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Everything posted by REV-G

  1. It may boil down to how you choose to look at things. Fact- the past 7 years we have had highs and lows but the past 3-4 years have been lows. The result was that pretty much all of us were calling for MB's head. Let's put the past few years aside for a moment and just look at today and the next 5 years. 1. We have and are stockpiling draft picks and the result has been very good drafts in 2017 and 2018 and at the moment we have 7 picks for 2019, which will likely increase. Our talent pool has dramatically improved with a bright future. 2. MB did not trade away our future assets or present ones on July 1 for a short term fix. He refused to overpay and give up our future. He walked away from mortgaging our future. 3. Whatever words people choose to use we are obviously in a rebuild of sort and building a young team with very good prospects on the near horizon, maybe a year away, but with more coming. And we didn't try to add an expensive piece or two just to make the playoffs in 2019. 4. Instead of spinning our tires and staying where we have been for the past 2-3 years there is a genuine plan in place to change this team and build a team that will be strong down the middle for many years. 5. When Toronto went through their rebuild they said there would be many years of pain. It wasn't as long as they thought. Granted they had multiple high picks for quite a few years. If we are willing to live through next year when we will likely be at the bottom of the league, I think there is a very good plan in place because we will get a very good player in the next draft and possibly have a shot at the top pick. 6. We have added two young french speaking coaches who are very good at working with young players. 7. With our cap space we will likely be able to pick up players or picks if we use it wisely. MB has done that already with Winnipeg. So I don't think we should complain and fight about next season. We should see it as it is. We're likely going to have a losing season but I think it will be worth it when we see what we likely will have a year from now. We're clearly stockpiling younger players and draft picks and I think our future is bright. There is a breath of fresh air blowing through our team and its future for the first time in a long time. Our march to 25 has probably just started and I like the plan. So for a moment look forward and not back. What do you think?
  2. Yikes, I believe in miracles but not in this case. I'll repeat...at this point I personally have no doubt that MB and GM have a plan. For me it's like we're in two different realities. The previous past 5 years, poorly managed, little view to the future and bad decisions. But now it's like there's been some sort of transformation, like MB has awakened and sees what we've been seeing. I think their plan is obvious and I don't think they're just stumbling along these days making random decisions. I think the results of the past years have caused/forced Geoff Molson to sit down with MB and tell him there must be changes or else he'll make changes. And I think that meeting happened quite a while ago and I think GM wanted to see it on paper, so the plan was devised and it was carefully planned out. That' why I believe GM has stuck with MB. Molson can see a clear direction that he agrees with and that he has genuine hope in, with good people being put in place. That's why I think Molson said months ago, when he was under pressure to fire MB, that MB knows how to build a team. I think the plan was already on paper and Molson had already signed off on it. - It started with last years draft and then this years...very good prospects in our system now. Many years of needs seems to be on the verge of being filled.. - Based on the past two drafts we can see how they're filling in and developing what we need. - Hiring two very good coaches and surely developing them for the big team for the future. Good planning. - I think that the plan all along was not to do much of anything on July 1 because I believe they had agreed that they will suffer through one more year of futility and then begin the 2019-2020 season with a young team that can begin to grow into a genuine contender for years to come. - With the news that Weber will be out another 6 months, they likely knew this before the draft, which solidified their commitment to do little on July 1, and both Shaw and Byron not being ready to start the season, that will open the door for some young inexperienced guys like Noah Julesen and Mete to get needed experience with not a lot of heavy expectation. - We will almost be guaranteed a top three, even possibly the top draft pick next June to add to our young prospects, along with the many other 2019 draft picks we have . So I think what you decide to hope for next year will determine your peace of mind this hockey season. I see the glass half full and being filled higher not emptied. So my expectations for this season is that I will enjoy watching some games, and read about what's going on in the league, watch the Juniors around New Years, but I will not have any hope for the playoffs and therefore no disappointments or complaining about our team. I genuinely want them to get experience but finish very low, or the lowest. I truly believe there is a plan, with good young coaches and players right on the brink, and we have a bright future. I would prefer that kind of reset or rebuild versus going on the way we were....middle of the pack or lower for years, maybe making the playoffs with little hope of beating the top teams. Also, I think at this point I would perhaps sign Max to a long contract if they think there is good possibility that he can have a bounce back year.
  3. Personally, other than signing Tavares, which I think most of us suspected he wasn't coming to Montreal given the position we're in right now, I'm glad we didn't sign Stastny and his 15 or 16 goals. I am quite happy that we're not locking in long term to players that in 2-3 years may be decline. I'm also ok with having a bad team and missing the playoffs next year mainly because of the 2017 and 2018 draft results. I think with what we have now in a young team and what we've drafted this year and last we are going to start to turn the corner with a young exciting team in the 2019-2020 season. If we miss the playoffs next year and are close to the bottom of the league we'll get another very good draft pick and depending on what we get if we trade Max, likely another 1st round pick, we should be positioned to be able to compete and not just make the playoffs. I would have been disappointed if we had given up draft picks to get 32 [?] year old Stastney. When MB made the trade with Winnipeg I wondered if he was helping Winnipeg out to resign Stastney. I have been very critical of MB this year and thought he should have been fired. But "if" he has a plan to rebuild this team through the draft with our mostly young team now, I'm willing to go through another bad year to build a team that should contend for many years. Maybe there's a chance we get a shot at the first overall pick next year!! It is possible!!
  4. Permanent Rumour Thread

    TSN reporting that Montreal is among many teams courting Paul Stastney. 32 years old, last year 16 goals and 32 assists and now a year older. A few months back I thought he might be a decent 1 or 2 year fill in but now I'm wondering. At his age he's going to want term and $. This could be his last contract. 16 goals. Yikes. I'm not sure what other options there are but this is looking less appealing to me. Knowing what we've drafted and the youth that we have, I'd be willing to let this year slide , get a real good draft pick next year and not sign guys like Stastney long term. What do you think?
  5. 2018 draft thread

    I am hoping that the plan is something like, Zadina will replace Galchenyuk and MB will package a player/prospect and whatever else is needed to get another 1st round pick to draft a centre we need. I feel confident for the fact that MB knows his beloved job and reputation is definitely on the line here. If he fails and makes poor decisions and poor trades I think he will be gone sometime this fall and he knows it. Molson has made that pretty clear, things must improve. If MB does poorly Molson will not be able to hold out any longer without replacing MB. That is why I feel confident that we are going to see very good results and a much better team this fall. Plus the new coaches and their input gives me added confidence. After listening to Shane Don's comments I feel like there is a genuine possibility that Max Domi could be a much better player than what he has shown so far. Numbers don't show that just yet but Domi's work ethic at both ends of the ice has the possibility of making us a better team overall. I know thats "glass half full thinking" but I honestly think it's a fair possibility.
  6. 2018 draft thread

    I read in the Gazette today that Pat Hickey suggested that a player we might be interested in further down in the draft, perhaps where our 4 second round picks might begin to come into play, would be Liam Foudy, a centre who plays for the London Knights and is currently ranked around 19th in the draft order. What do you guys think of him? Would he be a good pick? Would he be within reach of us or are there other centre's available later who would be just as good? Who are some of the players that we would be interested in with our 4 second round picks?
  7. 2018 draft thread

    Interesting to note that some of the recent top few draft picks haven't turned out very well. Nail Yakupov was maybe the biggest bust in the past 8 years or so. When Edmonton drafted Jesse P. after he fell to 4th it seems like they thought he was a steal. But compared to Matthews, Laine, and Dubois Jesse has had trouble staying in the NHL. Granted he's still young and has lots of skill and time to develop. My point is that maybe who we think should be #3 and #4 in the draft may not be the best player available. Maybe another player further down the list is the one to draft. Just a thought. Two examples of pre-draft inaccuracies are perhaps Carey Price, supposed to be lower and arguable the best of his draft class. Anse Kopitar, drafted 11 I think, and other than Sidney Crosby was the best in his draft class. If someone had drafted him 2 or 3 they probably would have been criticized. So maybe one of the centres currently rated lower could be great picks. Question: for those of you who follow the junior players and the draft eligible players, do you think there are any Pierre-Luc Dubois players in any of the lower ranked centres this year?
  8. Permanent Rumour Thread

    I think you've made some very good points. I think it's at the very least a waste of time, if not a touch immature [sorry], to make up potential ridiculous moves he might make and ridicule him for those. That's not fair. I have written previously about what I think were the bad moves, PK, Radulov, Markov, losing both Emelin and Beaulieu, Eller [when we were so weak in the middle]. Then signing Alzner, slow and to such a long term, Hemsky, Streit. When I look at PK, Sergachev and Emelin, they would look pretty good on our back end with the young guys we have. Hiring friends and keeping them in positions for way too long. Sticking with people [AHL coaches] that simply weren't succeeding. I think it's fair to criticize those moves. Of course there have been some good moves, Byron, Danault, I personally [in hindsight] wouldn't have made the Drouin trade, but I think what MB was trying to do at the time was correct. It just hasn't turned out very good for us so far. When I add it all up, I have to give MB a low to failing grade compared to what he inherited when he first came. I think CC is right. MB is a very good talker and probably fun to be around. But his body of work up to now is not good. If there are pockets of the old boys club they need to be cleaned out and I think we're seeing that beginning to happen. I think the NHL has moved beyond that and we need to catch up. I think the moves MB made in the past month adding two very good younger coaches is a very good move. But I agree with the above statement. As painful as it might be I think we have to wait and evaluate his moves in late July or August and then we shall see things as they truly are.
  9. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    If Friedman and McKenzie are right then 2 second round picks plus a little makes sense and may do it if they don't want to add any salary. This would be a very good addition for us.
  10. 2018 draft thread

    For those who follow the junior ranks closer, would Zadina be anywhere close the Laine prior to his draft? Just wondering with all the talk of whether we should trade our #3.
  11. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    Could Stasney fill in for year as a #1 centre while we waited for Kotkaniemi, if we dropped down and drafted him lower?
  12. Permanent Trade Proposal Thread

    I mentioned or asked about Kotkaniemi earlier in a thread but as I think about it, is he not 17 years old right now?? He's born in 2000 so he either just turned 18 or will be turning 18 this year. Doesn't that mean he's not NHL ready right now and won't be for a while? If he's our answer for a #1 centre wouldn't that be too long of a wait for us? Don't we need someone ready to step in now?
  13. Dudley Joins Carolina

    If this was the only move, we could speculate as to why it happened. But this is change #4. Heads are rolling, as they should. We would be more concerned, and angry, if there were no changes. We had a devastating season, third last in the league, and Molson has said it's unacceptable. My guess is that Molson has told Bergevin that the status quo is unacceptable and MB knows that if he doesn't make dramatic changes he will be the next one to go.
  14. 2018 draft thread

    If we did choose to trade our pick is there anyone that could be an option? I guess there are two possible paths. 1. Trade for a young centre just coming into their own. But is there even anyone out there that fits that and would be available?? 2. Trade for a Robert Thomas type player. Maybe a team would trade a very good prospect for another really good prospect if the fit for them position wise was better. I agree totally with not trading a 3d pick for ROR. So back to the original question. Is there any young centre we could potentially trade for with our 3d pick, even if we had to add something to it?
  15. 2018 draft thread

    I'm reading and hearing more that because our greatest need is a top centre and that because none are available in the draft that will bring us immediate help, we should trade our 3d pick, and maybe add to it if necessary, to get our greatly needed top line your centre. For interest sake, who could we target, who would be some really good options for us that we could possible get with our 3d pick, plus?
  16. 2018 draft thread

    Don't beat around the bush....say what you mean!! Joking!! Ok, putting him aside then. What do you think of the young centre. Are they out to lunch thinking he might have that much potential?
  17. 2018 draft thread

    Question. I've said before that I don't follow the pre-pro guys, other than maybe the ones who may go in the top 3 in the draft. So my question is connected to a column by Jack Todd [no comments please] today in the Montreal Gazette, where he quotes a former NHL amateur scout, Grant McCagg, also a friend of Bob McKenzie [I added these credentials [?] just to suggest that he may be a credible source] and McCagg says that he and other NHL scouts are high on a very talented 17 year old Finnish centre, Jesperi Kotkaniemi. Grant McCagg suggests that he thinks the Habs could pull a Carey Price type draft day surprise and pick this young centre, even though he has never been mentioned in the top 3. Todd quotes McCagg who says that in the 2012 draft the best pick ended up being centre Filip Forsberg who was taken 11th overall by Washington and later traded to Nashville, who with that trade settled their first-line centre problem for a decade. So is it possible that they're right about Jesperi Kotkaniemi? For those of you who follow these guys closely, what do you think? Is the third pick an obvious, can't do anything else, or could this be a Carey Price type pick? What do you think? Possible or not a chance?
  18. 2018 draft thread

    I wasn't sure where to put this question so I'm asking it here. I read an article in the french paper and they are saying that a number of teams are interested in signing Alexandre Alain, the captain of the l’Armada de Blainville-Boisbriand. I presume he was undrafted?? According to the article he may be a late bloomer who has a great work ethic and could develop into a good NHL'er. The thinking is that he would be a very good AHL player with a definite shot at the NHL if he keeps developing. Any thoughts on him. Should we or are we interested in signing him?? Evidently he scored 44 goals and had 87 points this year. What are your thoughts for those who follow the junior ranks?
  19. Sylvain Lefebvre has been fired

    So the next obvious question is who replaces him? It seems like MB has a great opportunity now to put in place an heir apparent for the head coach of the Canadiens. If finding a very good bilingual head coach is such a challenge the smart thing to do would be to hire the best possible, most successful QMJHL coach and install him as our AHL coach, and let him bring in some great assistants also with future potential, and hopefully have people developing and waiting in the wings for whenever the next opportunity arrives for the big club. You would think this should be an obvious direction to go??
  20. Permanent Rumour Thread

    If we don't get Tavares, and it appears there are not any highly rated, help us now, centres in the upcoming draft, would we get a decent to good #1 centre for Max Pacioretty? Would it have to be Max plus...... Does anyone know who would be some #1 centre possibilities that we might get in return for Max?
  21. 2018 draft thread

    I wasn't sure where to put this, so this seemed the most appropriate place. What do you think about Jake Evans? MB said he wanted to sign him last year and expects to sign him in the next week or so. How strong a centre prospect is he. Where do you think he will slot in in the NHL?
  22. 2018 draft thread

    Pat Hickey in the Gazette today said that only Dahlin is NHL ready, so if we don't win the lottery there's no help coming in the draft. Is that an accurate assessment? Are the consensus picks #2, 3 and 4 not NHL ready? I don't follow the potential draft picks very closely so I'm deferring to those of you who do.
  23. Permanent Rumour Thread

    Question. I read today that TVA Sports is saying that they have some evidence that there are plans for Paul Stastny to join Montreal in the off season. The article also said that TSN broadcaster Gord Miller stated the Montreal would be a very possible destination for Tavares this summer. Evidently Miller has been told that Tavares friendship with Price and Weber, an original six team and the tradition and atmosphere of Montreal are all very appealing to Tavares. Plus on the practical side, Montreal would have the cap room to do it while a number of other potential teams would have to move some major assets to make a Tavares addition possible. Interesting to say the least. But that isn't my question. I don't really follow players not in Montreal very closely so other than his stats I don't know much about Paul Stastny other than he's 32, has maybe underperformed the last few years and has told someone in the media something that would cause them to tweet a prediction that Stastny is coming to Montreal. That's in the TVA Sports article today. Would Statsny be a good second line centre for us for two years while some of our drafted centres [I'm assuming that along with Ryan Poehling we'll draft one or two good centres in the 2018 draft] develop and get ready for the NHL. Would Statsny be a good fit for us compared to what we have now?
  24. While waiting for the final games to wind down, I'm actually hoping we lose every one of our final games, obviously so we can get the best possible draft pick. There's really nothing else to look forward to at this point. So I had this thought. Is there anything Marc Bergevin could do to win us back...to fix his reputation.....is there a path going forward for us that leads to success.....even contending? In fact I wondered if there has ever been a GM who did so poorly over a 5 year term, and saw his team drop so dramatically, and was able to turn things around? I'm not referring to a GM who inherited a mess and built it up, but someone like MB who has made bad moves and trades and then was able to revive that same team? I think there is a path going forward that could change our future dramatically. But let me first say that I understand what I'm pointing out is a bit like catching lightening in a bottle. The odds of everything coming together according to the path I'm suggesting is way out there. But it's possible. Kind of like Edmonton getting the first pick for so many years. So here it is. Remember, this is possible, however unlikely, but there is a path that could lead to a huge turnaround for us. Here it is. What if we lose most of our final games and then win the draft lottery and improve to the top 3 and get a very good player who will play for us next year. Certainly possible. What if we add Joel Bouchard, as is being reported, and also added Dominique Ducharme, or someone like him to bring in fresh leadership and begin a new culture. One of them as our AHL coach and the other to replace JJD or even as GM with MB being moved up to another position. Certainly possible. What if we sign John Tavares? Ok, here's catching the lightening in a bottle. What if we kept Max P and united him with Tavares and Drouin? What if we signed or traded for a top 4 left handed Dman? What if, combined with our draft last year, we pick up a few very good prospects in the draft this year? What if the terrible season we had this year lights a fire under Molson and Bergevin, like a slap upside the head, and they realize that the fans, media and players are all looking at them to fix this mess whatever it takes. We're certainly there on that one! Maybe there's more but if these changes or something close to them could happen I believe we would see a huge turnaround. Honestly, I think all of it is very possible. The only real big question mark is of course Tavares. But the islanders have had a very bad season. And even the media has openly talked about the possibility of him having friends on our team and maybe him liking the idea of coming in and being part of a resurrection, along with a big payday, back in Canada. I heard Darren Dreger say a month ago that while Tavares has never said anything to him, he has the feeling that Tavares would be open to coming to Montreal. Has he heard something. Now this next thought is purely speculation. We have all been very surprised, along with the Montreal media from what I've read, that Molson has not fired MB based on his record and the state of our team. Is it possible that MB has told Molson that he has inside news that Tavares is seriously considering signing with us. Why is Bergevin so confident about being here? Does he know something big is going to happen? Tavares?? Speculation....but is it possible. It is. So there is a path. It could happen. I wouldn't bet on it but there is a path going forward. could MB turn it around and win us back?? What do you think? Since there's not a lot else to talk about I thought this could give us something interesting to ponder!!
  25. Choosing which players to keep and which ones to send down or trade is sometimes obvious and other times not so much. I haven't been watching their games for a while now but I still read about them and follow. I'm actually hoping they lose all their remaining games to try to be in the top 3 for the draft and the lottery. One observation I've made is that there have been a number of reporters who made the comment that the team enjoys and is confident playing in front of Niemi. When I've watched a game he seems confident and seems to be challenging shooters and makes the big saves. If I was the decision maker I would seriously consider keeping him as my backup next year for the following reasons. 1. He has performed better than Lindgren in front of basically the same team over the past few months. 2. At this point we are not totally sure how Carey Price will do injury wise next year. I think we had the same feelings about Markov when he injured his knee for the second time a few years back but he came back strong and healthy and played at a high level again. We all want that for Price but we all know there's no guarantee. If Price is injured again next year who would we want as our back up? Niemi or Lindgren? 3. Reuniting Niemi with his former goalie coach, Stephane Waite may be one of the reasons for his great return to form with Montreal which means he may play this way for all of next year again if the two stay together. 4. We must make sure that we are better at every position next year. If we add a #1 centre [John Tavares??] and if our top draft pick this June is high enough so that he makes the team next year, we have to make sure we have a very solid, reliable backup to help Price and win some games but also be able to step in if injuries hit. I think Niemi is best equipped right now to do that for us. 5. I had higher hopes for Charlie Lindgren. I know some goalies take longer to develop but I'm beginning to wonder if he will develop into a #1 goalie. At this point I'm not sure I want to put too much faith in him to be able to step in and do the job if Price goes down. 6. Why release a goalie [Niemi] for nothing when he either could help us or if we kept him around until next fall, then trade him and get something for him when some team likely will be in need of a solid backup. To me it's just smart asset management. If Lindgren steps up and does well, then we will have something that some other teams need and we'll get something in return. For me it's a win win situation to keep Niemi and let things fall where they will. Releasing him and letting him walk for nothing accomplishes nothing. What do you think?