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The Chicoutimi Cucumber

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  1. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

    While the general sense among commentators here in town is that the Canucks want to move him and in fact have tried, it may be the case that they'd rather see if he can recover form than give him away at low value. The thing is, if a coach spends most of his season not liking you, it's hard to move the needle on that. So even if you're correct, I'd still keep an eye on the Canucks training camp and circle back if Hutton still looks to be on the outs. (Not that I have any illusions - he's a bit of a long-shot at this point).
  2. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

    I definitely think we should acquire him as a low-cost option for LD, but the question is what went wrong for him. He had a sophomore slump - not unusual - but then became persona non grata when new coach Travis Green came in. His work ethic has been questioned; on the other hand, he is known for being super positive and happy-go-lucky, and it may be that Old School Green is confusing a jovial nature with a lack of commitment, which, in NHL circles these days, always means a kind of grim humourlessness. We have a ton of cap space and can carry the bloated contract for one year. I don't really get what MB is waiting for.
  3. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

    You know, I just realized that Hutton is a LD. 25 points in his rookie season...25 years old...now he is on the outs, grossly overpaid, and can undoubtedly be had for a song. Plus he will be highly motivated, being on a expiring deal. I would toss a 7th round pick or something and invite him to establish himself as a potentially-useful puck-mover on our D.
  4. Habs re-sign Phillip Danault

    MB would dismantle that team due to its ATTITUDE (He would however, retain the four C you list)
  5. Habs re-sign Phillip Danault

    I think he can function as a #2C - especially if he is playing behind a dangerous, legitimate #1C - but that he is ideally a #3, and quite a good #3 at that. We used to say that Pleks in his prime was an ideal #2. Pleks was a more dangerous offensive player than Danault. As I've grumbled before, MB's failure has not simply been his inability to develop the stud #1C. It expands from there to include a complete absence of any succession plan for both Markov and Plekanec. What would be interesting is a team that had four Danaults down the middle. We were somewhere within the region of this when we had Pleks-DD-Eller. Such a team would not be the ideal model, but would have a lot of depth and be able to roll four well-anchored two-way lines. I still say that, if you don't have a Joe Thornton, something like that is the model you want to aim at.
  6. Habs re-sign Phillip Danault

    He's far and away the team's best natural C. The mind boggles
  7. Habs re-sign Phillip Danault

    👍👍👍 Excellent deal.
  8. Joel Armia signs a one-year deal

    I too am skeptical of the Drouin-at-C experiment, but under the circumstances we may as well give it another year. Didn't he show improvement in the second half? Maybe he can figure it out. It is, however, a terrible thing to do to a young player; to his credit, Drouin has been a saint about being thrown to the wolves by inept and irresponsible management. Scherbak is an intriguing X-factor. He could give us a little bit of that 'Galchenyuk' quality, i.e., high-end offensive moves when you least expect it. Who knows.
  9. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

    When it comes to Van, I'm slightly curious about Ben Hutton. They've lost faith in him and he has one year left on a ridiculous 2.8 cap hit. Young puck-moving D-man (even if he is RD)...might be worth taking a flyer on, at a discount.
  10. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

    Canucks are rebuilding. While Juolevi seems to be a bit of a disappointment and probably could be had for the right return, their organization is weakest at D, and I don't see why they'd invest huge dollars and trade future assets for Pacioretty.
  11. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    If only Nashville were stupid enough to make this trade. Alas, their GM is not Marc Bergevin. Also, MB wouldn't make that trade, as it fails to represent a downgrade between two players who play the exact same position.
  12. Permanent Rumour Thread

    I dunno. It's pretty common for a team to generate a "sweepstakes" for an impact player. In such times, everyone knows the player is on the block. So I'm not sure we lose huge leverage by saying we intend to trade him (if that's in fact what MB said). The only thing that troubles me slightly is that the tone of that report - "there will be no contract negotiation" - seems a bit on the sniffy side, as if MB got pissed off. Which is also what seems to have happened with Markov, and during the Subban negotiations. It seems consistent with MB's modus operandi that he would make major decisions based on being in a snit over a guy playing hardball.
  13. Is Weber’s injury the excuse Bergevin needed?

    Price has a NMC. Weber doesn't. That's the most obvious reason for trading him before Price. Of course, Price might be happy to get a crack elsewhere. But I really don't care to see the Habs trying to force the issue by doing what the Canucks did to Luongo. If Price wants to stay, let him stay, as the greatest Montreal Canadien of his era. The return for goalies often seems surprisingly low anyway - especially ones with a monster contract.
  14. Is Weber’s injury the excuse Bergevin needed?

    Likely quite right. Bergevin has managed by ego rather than by rational analysis so far, so why we expect any different now is quite unclear. On the other hand, it's interesting to see the relatively positive vibes from many fans and media based on a promising-looking draft, some long-overdue cleaning up of the coaching staff, and talk of a "retool"-cum-rebuild. Based on this amnesiac willingness to overlook Bergevin's proven history of incompetence in favour of whatever hope he dangles for a better future, I think it's possible that Bergevin could sell a Weber trade in return for promising young/future assets, without really being held accountable for putting himself in that situation in the first place. But whether he realizes that or not is another question; as is whether he can even set aside his own ego long enough to understand the benefits of trading Weber.
  15. Habs hire Luke Richardson as Assistant Coach

    I liked the Burrows hiring a lot because it showed an aggressive willingness to vacuum up prospective French-speaking coaching talent. Many people have identified Burrows as coaching material and we didn't wait around, but rather pro-actively locked him up. Now this is a radically different hire, in that Richardson is a seasoned pro rather than a promising novice like Burrows. But both are good hires. All that said, we probably felt quite a similar wave of optimism when MB brought in a bunch of new people in 2013: Brisebois, Lapointe, Lefebvre, etc.. Our optimism this time around should be tempered by the knowledge that those princes turned into pumpkins in fairly short order...and also by the knowledge that Bergevin declined to instill any kind of accountability or demand for excellence until he was absolutely forced to by circumstances. Having seemingly bought renewed good will by partial house- cleaning, will he revert to his previous patterns - ? So, yes, this seems like good news. But I'm at the point where I'm only interested in one thing - tangible indicators of excellence at all levels of the organization. I won't be sold "potential" any longer by the Bergevin Habs.
  16. Is Weber’s injury the excuse Bergevin needed?

    The problem is that Weber himself would be the primary veteran asset we could move in return for pieces that could really propel the rebuild. Since he's been injured for a full year, he can't be traded; and he'll probably need to play healthy and at a high level for a while before he becomes trade bait. Shaw and Byron are injured as well. Neither would command a truly high-impact return anyway, but they can't be traded right now either. I know people fantasize about trading Price, but I personally don't see it happening.
  17. Permanent Rumour Thread

    I've said before...MB manages by personal ego. It's a major reason why the team is as wretched as it is.
  18. 2018 Rocket/ECHL Team TBD Offseason Thread

    It's a good hire, emblematic of what the Habs must do, i.e., vacuum up and groom as many promising French-speaking coaching talents as possible. I heard Marc Crawford on Vancouver radio, before this hiring was announced, predicting that Burrows would make an excellent coach. Good move by the organization.
  19. Do you think Montreal can make the playoffs this year?

    The way this team can make the playoffs is 1. Price has an absolutely stellar season 2. The team develops that fabled and rare 'underdog against the world' mindset where every guy is willing to chew through rope for every other guy 3. Julien has a strong system and every last player buys into it 100% 4. A critical mass of young players - especially Mete and Juulsen - exceed expectations and take big steps forward 5. No other significant injuries happen. If all of these things occur, this team has a chance to battle for the #8 playoff spot. Something similar can be said for every terrible team that ever took to the ice. The thing is, in terms of probabilities, this amounts to saying 'miracles can happen.' Rational analysis says the team won't make the playoffs. Maybe we'll turn out to be the Black Swan...and maybe I'll win that all-expenses-paid vacation. Don't expect or plan on it.
  20. Do you think Montreal can make the playoffs this year?

    With Weber, they had a chance. Without Weber? They're a pretty good AHL team.
  21. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

  22. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

    People should clip and save this point, for reference every time they feel this strange irrational urge to minimize MB's failure. It's a huge failure, and it's on him.
  23. Injury news

    Van has problems, but unlike the Habs they have some genuinely elite young talent. If that talent blossoms, they could do better than we think. I can't prove this of course, but I have a feeling that Price is in for the duration. He's a Hab and intends to retire a Hab. I get a Luongo-in-Florida vibe off him. Just a feeling.
  24. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

    The 'French' factor is likely less about schools and more about a diffuse paranoia that English people aren't welcome in Quebec. That said, if I remember right Carbo expressed concern over the school thing. People may be under the impression that you're not allowed to send your kid to English school, period. Never underestimate the power of sheer ignorance.
  25. Finally, I like the plan and direction!

    You make a good point about the perils of tanking. Even if you finish last, you only have like a 1/4 chance of getting the #1 pick. Many fans seem to assume that a crap team automatically means the first overall pick, and that the first overall pick will automatically be a franchise player. Neither assumption is sound. That's why, IMHO, it should never have come to this. You look at a franchises like Boston or Nashville that turned over their core without tanking, and you see what deft management can do. But we are reduced to hoping we luck out in a draft lottery and to hoping that the blithering jabbernowl who got us in this mess can somehow find the acumen to get us out of it. I'll have some fun pulling for our crop of good-not-great young players, but this situation should never have happened, and I am not confident that the longer-term results of all this pain will be close to worth it. Basically this is a disaster and we will need a TON of massively good luck to get out of it properly, i.e., as legit contenders.
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