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  1. 19 hours ago, illWill said:

    Re: Tavares

     

    Mr. Lovett, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent responses were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

     

    Billy Madison is one of my favorite movies

     

    Middle school humor meant for small minds. Maybe you ought to write fart jokes on your own time instead of burping up your daily dose of baloney on here?

     

    "Duhhhh...faith in Bergevin...duhhh...Carey Price yo...duhhh Shea Weber's ma boy...duhhh."

     

    Did I come close to what you do on here, moron?

  2. I don't know how you argue someone is a PPG player when he's only gotten a PPG four years out of eight, and not come close in the last two years?

     

    I guess Zetterberg is a PPG player because he has 904 points in exaclty 1000 games. Spezza, too. 862/912. Hey, with that logic, let's just give the 8.5 in cap space to Jagr!

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  3. 14 minutes ago, Link67 said:

     

    First off you are going off-course, I disputed the claim about me, personally where I "Classically Exagerated" when I said 

     

    Which is exactly what the stats I posted immediately after your incorrect claim about me, showcased loud and clear. And in response to that you come up with some "but I said this afterwards and it is also correct" Hoopla? It is irrelevant in its complete form, you made a claim about me and it was wrong, I proved it with stats that line up exactly with what I SAID, and had nothing to do with what you were going to say, that's all there is to it.

     

    Can anyone explain to me how someone says "Player A is a clip under a PPG his whole career because he has a career PPG of 0.91" and would be considered Exaggerating by any stretch of the imagination? Doubtful..

     

    "Classically" exaggerated? I didn't know you wrote in Latin or Attic Greek. I can't even read to the bottom of this. Time to refresh the ignore list...

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  4. 1 hour ago, Link67 said:

    is 537 points in 587 games not a clip under a PPG as I suggested? are the stats exaggerated? Because they equate to  0.91 PPG, if that isn't the epitome of a clip under a PPG then please enlighten me as to how I am classically exaggerating.

     

    Although I had a feeling he was close to a PPG player his whole career, I still went and did my homework before making the claim in my original post, perhaps you should have done the same instead of now knowing what the front half of your foot tastes like, unpleasant I imagine.

     

    2009-2010 82 games/54 points

    2010-2011 79/67

    2011-2012 82/81

    2012-2013 48/47

    2013-2014 59/66

    2014-2015 82/86

    2015-2016 78/70

    2016-2017 77/66

     

    I said:

     

    "Tavares had four or five years out of (8?) that are PPG."

     

    That is exactly correct. If you based your claim on career points instead a season by season tally you're using the wrong methodology. Since you know, we're talking about how many seasons he was PPG.

     

     

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  5. 16 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

     

    I'm not slagging him. I'm just suggesting that it would be good to have some understanding of why he's seen a 20-point drop in production over the past three seasons, before we go and anoint him the Saviour. A 66-point C is great and all, but that's quite different from "averaging a clip under a PPG his entire career." Which JT would we be getting?

     

    Where Are They Now? 

     

    2011-2012 Edition

     

    Claude Giroux-94

    Jason Spezza-84

    Ilya Kovalchuck-83

    Henrik Sedin-81

    Patrik Elias-78

    Ray Whitney-77

    Maria Gaborik-76

     

    2012-2013 Edition

     

    Martin St. Louis-60 points

    Eric Staal-53 

    Mike Ribeiro-49

    Pavel Datsyuk-49

    Claude Giorux-48

    Hank Zetterberg-48

    Tavares-47

    Andrew Ladd-46

    Henrik Sedin-45

     

    The list gets better as the years go on, but you get my point. I don't remember half of these players being dominant. Four or five years out on a Tavares deal could get really stinky.

     

    "His whole career" is classic Link67 exaggeration. Tavares had four or five years out of (8?) that are PPG. 

     

    Don't get me wrong, I've seen him take over games. But the time to sell the store was 2014.

     

  6. We're going to be like Maple Leafs fans in a few years. I'll never forget in 2014, the Laffs were playing the Panthers after the Olympics. They showed a clip of the Canadian players skating their after winning the gold, and many Leafs fans stood up and clapped and yelled and whooped it up for a proxy victory. The Laffs burped up a 3-0 lead in the 3rd and fans brought paper bags to wear over their heads. I can't even remember if the Leafs had any players on that team? But any win is a win. I suppose if Tavares got traded here, we could root for Tavares to be the best center like we do with Price, or the Sens with Karlsson, or the Leafs with Matthews. 

  7. What does Tavares have to show for his entire career? Carrying the Islanders on his back in the first round vs the Florida Panthers?

     

    Or, like Evander Kane, Keith Yandle, and the other rumor mill stalwarts, is he supposed to be as good as Crosby and McDavid just because he's available? 

     

    I can picture a day...far off into the future on a wooded lake in a forgotten town around July...Carey, Shea, and Tavares talking about the time of their lives at the cabin...those two tournaments in the Olympics on a heavily favored team that went all the way. Oh, the memories! 

  8. 1 hour ago, JoeLassister said:

    Personally, I would not use players' value to Team Canada  in order to compare them.

    It doesn't represent NHL teams at all.
     

    For example, Team Canada is build in a way that it doesn't require you to dress that many puck moving dmen as pretty much 75% of forwards are good/awesome/stupid good at it.

    Same with the usage of Subban.  Doesn't reaaaaally need him when every pair already include a puck moving dmen. Put Subban on USA's roster and see if they keep Erik Johnson or Matt Niskanen.

     

     

    Plus it's just the opinion of one coaching staff and there are three HOFers in front of Giroux on Team Canada.

  9. 15 minutes ago, DON said:

    Nice very low risk deal.

     Alzner has never missed a game in his career.

    Played 82, 82, 82, 82, 48, 82, 82 in last 6 yrs, so what is the injury history you are babbling about?

     

     

    He's talking about the number of injuries he had last year. Injuries that caused him to miss game 7. He talked about it in many interviews he gave after the year, including a hand injury history that sounds degenerative. Get Bergevin's wang out of your mouth, you meathead.

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  10. 11 hours ago, Link67 said:

     

     

    "Dangling" a top pair Team Canada Dman for a fringe 4th line team Canada center, come on man you can't possibly think so little of Weber can you? that deal just plain and simply makes us worse and offers no cap relief or anything. Imagine this current D without Weber, Imagine this PP without Weber, imagine Petry forced to play 25+ min a night against the best of the best night in and night out.

     

    our movable assets lie on the wing, if the dance partner has different needs and the pieces don't fit, you have to move on and explore other options.

     

     

     

     

    What the hell does Team Canada have to do with anything?!

  11. 24 minutes ago, Scott462 said:

     

    Interesting.

     

    I am relatively uneducated on the Panthers organization so thanks for the info. Hopefully they can pull themselves out of the landfill they seemed to of slipped into here.

     

    Me too! If they don't, the lease is up around 2025. By then, the arena will need significant upgrades. There's a lot of conflict down here between the beach lobby and the Panthers lobby on the Broward County board. They've been subsidizing the Panthers with some of the tourism taxes, and the beach people are arguing they deserve more. I agree with them, if I'm being objective. The team did well last year and in the 2nd half of the season beforehand. People down here don't show up to bad teams. I haven't been to a Marlins game since I moved five years ago.

  12. 4 hours ago, Scott462 said:

    They also lost a 30 goal scorer for nothing in the expansion draft and took a swing on a guy like Dandonov who Brian is not too sure about.

     

    ...and they lost him to make sure Vegas took Reilly Smith. It's looking like they have an internal cap, per Frank Seravelli.

     

    They made a lot of stupid moves last summer, and then fired Gallant over a presumed conflict of interest with the computer boys.

     

    Bolland's Deal/Lawson Crouse for Johnny Capspace

    Rocco Grimaldi for Reto Berra

    Gudbranson for Jared McCann

     

    They've thrown away quality young depth and prospects like Brandon Pirri, Quinten Howden, Logan Shaw, Kyle Rau, and Connor Brickley. When you add it up, they've swapped out 7 or 8 pieces and lost on every piece.

     

    These are clearcut losses. They ended 2015-2016 as a solid playoff team that greatly overachieved, but had a great young corp that was on it's way up. Now they have an empty cupboard and a bubble team.

  13. 2 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

     

    Yep...when I describe what actually happened, it looks 'worse.' But more important than what actually happened is what MB's intentions were. :rolleyes: And hey, maybe every last possible thing will break the Habs' way in 2018, in which case it's all good, right? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Good thing the NHL isn't a results-based business or MB might be in trouble.

     

    Why don't you just admit that

     

    (a) this team was better off with Sergachev and Radulov on an overpay than with Drouin and nobody else. In other words, this particular set of GM decisions made the team worse off.

     

    while pointing out that

     

    (b) the team has lots of cap space, so MB is presumably not done yet, and therefore we still have to wait and see how things plays out.

     

    The case for MB's summer activities has to rest on (b) IMHO. Not on a bunch of good intentions and hypotheticals.

     

    Four hypothetical situations (on the offense alone) to improve a team that bowed out in the first round.

     

    The Panthers are in the same boat with their offense. They have three players, and two that are injury prone, (Barkov, Huberdeau, Trochek) that they need 60-70 points from, or it's hard to see how they make the playoffs. Then Tallon went full-MB with a cotillion dance of KHLers, rookies, and discount UFAs to color in the lines.

  14. Doubt it has anything to do with the environment. If it were the American climate mullahs ordering the increase, the cost would be 5k, and the Habs would get a billion dollar subsidy for their good intentions.

     

    The truth is that paper tickets are easier to scalp and sell on third-party ticket websites like StubHub. The Panthers started to release their season tickets through an app for this reason.

  15. 13 hours ago, Link67 said:

     

    Weber, Markov, Petry, Alzner, Schlemko and even Benn, are all very reliable at the crisp first pass game, i'm not sure where you guys are going with this unless you mean who in that D is going to carry the puck, at which point Petry is pretty well the only one who will actively do it most often. 

     

     

     

    What I mean is that we're in for another season of dump and chase, counter attack off the trap, and blow-the-zone footraces. Nobody can carry the play. This always works out well until the time of year when teams make game plans to shut down an offense...at which point the Habs offense looks about as dangerous as a tufted titmouse.

     

    Jeff Petry is a 25 point guy with great vision, especially on the powerplay. He's never been a catalyst for an offense, and I wouldn't expect him to become the 40-50 point, 25 minute a night dman every good team needs.

     

    Think:

     

    Pittsburgh-Letang

    Chicago-Keith

    San Jose-Burns

    Ottawa-Karlsson

    Nashville-Whole top-4

    St. Louis-Pietrangelo

    Tampa Bay-Hedman

    Columbus-Werenski

     

    We get 40 points and the minutes out of Weber, but he gets more than half his points on the powerplay.

     

    This is where I get concerned about Claude. The moves of the last deadline gave me more than a whiff of "zombie Bruin-ism." If they're trying to rebuild a 2011 Boston, we're in for some terrible hockey.

     

     

  16. 41 minutes ago, Scott462 said:

     

    They also needed a steady defender for the top 4 to play with Petry who is more of a puck mover. Last year Petry more often than not had to be the steady defender for his pairing, now he might have the chance to do his thing knowing Alzner has his back.

     

    I don't know which player is supposed to move the puck? They have guys like Weber and Alzner that make a good first pass, but to whom? Phillip Danault? 

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