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  1. I’m with you there. I personally don’t like tanking even with 10 games left, if there’s still a chance at making the playoffs. Players and coaches will be thinking that way as well. Truthfully, although I am someone who hibernated for 3 months in relatively strict fashion until work was again available to me, I’d be excited as heck if I were dawning a Habs jersey with this opportunity. We haven’t talked much about the players and their mentality yet, but after this long of a layoff, it truly is like another season in many ways. Meaning, while the Habs are the underdog even still, the opportunity is there for the taking.
  2. I’d imagine you’d want the players to have the best facility available for something like the Stanley Cup playoffs. Whether it be for training, medical needs, anything you can think of. I’ve consistently rolled my eyes whenever people bring up the asterix that will accompany the Stanley Cup winner because while I understand we have a unique circumstance, the winner will have been deserving. What? When Boston wins, Washington or St. Louis repeat, or Colorado finally breaks through, there will still really be an asterix? Or does it only apply when a team like Montreal or Chicago win? Only then, there will be an asterix. 😂 Regardless, despite my rant, the point is that if they were to play in places like Alaska, North West Territories, or St. John’s, Newfoundland, there truly would be an asterix associated with the cup. I’d imagine that the league would want this to look as legitimate and professional as is possible without crowds.
  3. Lafreniere > Winning vs Pittsburgh & losing round after Trying to win vs Pittsburgh and every round thereafter > 12.5% chance at 1st overall
  4. It’s silly. If the Habs are bad (which I’ve been on record saying we’re obviously underdogs against the Penguins) and they lose, then they’ll end up with the potential to have a lottery pick in the situation described. If they go on a run, while unlikely, all the better. A team shouldn’t make themselves worse when they have a shot at the cup, ever. If they’re already as bad as people describe, they’ll earn the pick on their own. I started posting after reading your entire post but see that it is the same conclusion you came up with as well.
  5. It would be quite nice if the 22% held up strong. 💪🏻
  6. I think there have been many years in the 2000s where the Bruins and/or their fan base looked up to the Canadiens as being at the same level as their organization, if not even higher. This is partially due to miraculous goaltending by Theodore and company, and partially due to other playoff successes against them even if we truly were an underdog, but I know for a fact that there have been years in the 21st century, if not sustained for awhile, that we were superior to the Bruins as an organization. They won a Stanley Cup in 2011 and nothing before then since 1972. We also lost to them in game 7 overtime during the year that they went on to win the cup in 2011. I feel as though they thought we were their toughest opponent during that run. They have admittedly had the ability to sustain a higher standard and the fact that we haven’t is not okay. Again, this overlooks the fact that in the 90s and early 2000s (probably until about 2007-2008) the Bruins were nothing to write home about. It’s not okay that we’re there now and they were there then, but it does demonstrate that they’ve been there as well. Then we finally get to the point that I’ve been debating and that is that in rebuttal someone will claim that while Boston didn’t win another cup between 1972 and 2011, their team was “built” well whereas any single time the Habs lose, it was because we were not an organization that stand with the elite of the world. Again, it’s being missed that indeed we were up there with the elite. When Price was the goalie of the NHL, the Habs were viewed in the manner in which you describe. It was simply the negative nancies or those who were perhaps too smart for their own good who “knew” the Habs weren’t in the same class as the Boston Bruins, as an organization. I believe that if not on other occasions, our core led by Gionta would have been well respected around the league (and we were getting free agents to sign) as well as once again, when Price was at his peak. It’s true that as Habs fans we often felt as though we were “one player away” rather than “fulfilled” as a team. But our team was built from the goaltending out and it just so happens that we’ve never really seen a sustained peak Price during the playoffs, outside of perhaps the season he got injured against the Rangers. This discussion goes hand in hand with those who can’t see that a team can be good, and still not win. Those who oppose this view when it comes to the Habs simply often state that our goaltender shouldn’t be the highest paid player. I don’t believe this view is a fact though. It’s only viewed this way because for the Habs, it hasn’t worked out even when the team was good.
  7. On one hand you state that you weren’t a chronic complainer, which is true during that period of time, but on the other hand you then proceed to downplay how good some of our teams were during the span I noted. The media were never going to give the Habs credit regardless, in that we were always going to be a “surprise” if we did well, but it was only some people on here who labelled the Habs as a “tier two” team, in a way confirming that the Habs indeed would have needed something like “luck” to win it all. No one is saying that getting back to where we were is necessarily enough, but those who were chronically complaining fit in to the category you described when you said some people can’t accept that a good team can be assembled, and still not win. Similar to the fact that you state that you were not a chronic complainer then, I will state that I am not akin to a Leafs fan in the present. I do not accept where we have been for the past few years. With that being said, what you are demanding is unrealistic. Apparently a team had to lose before they win and yet you claim that getting back to where we were in 2015 is not what we want. In fact it is. Because again, the team needs to get to the dance before it can move around. Regardless of the general manager, what you are asking for is almost impossible in the modern NHL. The seasons that Boston or Tampa Bay actually do miss the playoffs are simply overlooked and these teams have Stamkos, Crosby, Ovechkin, etc. I understand that this is exactly the point. The Habs need more talent and we wish they had it. But those who every single season, would rather have the Habs miss the playoffs and get a decently high draft pick rather than “just make it and have a chance” will never be on the same page as myself. It’s not so much that I would be accepting defeat or mediocrity with such an expression. Not at all. I would be expecting and hopeful to win every round. Not blindly either, but if we were at the level that we were a few years ago, then the team actually would once again have a shot. I think where we do agree is that once we get to that point, we would like to see perhaps some deadline moves that favor us, or continual improvement during the off season. That, I do agree with. I don’t however think it is a realistic goal to expect that we are just going to dominate the league head to toe each and every season. Those who wish this, will indeed be negative fans for the foreseeable and indefinite future. With such expectations, I am not sure they realize that they may never again be happy.
  8. Definitely. Plekanec is consistently up there when it comes to stats that would show top performers as a center on the Habs and even during his prime, he could have been an amazing 2nd/3rd line center if used properly. In the present, we need to really hope Kotkaniemi can surpass what Koivu accomplished or even would have accomplished had he not got injured. Koivu was 21st overall draft pick, Kotkaniemi 3rd, and still I would be shocked if Kotkaniemi could surpass Koivu’s career high of 75 points. (Koivu was above ppg average in 96-97 but only played 50 games). If I were a betting man I would say Kotkaniemi may never get 75 points. If his comparisons to players like Kopitar or Barkov are at all accurate though, he should.
  9. I wasn’t going on about Vanek. My post didn’t intend to have anything to do with him. I just meant that there were a couple of years around the time of the Vanek acquisition, that the Habs had somewhat of a shot in my opinion. I didn’t remember the exact year off the top of my head so I said “Vanek years” and worded it poorly. Offensive talent has been questionable, but goaltending and defensive systems have been the reason the Habs have done well and in one of the years where the Habs went deep, our goalie (and) best player got injured. The topic of “the Habs were never as good as the 2018-2019 Tampa Bay Lightning” is where the conversation becomes abstract. Surely a regular season total of 128 points was unmatched by the Habs who maxed out at 110 points in the recent past. But then we get into conversations such as being “built for the playoffs” or “just get in and you have a chance” and things like that which can be argued in circular fashion depending on one’s side. I know many don’t buy into those sayings. Tampa Bay was swept in the first round 4-0 in 2019 whereas the Habs lost in the second round during the year where they finished 2nd in the NHL in 2015. Ironically, (yet somewhat irrelevant) they lost to Tampa Bay that year who had finished with 108 points. Tampa is amazing. They have Stamkos. Kucherov who was once compared to Kuznetsov in terms of “who’s better?” Developed into the best player in the league for a few years. We have had players who are capable of winning a cup on our team throughout the years though. The thing is that while we were having those good seasons around 2015 or a good run in 2010, there were still those complaining heavily about the shape of our team. The Habs of course never did win and so those who bashed our team even amidst success were “right” that it was absolutely allegedly impossible for the Habs to have won. If anything, the recent state (although hopefully we win the cup this year 😁) of the team has shown that those years actually were years where the Habs had a shot, and it would almost be nice to just be back there again. Because regardless of those who were “right”, the Habs did have a shot, and it was a better place to be.
  10. 96,97, etc were the last point per game players outside of Kovalev. Turgeon, Damphousse, Rucinsky, Koivu, maybe a couple of others with less games had over ppg averages.
  11. I just meant that for a few years around the time we acquired Vanek, the Habs were a decent team statistically. I agree that we’ve lacked offensive talent in general over the years, although Max Pacioretty is the answer in a way to your question. He may not have accumulated the same amount of points as an elite player but he was an elite goal scorer for sure. On the other hand, I do not agree and never did agree that it was absolutely impossible for the Habs to have had a shot at winning a cup for in the past 15 years. There were 4 or 5 years where there was certainly a chance. The only comment I was making is that if that happens to Tampa Bay, “fans fail to realize that an excellent team can be built over the years, and still not win.” And yet when it comes to the Habs, it was always because they were “second tier“. They never really had a shot. I guess in that circumstance, I am simply to accept that my knowledge was inferior and that I only had rose coloured glasses on when the Habs never had a chance even though they made a conference final and lost their starting goalie. Furthermore, Tomas Tatar has a .90 ppg average this year. Cut the guy a break and notice him!
  12. I think the ridiculous part of the argument is attempting to switch one’s team for another because.... that’s not gonna happen any time soon. The end. Sounds just like a team we had around the Vanek years, give or take, as well as the mid to late 2000s. But of course, during those times when the Habs had a decent club without winning, they were still labeled as merely second tier. A team who “obviously” would have never had a shot. It’s only these other teams that are actually good but simply cannot get over the hill despite having a good team.
  13. I keep hearing statements about how utterly irrelevant Drouin is to the conversation but he’s not irrelevant, simply because everything you said about Sergachev could be said about Drouin and we signed him for 5.5 million. He had drama in Tampa Bay but his raw skill can be that of a franchise player. I saw it during stretches when Drouin was on Tampa. Sergachev is a 9th overall pick but Drouin is a 3rd. The reason you think Drouin is irrelevant to the topic is because you obviously think lower of Drouin than Sergachev. This point is debatable though since Drouin is still young as well. While I didn’t like the trade myself, it wasn’t because Drouin is less skilled or useful, it was because of their positional difference. The point is that Sergachev is not worth 3 million more than Drouin. That’s the only comparison being made here. Commandant’s simple thought about having to overpay for an offer sheet is the main logical rebuttle. I agree with that, but it doesn’t necessarily have to be such an overpayment. I’m never one to talk about money and contracts, but in my opinion there’s a difference between offer sheeting someone like Aho or Hedman, versus offer sheeting a Mikhail Sergachev. Even Aho, some numbers that people suggested we should have offered him were over the top. And yes, just like you said, it can be argued that Sergachev’s numbers were inflated on a Tampa Bay team. I wouldn’t so much argue that personally, but it’s unfortunately usually the case that player’s numbers drop when they arrive here. There are certainly exceptions (Domi), and I give the opportunity that Sergachev’s numbers alongside Weber could be decent. So it is possible this would be an exception.
  14. I think my post was misinterpreted because whether or not that trade was wrong or bad is arguable. I didn’t like that trade for reasons that are completely irrelevant to the topic. The point is if Drouin was signed to 5.5 million, Sergachev is unlikely to be signed for 8.5 million by the same general manager considering they were traded for one another. I personally would not fault him for thinking that way, while others would be quick to say something like “obviously MB wouldn’t” in some type of snarky way. It’s also indicative that 8.5 million is an overpayment. It does make our team better, so if that’s the only move in the world versus having unused cap space, by all means go for it. It simply wouldn’t be the wisest use of money because Sergachev is not a player who is worth that much.
  15. So we trade Sergachev for Drouin, then sign Drouin to a 5.5 a million per season contract and now we’re expected to offer Sergachev 8.5 million on an offer sheet? It’s funny because I did not like the Sergachev trade, and I also constantly argue about the fact that we do not spend to the cap, so it’s true that it should not necessarily be a concern. I also understand that paying 3 million more to Segachev is off set in a sense by the fact that we would have then have acquired Drouin for nothing. With all that being said, 8.5 million is too much for Sergachev. This is the first time I’ve ever been on this side of the fence when it comes to paying to acquire talent but there are better fish in the sea for that price and I think it would be “too rich for MB” for good reason. Would I complain if it happened and succeeded? I wouldn’t. Would I offer less? Sure would.
  16. From comments I have come across around the web and social media, it seems as though people are really giving the Habs a good chance against the Pens. While I have enjoyed being an optimistic Habs fan for most of my life, the Habs were sellers at the deadline and the Pens were buyers. Players like Zucker were added (albeit at the “expense of Galchenyuk) and we lost a player like Kovalchuk. I noticed by the deafening silence after my most recent post that I am one of the few who still dwell on the loss of Kovalchuk. While I understand there would be a chance to win the series, the Habs got rid of a performer and the pens added one at the deadline. One would have to assume that just the mentality of the organizations would be different from one another heading into these playoffs. With that being said, there should be less pressure on the Habs, if that makes sense, and it would be true to argue that Kovalchuk was acquired in order to fill a void on a depleted team. We have some players, like Drouin, for example, who will be back and healthy. Come to think of it, and this is as important a point as any, I remember watching a Tampa Bay versus Pittsburgh playoff series a few years back, and Drouin was outclassing Crosby. Sincerely, my fondest memories of Drouin are from that series. Here’s to hoping.
  17. I’m going to be the first to say that I miss Kovalchuk. I would have loved to have him in our lineup. I always believe that every single player of that caliber increases your chances during a cup run. Thus, rentals. I also wonder how this Covid scenario impacts all those thoughts that he may want to re-sign here. More serious life matters may easily remove the honeymoon sensation that was being felt both by fans, as well as himself.
  18. I heard something about Pittsburgh being a possible first round matchup. One thing’s for certain when it comes to them; Crosby will be one of those ready to go. I guess for me, his mere presence is the same as what was being said about Carey Price. I imagine him to be similar to Gallagher in that respect, but with more skill. I haven’t commented much on the situation, but sign me up for the Habs making the playoffs as well. As long as safety precautions are met, I have no problem with it. No asterix for me, as I actually expect a deserving team would win, regardless of where they were in standings. It wouldn’t degrade the meaningfulness of the regular season, as we shouldn’t expect a circumstance like this to arise again for quite some time, we should hope.
  19. Loved Subban. Liked the Weber trade. The question was: Was Markov a better defenseman than Subban? I had to think for about 45 seconds, but I honestly think he was. If Markov were traded to pretty much any team in the league at Subban’s age, he would have been a #1 or at worst #1B. Subban’s tenure in Nashville, (more so his usage, not that he played bad) despite their stacked defense changed my perception of him slightly just because of his usage. His numbers this year were worse than could be expected as well. My last memory of Subban on the team, was a horribly boring season where the team performed terribly and he was the most relied upon player. All that being said and tied in with the last point, the Habs record with or without Markov is really the reason I’ve answered the way I have. He had an enormous impact for me the success of our team. While my opinion may seem harsh, it’s a comparison between Markov and Subban and Markov was great For the Habs. It’s so over used but it’s similar to Lidstrom. Subban may be flashier, but you’d probably want Lidstrom on your NHL team. Yes, Markov wasn’t quite Lidstrom, though on Detroit he would have been. In the end, it’s certainly possible that Subban was more talented, and Markov had a larger positive impact on his team but my answer goes to Markov.
  20. My list: 1) Therrien 2) Martin 3) Julien 4) Carbo 5) Gainey 6) Cunneyworth It is what it is.
  21. The funny thing is that if this is true, a lot of that could be in large part due to language. I am a coach myself and I’ve had other coaches try to explain things to me in English, with their first language being French, and while they are great coaches in their own right, I can spend an hour with them and learn nothing, simply because of the way they communicate their words. I am in no way generalizing that to an extended portion of the population but I have heard Carbonneau speak English and hope he can speak well, it’s a whole other ball game when communicating specific tactics. To use myself as an example as well, I like to use precise wording in my coaching and can guarantee that I do not communicate my thoughts as concisely when teaching in French. Of course this is all speculation, but it would indeed be ironic, if our coaches having to speak French for the media, would ever have an impact on their communicative abilities with the players, who would mostly expect to be coached in English.
  22. Thank you for your service #79 My fondest memories of Markov include his rye smile, as well as his infamous cross ice pass on the power play to whoever was fortunate enough to have a left hand shot on the right wall at that point in time. Gaping net open, all they would have to do was hit the target he set up for them. I hope to see him in the organization sometime in the future. All the best 😁 Link to an article but not where I found out the news: https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/mobile/former-habs-defenceman-andrei-markov-hangs-up-his-skates-1.4899312
  23. Andrei Markov retired today and while he did not make anyone’s list here as far as I know, he easily could have. If I had played hockey as a defenseman more often than sporadically throughout the years, I’m sure he certainly would have made mine. I put Koivu on my list, but Andrei Markov was just about an equal in terms of value brought to the quality of the club.
  24. Yzerman and Lemieux could be up there as well but I’m already the person who listed 10 players. 😂 I’m Canadian, but have Czech and Finnish ancestry and so Jagr and Selanne made the list. I didn’t place any goalies but Hasek and Brodeur were up there as well. It’s not that I ever think of it but one of my earliest memories of Roy was the debacle against the Red Wings and I didn’t witness much of his greatness on the Habs so he really wouldn’t be up there for me.
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