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The Chicoutimi Cucumber

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  1. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    Yeah, what's going on this summer anyway? Way too much personal animosity on here.
  2. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    Makes sense. In any case, we'll have much of this season to observe his performance. If he continues on as a 60+-points guy, then I would call that a red flag that his days of really top-end production are over. As for Gallagher for Nuge, I'd do it. The odds of JT being available are very unclear.
  3. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    Man, relax. I don't know what's up with you and Lovett, but for my part, all I said was that his production has dropped substantially over the last two seasons. Now that's just a fact, and his career points-per-game average occludes that fact rather than bringing it to the fore. Therefore, i suggested that we might want to think harder about the difference between an 80-point and a 66-point C, and where we see Tavares falling on that continuum in the future as opposed to the past. I'd also feel better if there were an explanation for his rather dramatic drop in production, because Lovett is correct on the following specific point: we've seen other stars have explosive early careers before settling into lesser production levels, and there is no particular reason to assume that Tavares is different. Just to be clear, I'm not saying this to attack anybody (including Tavares), nor to score cheap debating points. Why would I? What do I care, particularly, about John Tavares? But there is often a gap between a player's rep and his actual performance, and I find it interesting to consider that this might be the case with him. That's all. (And I certainly wouldn't deny that even as a 66-point guy, he would still be the best C the team has had since pre-injury Koivu).
  4. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    I'm not slagging him. I'm just suggesting that it would be good to have some understanding of why he's seen a 20-point drop in production over the past three seasons, before we go and anoint him the Saviour. A 66-point C is great and all, but that's quite different from "averaging a clip under a PPG his entire career." Which JT would we be getting?
  5. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    I don't blame him for being saddled with a crap team and a crap organization. The whole 'what has he ever done' thing is a shibboleth. Amidst all the hubbub, however, it IS worth noting that his production dipped very substantially, from 86 to 70 and 66 points in the last two seasons. We think of him as an elite PPG+ guy, a superstar...but is he still? Or are we basically talking about Mikko Koivu in his prime, a legit #1C but not really a top-tier force? Sure, he's relatively young, but he wouldn't be the first guy to have a few explosive seasons in his early 20s before settling into a norm of good-not-outstanding production; think Rick Nash or Zach Parise. The question may be unsettling, but it's worth asking.
  6. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    The Expos were basically cursed by an array of factors, not the least of which was the destruction of that '94 team by the combination of a players' strike and parsimonious ownership. One often-overlooked factor was the complete failure of Quebec and Canadian money to step up and buy the team. The Big O was a huge element, though. Not only was it at the furthest possible geographical point from the sport's 'natural' fans (anglos, concentrated on the west island, not the distant east end where they stupidly put that monstrosity) but it was an atrocious place to see any sporting event: cavernous and ugly except when jam-packed. One year the Expos had to go on a weeks-long road trip because the stupid stadium was falling apart and structurally unsafe. Gawd. Anyway, the Expos' departure soured me on MLB and, much as I enjoy the sport, I've never been able to lock in and cheer for any other team. (And please note, I'll drink my own blood before cheering for any team from Toronto). I never got over it, basically
  7. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    Damned MLB...they moved the Expos and therefore permanently ruined my summers from a 'sports fan' POV
  8. 2017-18 Line-up

    I'm Chicoutimi Cucumber and I endorse this message (In all seriousness, even if it were a good idea to move Weber around like that - which it's not - the Habs are much too stodgy an organization for that sort of radical thinking. Weber will be on the first unit PP until he is no more good at it, and even then, he'll probably stay there until long past the point where he shouldn't, both because of coaching conservatism/linear thinking, and because the Habs have no one else capable of doing it, anywhere in their system).
  9. 2017-18 Line-up

    dlbalr DON Lovett Commandant Aaaaaand, my personal favourite... Habs29
  10. 2017-18 Line-up

    Holy crap, let's hope so!
  11. 2017-18 Line-up

    No sandpaper at all in that top 6. And that #1C slot is a farce, as is the #1 LD slot. Incredible to think this is the best MB could do going into year 6 😣
  12. 2017-18 Line-up

    This is an all time classic Habs29 post Well said, young man. Not to sidetrack the thread - heaven forfend - but it IS interesting to think about the mental images we have of the regulars on this site. I sort of picture Brian as a 20something with a proclivity for sober cardigans...for instance 😎
  13. Fire Bergevin

    It's an interesting question. If true, it shows the difference between YOUNG talent, whether developed from within or acquired, and UFAs/vets. Gally, Galy, and Patches are top-6 FW developed internally (mostly on Gainey/Gauthier's dime) and Drouin was acquired in return for a prospect. All are on cheap contracts, even if Patches' is a result of some bizarrely self-defeating negotiating by the Pacioretty side. By contrast, our D is the most obvious casualty of MB's inability to develop players, although the Pleks and Shaw contracts are examples of the same thing.
  14. Fire Bergevin

    I think what he's driving at is the basic division on this forum: between Bergevin's defenders, who seem generally grateful just to have a team that makes the playoffs (when 'anything is possible') and his critics, who are angry that the team has basically failed to improve since 2014 and is no more of a legit contender now than it was then, while having a decimated development system. The former are the 'good enough' crowd. The latter want to see San Jose signing OUR rejects and having their fans hope that those rejects have untapped potential due to having been buried behind a deep roster.
  15. Habs sign Mark Streit, 1 year, $700,000

    Ryder + a 2nd: The Return
  16. Fire Bergevin

    Yeh, this is a team that had Emelin on the top pairing with Weber for a good while. Nothing new here.
  17. Fire Bergevin

  18. Fire Bergevin

    Wow...look out Nashville Predators, there is a new blueline powerhouse in town
  19. Fire Bergevin

    Yep. This is the basic head-scratcher. Bergevin seems to be the only GM in the league - probably the only one in living memory - who just doesn't believe in offence from the back end. This, on a club with inadequate offence to begin with. At least, that is a reasonable inference, based on his moves to this point. It's bemusing.
  20. Habs sign Mark Streit, 1 year, $700,000

    If he trades Chucky for Giroulx, he should be fired immediately. In fact, if he seriously approaches Molson with that deal, he should be fired on the spot, before he can cripple the organization. I'm reasonably confident that even Bergevin isn't that stupid. Reasonably. Not 100% confident. Which is a pretty sad indictment in itself.
  21. Andrei Markov tribute thread - officially not back

    The individual players are mostly good and Weber is excellent, but I don't understand its one-dimensionality. It's like having a FW corps filled with mid-level small, shifty guys...it'll work some nights depending on the matchups, but doesn't seem to make sense as a recipe for success longer term. Petry is the only puck mover. That's bizarre.
  22. Andrei Markov tribute thread - officially not back

    Boy, reading Markov's interview responses is painful. He loves the Habs and could not imagine playing for any other team. He wanted to return from day one and was nervous about free agency. He emphatically was willing to take a one-year deal. He was 10 games shy of 1000 and regrets that. All this expressed in tones without resentment or anger, just disappointment. Obviously MB has a plan to spend that cap space in a way that will improve the team more than adding this 40-point d-man who bleeds Habs red would. Right? Obviously.
  23. Maybe things aren't as bad as.....

    What they should have are quality prospects knocking on the door. We have zero, because our GM is a clown. How we can have one of the most expensive bluelines in the game and NOT ONE elite puck-mover is a mystery sufficient to make Sam Pollock puke in his grave.
  24. Fire Bergevin

    Do you really see this group getting to the Finals?
  25. Habs sign Mark Streit, 1 year, $700,000

    This is self-evident at this point. But the picture may yet change depending on how he uses that cap space. Given his general mediocrity, I'm not optimistic.
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