through. Let the habs keep building internally. I dont care what other teams do. Keep building that squad and you can get a contender out of it It doesnt have to be this year.
  6. 4 points
    I see lots of people demanding MB make more changes since he hasn't really improved the roster this much off-season. I'm confident MB is trying but I don't see a lot of good options. Signing Gardiner to a 3 or 4 year deal would be great but it seems clear that either Gardiner is too injured or that he is too wedded to Toronto or insisting on a long term deal. I don't want to overpay him just so we can say we improved this off-season. I'd rather go through another season like last year and wait for the kids to improve. I think the team is on a good track for the first time in many years. The best option might be to wait and plan to push for the cup in 2 or 3 years. We have the prospect pool and the cap space for this to be a viable approach. I also think that MB might make some deals in the next month with one (or more) or the teams struggling to deal with the cap.
  7. 4 points
    I fear I might be at risk of moaning Cole Caufield's stat line during sex.
  8. 4 points
    Seems like all of this should be moved to the Fire Bergevin thread. Every time the Rumour thread is bumped, I expect something interesting. Instead, it's more Bergevin and a race of the downvotes/upvotes.
  9. 4 points
    With respect, the context being missed here is this team has gone into a full blown retool and building through youth for over a year now, expecting to make the playoffs during such a transition is setting the bar at an unrealistically high level to promote the rhetoric that he is continually failing. MB has not been very good during his tenure as a whole, he has also not been nearly as terrible as some make him out to be, the truth, as usual, is somewhere between both biased parties of the argument. He mismanaged some assets and even an entire offseason, he has also surprisingly shown great poise and solid asset management and strategy since embarking on this retool, it has thus far been the beginning of a redemption story for him. If you are going to give the guy a chance to redeem himself from past mistakes, then you have to, at some point, put those mistakes in the past and judge him based on what he is doing while trying to redeem himself. I have little complaints since the retool started about him, with the exception of the current passive offseason, but I do understand the offseason is far from over and things can happen by training camp. All in all, what I am seeing is a team with a top 5 prospect pool in the league, and miles away from any kind of cap hell, those are his dues to collect, there is no other regime to give credit to, there is no one else responsible for this current situation. So while it is easy for some people to continually pile on the dog poop about his past blunders, those same people are seemingly nowhere to be found when it comes to giving an honest unbiased assessment of his retool management. While I think it is easy enough to see why they steer clear of any positive assessment and only jump in the fray when there is mud to fling around and dead horses to beat on, it doesn't make it right by any stretch.
  10. 4 points
    Oh crap, you mean i've been looking at this the wrong way the entire time?!?! It's just like golf and you need the lowest amount of points to be the winning?! I'll see myself out...
  11. 4 points
    I made my point. I would have fired him after 2017. They didnt. They kept him on. What hes done over the last two years tells me that hes moving in the right direction. If I feel things are going well now, I'm not going to short circuit that and replace him because of a move in 2015. GMs grow and mature and learn on the job. So do coaches. So do players. I dont think hes the same guy we hired in 2013 who had never been a GM before. Over his tenure hes made good moves and mistakes. His current trajectory tells me that hes learned from the mistakes. So I'm weighing what is happening now way more than I'm weighing what happened 4 years ago. And what I see is an organization building up their young talent and prospects.
  12. 4 points
    A player who has 53, 46, and 53 points in his last three seasons is not a third line player. Michael sergachev has not proven to be a number 1 d. He was on the third pair last season. Bergevin is Trading all the prospects? What? How? We have one of the best prospect pools in the league thanks to prospects and picks we have added in recent years. Let's stop the madness people. There are areas to criticize but when you say that Bergervin is comparable to Milbury or that Drouin is a third liner. You lose any and all credibility and your argument becomes moot.
  13. 4 points
    The Habs have 25 players on their roster on cap friendly right now. Every player they send down, they save the first 1.075 million in salary. 23 men is the max NHL roster... so to add a player they send 3 to the AHL. Sending down Alzner, Peca and Weise, means they would have 7.269 million in space. Most teams leave about a million in space for callups due to injury. They could sign a player worth up to 6 million with no other moves.
  14. 4 points
    ... to get the cap space to sign the top UFA centreman? At least try to give the full story, Don.
  15. 4 points
    Dude. Its hudon. Not hundon. Not sure if your phone is auto correcting or what, but for the love of God stop calling him hundon.
  16. 4 points
    The bottom line is no one got played. Bergevin tried to get a player with a front loaded offer sheet knowing full well that there was a good possibility the offer could be matched. He risked nothing in making the offer. It may have been unlikely to work, but it was a low-risk, high reward play if it did. The player was content to sign cause Carolina was lowballing him, and would not offer any signing bonus. Signing bonus makes the contract essentially lockout proof and buyout proof. Aho knew it meant either moving to Montreal or staying in Carolina. He wanted to move (sent his agent to lobby for that), but was comfortable staying too. If he wasn't comfortable in either spot, he would have demanded a trade instead of signing an offer sheet. Carolina matched the offer, paying the player more than they intended to, but still not so much that it was worth losing him. it was business... no one got played... they all used the CBA in the way it was intended to be used. In order to get played, you have to be scammed out of something... no one was scammed out of anything.
  17. 4 points
    Aho is the only player on the entire Carolina roster to have any signing bonus money on his contract. Just saying. The idea that they could test the Carolina owner with signing bonus money wasn't a bad one. It was never guaranteed to work but was very much, low-risk as there was nothing to lose here.
  18. 4 points
    I'm no Bergevin apologist, but at this point, I'm pretty sure he could swap Hudon for McDavid, and people would say we have too many centers, and would complain about the cap hit. He tried an offer sheet, the other team matched. Unless people were content with 5 years of Aho at an inflated salary, for him to depart during his peak years, and losing 4 first rounders to boot, well, I dunno what to tell ya. It pretty much seems like a given that the Canes would've matched anything (for sure the two 1st rounder,2nd,3rd offer), potentially even an offer that would've surrendered the 4 1st rounders. Is Aho an $11M or $12M player? I ask that sincerely. Do people REALLY think this was done with a wink and a nod towards placating fans into thinking he was doing something? Sheesh. I will say that the movement of Shaw gave the appearance of clearing cap space for something a bit more definite, though. I'm also not ready to declare the offseason over on July 3.
  19. 4 points
  20. 4 points
    I'd bring in Karlsson and have Petry at 5.5 and be fine with it. And I don't think Karlsson is getting 11. I think he's getting like 9.5. His injuries cost him some money this past year. But even at 11 I'm still fine with it. I keep my top 3 defence... move one to the left side. If I need to clear space, I'm selling high on Andrew Shaw... you can get some savings there. If you sign Karlsson, Benn is allowed to walk so you won't have him on the books. Habs have 11.7 million in space right now, with 23 players signed for next season... so we'd have room to bring in Karlsson even at 11 with just a little move like trading Shaw and replacing him with a Suzuki or Poehling. Send Alzner to the minors, that also clears up some room. Send Dale Weise to the minors and that clears room. And the only notable RFAs to sign are Armia and Lehkonen. By the time next year comes around, and you need to make space again, you'll have another cap rise, you'll have Steve Mason's buyout off the books. You can trade Alzner a lot easier than you can right now, Dale Weise and Matthew Peca come off the books. You've likely got some other moves you can make too.
  21. 3 points
    It is highly unlikely that Poehling will just step into a top-6 NHL C slot. And it is even more unlikely that he will outperform Domi's impressive 72 points. We have seen over and over and over that, apart from rare outliers like Price, Subban, and Gallagher - prospects hardly ever come in and make a big impact. (And hell, even Price and Gally crashed a couple of years in, before recovering; and Subban was benched for five games). And yet wave after wave of prospect comes up with all tbese unrealistic assumptions about what they might be able to do.We never learn. This post also illustrates what I mean about Domi being overlooked as a C. If I told you tomorrow that Poehling would become a 60-point C, folks would be clicking their heels. Meanwhile we have a 23-year-old 72-point C and quite a few people overlook this, or else talk about moving him to W for some reason. Domi's production is that of a legit #1C in the NHL. Let's internalize that, finally.
  22. 3 points
    Not much to talk about these days but man, what a great job Bergevin has done with this team. *goes to get popcorn*
  23. 3 points
    The 25th and 27th teams are closer to the cup than the 14th will EVER be
  24. 3 points
    Can we please stop with the notions that we have to poop the bed for years on end to become an instant contender, and that we have to trade players based on age regardless of where your team is in its building arc? It is seriously ridiculous to consider both of those things to be absolutes, when it comes to how to reach contender status. Did you see St.Louis or Boston bottom feeding for years during the last 5 to 7 years to get where they are today? Did they trade away all their veterans on the wrong side of their prime to achieve their current status? How about San Jose? How many seasons did they spend bottom feeding to acquire a contender during the last 5 to 7 seasons? How many veterans did they trade away in that time? There are several different ways to build a contending team, but ultimately a balance of good drafting, good trades to achieve roster balance, good contracts and cap management are the keys to getting there.
  25. 3 points
    About two years ago, or post-subban trade, I was all for firing Bergevin. I mean I had zero desire to hold onto him. That, then the Alzner signing, a teeeerrrible terrible prospect pool, and the constant need to sign CHaracter guys who couldn’t skate. I really didn’t like MB. Fast forward two years. The sting of the Subban trade has lessened, and it doesn’t seem as lopsided. He’s sent Alzner to the minors, the prospect pool is the best since pacioretty subban price and McDonaugh (and deeper) he seems to realize this league requires great skaters - MB has turned a page, and so have I. Im not saying I no longer criticize him, but I’m saying I recognize what he’s done recently, and if you ask me It’s a very good job. If the team regresses, I’ll change my mind, but right now I like the direction, so right now I like MB.
  26. 3 points
    I have three downvotes on this page alone already, because I don't agree to consider Bergevin a failure. I expect I'll get at least one more for this post. But to extend your proverb, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the new season has not started yet. So I am not yet willing to condemn Bergevin's performance for this summer.
  27. 3 points
    Kotkaniemi and Armia played in a charity game in Pori this past week -- Kotkaniemi skated on the same line with his father and grandfather. And assisted on a goal by his grandfather on Jussi Rynnas. (His father got the second assist.)
  28. 3 points
    Why does this putz bother watching all of these games and actually thinking about what he is writing when he could just spew unfounded opinions like the excretable M. Kelly?
  29. 3 points
    Guys... their names are TATAR AND HUDON. Not Tartar and Hundon. You ruin your credibility when you cant even spell the players name... and its just 5 letters. Its not that hard a name.
  30. 3 points
    At this point, who cares? The Habs have no fewer assets than before the offer sheet. I think because offer sheets happen so infrequently, people expected it to work. The ONLY way it MAY have worked is if the Habs signed him to McDavid money. McDavid money for buying no years of UFA? Ridiculous. The same people complaining about the current lowball offer would be complaining about overpayment...or if even the offer made worked, would be complaining that the Habs didn't buy any UFA years. There honestly would have been no outcome from this that wouldn't have received criticism. I get people are unhappy about the lack of improvement to the team so far this offseason. However, the offer sheet was a valid attempt, but an unlikely resolution.
  31. 3 points
    There are still teams out there with RFAs and cap crunches. Vegas is over the cap with only 20 players on the roster. How are the Rangers going to fit everyone under their cap... 8 million in space and Trouba, Lemieux, Buchnevich, and DeAngelo need to be signed. Trouba alone is gonna cost over 6 million. Chicago has a million in space but needs 2 more players. Toronto and Tampa likely have to clear space for Marner and Point. Florida has 5.4 million in space but only 17 players. Washington has 4.2 million but needs to sign Djoos and Vrana, and that would put them at 22. Vancouver seems ok to me... 5.5 miiion... 27 on the roster (so add 5 million) and only Boeser and Goldobin to sign... but we have reports in the Vancouver paper yesterday that they want to clear space. San Jose is tight to the cap too. As arbitration dates get closer and these RFAs get contracts there will be more pressure on teams to make trades.
  32. 3 points
    What Brendan Kelly does NOT know about hockey could fill the Bell Centre and half the other rinks in the league. He is a doom and gloom hack who never has anything good to say about Les Canadiens. It is a sad commentary on the Gazette that they have gone from writers like Michael Faber and Red Fisher to a non - expert like this one.
  33. 3 points
    His PR team is spinning the situation. If you want to believe that's 100% the truth and no PR spin... that's your choice.. but hey, I've got some great real estate in Brooklyn and Florida that I'd also like to sell you. Also some great beachfront property in Arizona.
  34. 3 points
    He has to play there for 5 seasons. Do you expect him to publicly state "I really didn't want to come back here. They are basically holding me hostage until I can get out in 5 years. Also, to the fans of Carolina... #### you."?
  35. 3 points
    Armia and Lehkonen filing are both for contract negotiations. Hudon filing is literally just another bullet in his, "FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, TRADE ME!" gun.
  36. 3 points
    I already explained this..... They have 25 players under contract on the roster... .when Armia and Lehkonen sign, that will go up to 27. If Hudon signs it will go up to 28. 23 is the max NHL roster. Sending 4 players to the minors or out on trades (likely Alzner, Weise, Peca, Lindgren), will give them additional money (just under 4 million) that puts you at over 11.5 Hudon out gets your roster down to 23 (no cap savings here, cause he isn't signed, he's RFA)... so money in, money out... meh. Then you add someone to the roster. You are now at 24 on the roster. One more person has to leave to make room. Assuming thats another demotion to the minors, its an additional 1 million in room. Thus the Habs have over 12.5 million in cap space today that can be spent on Armia, Lehkonen, plus one new addition.
  37. 3 points
    Good that MB is reinforcing Laval. Imagine if his job were to reinforce the Montreal Canadiens? Oh...wait a minute...
  38. 3 points
    There is no guarantee we would have drafted Debrincat.
  39. 3 points
    And you as the troll. The only time you come on the site is to scream about trades or offers. You took an entire year off from posting during a surprisingly descent season. As soon as something negative happens for you to focus on, you're right back. Nothing personal. I enjoy your grumpiness. But as much as illwill is a cheerleader, you are the reciprocal boo bird.
  40. 3 points
    Everyone pissing about it not being 9 to 9.5 million instead is absolutely missing the point, just like MB stated in the presser, the extra 500k or million over the course of the year will not make a difference, it is the bonuses that make the difference, and front loaded bonuses to boot. You think adding an extra 35k per bi weekly cheque was going to be the make or break point for Carolina? You think a higher cap hit matters to them, they aren't even cap strapped. You think maybe asking a low budget NHL team who has been losing money year after year to dish out 22 million in lump sums during the next 12 months is the most effective and only play to hit them where it hurts and give yourself the best chance to walk away with the player? I'm thinking so. You also inflict the grievous wound of paying all that ridiculous money to a player who does not want to be in your organization and you can't trade him without paying him that 22mill. It could trigger that innate response to say "To hell with that, i'm not cutting 22 million dollars worth of cheques, an entire season's worth of gate revenue, to this kid who doesn't even want to be here." Either way, this was a brilliant play with the best odds of success, there was no other strategy with higher odds, the high signing bonuses were the way forward here. They can still shop while they wait, deal with maneuvering after, the only guys they would really be interested in at this point who are left are Gardiner and maybe Dzingel. If they really want Gardiner, there is nothing stopping them from making him an offer and signing him regardless of what is going on with this offer sheet shuffle things around after. You know, for all the fantasy talk we see offseason after offseason about offer sheets and wanting your GM to be aggressive in his hunt to improve your team, some of the reaction to this well planned move is pretty disappointing. People just refuse to give Bergevin props, but they are right there within seconds to give him wallops though, and if they are forced to give him props it is the most reluctantly forced thing ever, veiled behind the hope his plan fails all together so the wallops can continue two fold. The man has made some blunders over the years, he has also done some pretty savy stuff, it is time to stop pigeon holing him into the peg where he can't do anything good even when he does something good, the negative twist must always exist. He put himself and his team in a bad spot based on some of his failed ideas in the past, but man am I going to plainly admit he has dug himself out of that spot commendably and through good to very good decisions,consistently, over the course of the last 24 months. Not many GMs would have the resolve to dig out of such a hole in a market like this, and not many would have been resourceful enough to pull it off the way he has, I'd argue majority of current GMs would have failed to make the situation better in such a short amount of time, if at all. He is adapting and evolving on the job, he is much better at what he is doing and how he does now than he was 3 or 4 years ago even. I can honestly say he has changed my mind about what he is capable of as a GM, and that happened simply because I was open minded enough to have my mind changed at all. Some of you here, and many on social media could perhaps do the same, it is pretty hard to give this guy a bad mark based on his body of work during the past 2 years, and 2 years is a long time. Perhaps a little recognition and hopefulness going into the next 2 years would be in order? Just a thought.. End Rant, Apologies
  41. 3 points
    Live view of Bergevin walking into the press conference
  42. 3 points
  43. 3 points
    I still think it best to go the NCAA route for at least one year, look at Poehling now after waiting couple years, being in weight room twice a day and practising more than playing. Let the kid adjust to playing vs older bigger faster competition first.
  44. 3 points
    He was an elite defensive forward, the best of his time. People who did not see Carbo play probably cannot appreciate the way in which he really could control a game; at his peak he was just as impactful in doing this from a defensive perspective as a guy like Ovechkin might be from an offensive POV. A fully deserving member of the HoF in my opinion. On a side note, I'm one of those dinosaurs who thinks it's unfortunate that the Selke now routinely goes to high-scoring two-way forwards. The award was designed for Bob Gainey, the prototypical defensive specialist. Carbo was Gainey's truest successor.
  45. 3 points
    He did not "get dumped because he is a liability to his team". That's not true. He got dumped because his GM has mismanaged the cap and no one will take players who suck like Nick Bonino or kyle Turris, who they would rather dump but would have to include assets to do so (ala Patrick Marleau). A player who is an actual liability would need to have assets included with him in order to get another team to take on the contract. His value is depressed because of the contract... but it wasn't negative value.... the Predators got picks and two prospects. Obviously not full value because of the contract... but not negative value either. At least be accurate in your statement.
  46. 3 points
    26 of my top 31 were taken in the first round. I consider Bob McKenzie the master at these rankings. He hit 26. I am now 2-1-1 head to head with him in the last 4 years. Sportsnet was showing quotes during the draft. They quoted our site for SIX different prospects. I'm buzzing.
  47. 3 points
    i think he likes wearing 92million bucks to practice
  48. 3 points
    I'll follow up to my post now that the season is over. As for billeting, it was an ok experience. Our transportation arrangement fell apart about 2 weeks into the school year, which made for some challenges. In fact, the family that agreed to provide transportation more often asked us for help, so we severed that relationship fairly quickly. My biggest concern coming in was transportation, and that issue presented itself fairly quickly. As far as the player, he ended up not quite being the role model we expected. It turns out he's the talented kid that's been catered to thus far in his hockey career. He was the big fish in a little pond, and here, became just another fish in a big pond. He wasn't used to putting in the effort and earning his coach's trust. As such, it made for a difficult start to the year, to the point where we were expecting him to not return after the Thanksgiving break. He was benched a few times due to attitude issues. So while we had hoped he would be a positive role model and influence for our son, that wasn't the case. There was literally zero extra effort put in other than what the team had scheduled. Overall, he's a good kid, respectful, polite, and about what you'd expect from a 15/16 year old. Will we do it again? With our own son playing competitive hockey at a different association, no, we will not. The transportation became difficult, and my wife and I want to watch my own son, not divide and conquer during the hockey season. As an interesting note, our billet's 15u AAA coach has resigned his position after several years (and being named the 15u coach of the year) to become the 10u (Squirt) director at my son's association. My son will be a second year squirt this upcoming season, and is one of only 2 returning goalies. My wife and I are hoping he gets placed at his correct playing level, rather than a default AA goalie because of need. Last year, my son's team was again fairly strong (28-10-2). Their lowest placement in any tournament was 2nd, including an OT championship game loss, and a championship game shootout loss, and his team finished second in the state.
  49. 3 points
    My two favorite teams are Montreal and whoever plays against Boston. For 2 weeks I love the Blues.
  50. 3 points
    How can you not "care much" whether those reprobates, those jabbernowls, those scum-sucking, filth-chewing, stench-emitting, bile-spewing, face-licking bags of festering dog pus, the mother-frigging Boston Bruins, win yet another Cup? I propose that you have your lifetime membership in Habs nation revoked!! GO BLUES GO!!!!!!!!!!!
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