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1) Mats Naslund 2) Patrick Roy 3) Gaston Gingras 4) Chris Nilan 5) Bobby Smith

35-31-7-8 94 Points 4th in Atlantic 9th in East 224 goals

They should go back to the way Savard and all of his predecessors did it and let the team vote. I'll never understand how the management team think they should decide who the leader in the room is.

Too bad, I wish I could say, "I guess MB knows best"............

If we can't beat this leafs lineup tonight the panic button is going to be going off all over Habs Nation!!!

I would jump all over Poirier. He has some issues with the bottle, but he's still young and worth a look I'd think. Maybe coming home would be the best thing for him.

Couldn't agree more.

I see Hudon penciling in on the left side while Jagr would be on the right, so I don't see him taking a job from Hudon, but rather moving Shaw to 4th line centre and pushing Mitchell to the pressbox, or moving Shaw to 4th line LW. I think he still brings something to our bottom pairings that noone else can. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, and I can feel sour if MB doesn't offer him a deal and you can feel sour if he does.

I think Jagr is simply a better option than anything we have in our system. Jagr put up more points last year in the NHL against top line players (in most cases, best defensive players on each team) than Hudon did in the AHL playing against bums. Why should we assume he'd put up more points in a tougher league against tougher competition? I believe the grave reality is that we simply don't have anything in our system to help us now.

Jagr put up almost 50 pts last year playing on the top line in Florida and the top PP unit most of the year. If we slotted him in on our 2nd line and 2nd PP unit, he would be playing against slower players and less talented players all the time. There is no reason to believe he couldn't put up 60 pts for us. If the money was right, this seems like an absolute no brainer to me. If he'd take a 1 year deal at 3 million, Bergy should be jumping all over him.

Fair enough, I hope not though.

I don't think RNH is a bonafide #1 at all, but surely he would be on our team. Can't see him playing behind Danault

I think he's pretty responsible defensively and is a good playmaker, may just need a fresh start. This was on the All About Habs website this morning so I have no idea if there is any legitimacy to the rumour. I've been trying to find another source but can't. I think this trade with the addition of Jagr makes us better up front than last year and maybe we could score a few goals. Still leaves big questions on the backend though.

I'm hearing rumours (unsubstantiated) that MB may be looking to move Gallagher for Nugent-Hopkins. This could be a real solid move, and we could bring in Jagr to replace Gallagher on the right side. Trade makes sense as Edm need to replace Eberle on the right side and free up cap space going forward and Gallagher would be playing with his buddy Lucic and we need an upgrade down the middle.

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I wonder how many people would change the draft order in 2005? It would be interesting, I'm guessing there are some people (me possibly one of them) that in retrospect would take him #1.

I often think about the fact that we almost traded Price as well. It gives me goosebumps when considering we could have Halak right now. The really scary part is, the return may not have been as good as Eller either. After all, Halak was our starting goalie at the time. Who knows maybe the only reason we kept Carey was because the return was significantly better for Jaro!!! Imagine that.

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I too take satisfaction in seeing Weber shine early and PK falter. I agree it's early but I believe this is what we're going to see. I love the make up of this team, I loved PK when we had him, but I like Shea even more as a fit for the club. Feels like we are maybe one piece away....

Sitting at my hotel waiting for the game. Took the tour today, beyond excited to get to the rink!!

I would tend to agree with you, but if you go into the Weber Appreciation thread there seems to be a lot of Weber bashing for whatever reason. I don't really have an issue with people bashing him and giving their opinions, I just thought maybe that thread would not be the appropriate place to do it. With this one, it just makes it easier for everybody. This could be a place where people could go to vent, because it seems like this discussion makes it into every thread lately. I thought the Weber thread would be a good place to go to just have some positive dialogue, but that didn't really happen. In retrospect this could have been named something a little better!

A perfect place for people to go to complain about Weber and praise Subban. In this thread, real stats don't matter. Weber is not leading the league in +/- and is not tied for 3rd overall in the overall scoring race. In here PK is a legend and does no wrong!!!

Only in Montreal do fans have negative critiques of their team when they start the year 5-0-1.

It's very early in the season and things are going well, so it's easy to say, "Bergevin made a great move and this team is destined for greatness". It's a long season and many things can and will change, however from watching Shea so far this season and listening to him talk, I think this is going to be a perfect match. He seems like a backbone type of player that we needed, he's calm and relaxed and steady. I was young when Larry Robinson was with us and didn't see him in his prime however this is what I remember getting from him. I would have watched Larry in the late 80's early 90's until he was traded and although he was no longer in his prime, he was a steady beast on the backend. I think we just may have that again..........

I still believe MT shouldn't be here. I think we'd be a lot better without him, however adding Shaw, Radulov and Weber make us significantly better. I also like that this is the first year we don't have Desharnais in the top 6 which I think makes us better, Plex finally has offensive minded wingers which makes us better, Gally, Chucky and Nate are one year older and should take a step forward which also makes us better. I will say that a coaching change may be what would put us over the top but we have many pieces falling into place, more so than previous years. That's all I'm saying. I am optimistic, despite of MT.