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I think Pezzetta would bring more like a 6th/7th rounder back, but agree with you about Savard.

Pezzetta is simply not good enough to play on a good team. Doesn’t matter how hard he tries or how tough he is, he isn’t the answer to the Canucks needs. The Canucks could use a big tough Dman like Savard. But even than he wouldn’t be used like we are using him. He’d be the bottom pairing dman on the Canucks. Could the Canucks use more toughness? Absolutely. But they would be better served in getting a guy who can play hard on the top two lines. Someone like Horvat. Could the use more toughness on the third, 4th lines? Sure, but like I said, Pezzatta is not the answer - he is not a legit NHL player on a good team. He simply is not good enough of a hockey player. He’d have the same impact on the Canucks that Ryan Reeves is having on the Leafs. Zilch.

You seriously think Pezatta is the missing piece the Canucks need to win the cup??? Really?? Really?

What had Gignac done to you, that you want to punish him so badly!!

At the start of the year, I dint think it made sense to send Anderson down - we had to hope that he turned things around and increased his trade value. At this point I think we should send him down. At least at the start of the year, it looked like he was trying SOMETIMES, now it looks like he is just collecting his pay check, but isn’t even trying to earn it!

Probably and he’ll no!

There’s leafs fans I grew up with that felt Sittler got 10 points in a game so that proves he was the best player in the NHL, and that Palmateer was a much better goaltender than Dryden🙄

Why should he have to fight for that???

That’s fine. But it doesn’t mean you cross check in the face for doing it. Have an issue, next year try and beat them 10-0.

And Matthews scoring and waving his hands to fall fans is not disrespectful? I don’t have an issue with either, but this code stuff is bullshit! Would also have been disrespectful if he skated to the goal and let as much time pass as possible until the dman came over and than tapped it in? If Reilly has an issue, don’t be soft and let them score!

We need guys who can score. He had 15 last year and has 12 this year. We’ve hit some guys who look like they can be decent playmakers, but only one real sniper in Caufield and hopefully Slafkovsky can be another. If we are going to give up high picks and top prospects it needs to be for finishers.

You know Friedman in one of his broadcasts made a comment that Lamirello tends to hire coaches for their 2nd job, and has had success - we tend to hire too many rookie coaches. I don’t mind the MSL hire - given our current situation, but next time I’d like to hire someone who’s already learned from their mistakes than continue to be a training ground for coaches.

Agreed. It would be a huge regret if Roy outscores him in two years. I certainly wouldn’t want to take that risk.

Oh, ok, gotcha. I’m not sure I’d want to move a first pick and a prospect for a 25 year old who may be nothing more than a Joel Armia type of guy.

Not sure why we are in a hurry to throw around first round picks+ for a guy who MAY score 20 goals this year, but hasn’t scored more than 15 yet. I certainly wouldn’t move one our top forward prospects like Roy or a first round pick for him. Form our D prospects, the only guys I’d be willing to move is Harris.

Do you mean the Sabres? I wouldn’t want to include Roy in the deal. Hasn’t scored 10 goals yet and is from the Andersson draft. I’d rather see if Andersson can play. If it’s just Harris - Sure. If Sabres want more size and grit in addition to Harris, I’d be happy to throw in Josh Anderson😁

Yes., and I’m sure the Flyers regretted that deal. Even on a one for one deal, on way would I move Forsberg for Lindros. Forsberg won everywhere he played. Lindros not so much. Forsberg - 2 Stanley cups, 2 Olympic golds, Calder, Hart trophies, art ross. lindros - Olympic silver (lost to Forsberg), Olympic gold, 2 WJC, Hart trophy

I’d take Forsberg over Lindros every time. If you want to talk about compete factor as a criteria - Lindros may have the size, but doesn’t come close to Forsberg in heart, drive, or skill. Both had their careers cut short by injuries, but Forsberg was not only the more complete player, he was also the more skilled player.

The Flyers traded the smaller Forsberg for the bigger, stronger Lindros. How did that deal work out for them? If we win the lottery, we should be taking the smaller Celebrini.

I’d rather do that as well, but with the top 5 picks, you should be going after a can’t miss top line forward, or top pairing dman.

I hate the draft by need approach. Last year was a forward heavy draft and we passed on Michkov and Leonard. This year if a dman is clearly better than the available forwards, I’d still take the dman.

No question. But the point is he wasn’t just a tough player - he was a highly skilled player, who was a top 5 player in his era, and one of the all time greats. Just a horrible comparison when making a case for Florian.

Messier does not have elite skill??? Did you ever watch him play? Ditto with Perry and Tkachuk. All three have toughness, but all are HIGHLY skilled and ELITE players.

You’re not getting it. It’s not how long it took someone to become a 30 goal scorer in the NHL, it’s how they produced their junior career. Ryder scored 34 (draft year), 44 and 50 goals in juniors. Martin St Louis went through the college route and scored 15, 23, 29, and 24 goals during his college career he also had over 80 points in college. He wasn’t drafted because of his size, but was a very skilled and productive players. ita ridiculous comparing Florian to them, or to a top 5 pick like Makar.

The question is though do they try and go for it if Sergechev is out for the year? Before the injury thought Tampa was a potential landing spot, since they may roll the dice one more time before Stamkos’s deal is up. At the start of the year they didn’t want to commit to him, so next year could have been the start of a rebuild - I think Hedman is also up the following year.