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  1. 2018 NHL Playoff Thread

    All I know is that if Vegas does win the Cup, nobody in history will ever believe it wasn't rigged.
  2. Joel Bouchard hired as head coach of Laval

    He was also a finalist in Minnesota losing the job to Chuck Fletcher. And as I've told before, Ray Shero offered him a spot as AGM in Pittsburgh in 2006, as McGuire was a groomsman at his wedding. McGuire turned it down because he didn't want to leave his TV job for anything less than an NHL GM position. The guy Shero hired because McGuire felt the job was underneath him? Chuck Fletcher.
  3. 2018 NHL Playoff Thread

    Here was the Panthers expansion protection list. Yandle is the only player who had to be protected: Aleksander Barkov, Nick Bjugstad, Jonathan Huberdeau, Vincent Trocheck, Aaron Ekblad, Keith Yandle, Mark Pysyk, Alex Petrovic and James Reimer.
  4. Joel Bouchard hired as head coach of Laval

    The best example is Pierre McGuire. Knowledgeable, worked under Bowman and was praised, and was made coach/assistant GM. He is one of the worst coaches in history according to everyone in Hartford and who played for him. Used to throw temper tantrums after games. Bowman never took him back when he went to Detroit. He went to Ottawa as an assistant and never got another NHL coaching gig. Went to the ECHL and then nothing. There is also this gem: In 1995, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman ruled that McGuire would forfeit half of the remaining salary owed to him by the Whalers for providing confidential coaching evaluations that had been prepared while employed by Hartford to the Edmonton Oilers.
  5. Joel Bouchard hired as head coach of Laval

    The idea of former NHL players you remember seeing play being management is alluring. When I lived in Kingston it was great to see Doug Gilmour coaching the team, until you realized how bad he was at it. He laughed when I told him he was a better Hab than Leaf.
  6. Joel Bouchard hired as head coach of Laval

    Bouchard was part of my argument that if we're going to favour French Canadian staff, we certainly haven't been hiring the best available. The last two hirings of Ducharme and Bouchard are actually trying to get the best French Canadian minds on the team.
  7. Joel Bouchard hired as head coach of Laval

    I want to have some faith in this organization in the long term. Molson making these decisions would do that. Bergevin is the walking dead at this point in my eyes.
  8. Permanent Rumour Thread

    As someone who was vocally negative about Cam Fowler, let me be clear: If Cam Fowler didn't go to the most perfect situation for his career (his freaking last name is FOWLER) he might have busted. Fowler didn't just get a few tips from Scott Neidermayer. He lived with Neidermayer. Neidermayer was his defensive coach and made him his number one priority for the Ducks. Neidermayer helped Fowler out on the stuff that was his biggest issue in the OHL. He used to lose track of the puck and glide on pure physical ability. Neidermayer taught him a lot about defence I didn't know was in him. I've eaten cro...fowl on that one, but at least I know why.
  9. Joel Bouchard hired as head coach of Laval

    This is a very good move, long overdue, and hopefully it was Geoff Molson's decision.
  10. Markov is a Champion. Is Subban next?

    What's funny to me is that Patrick Roy had his own charity not associated with the team (Ronald McDonald House) and had teammates who hated him, and got traded after the worst game of his career, and everyone knows that trade was a terrible idea. The team had a good season without Roy and finished Top 10 in most categories before losing to the... Rangers. Oh my. But nobody gives Houle and Corey the excuse of oh he was bad for the locker and a change was needed. But make it Subban? Make it a not terrible return? Suddenly having a small issue with Gallagher and maybe Pacioretty is a good reason to trade him. Or it's obvious this has everything to do with people that never really liked Subban and will defend it for any reason. They just wish Subban gave them one.
  11. Markov is a Champion. Is Subban next?

    I guess you forgot about Price and Galchenyuk meeting him in the Nashville locker before a game, and the articles about Markov and Galchenyuk talking about missing him (Subban and Emelin were at Markov's wedding): http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/hockey-inside-out/canadiens-notebook-alex-galchenyuk-still-good-friends-with-p-k-subban
  12. Permanent Rumour Thread

    Yeah, I'm not buying anything anyone has to say about Tavares and who his teams are until he's in the window of taking interviews with teams. I don't believe he's coming to Montreal at all, but I wouldn't believe even Bob McKenzie on anyone knowing. John is a private guy. He hasn't revealed a thing. He isn't accidentally liking Twitter posts like Stamkos did. It's fun to speculate but I don't believe Dreger for a second about the list until we start hearing about appointments.
  13. Markov is a Champion. Is Subban next?

    The trade will be Bergevin's legacy. He traded a very popular player for a player with a better reputation in a trade that had nothing to do with what the club needed to get better. By even the supporters of the trade it is looked at best like a lateral move. You don't win with an at best lateral move. The player isn't the problem. The mindset behind ever making the trade is. There was absolutely zero reason for it. And every move Bergevin has made since has been from this mindset, and it's why the club is so fundamentally flawed. It still would have been if Subban was here, but it would have been easier for some folks to continue holding onto the hope that maybe this team just has dealt with 2 1/2 seasons of bad luck in 3 years. So yes, if the team still has Subban, the team is still bad. But with Subban, there isn't as much of a desperate need for a puck moving defenceman, because we at least have one that can carry an offensive drive. We still need two top four LD, but we could get away with a 20-25 point top four D in one of the slots. These constant lateral moves put the team without something and a little less as a team. This is the trade Bergevin tried to make to be his statement: we're going for the Cup. We just acquired Shea Weber. So far that's been a legitimate failure.
  14. Markov is a Champion. Is Subban next?

    I guess you forgot that Bergevin said the attitude problem started before the team played a game. Which would include Weber. But again, I agree with the Joe Morrow's that it's Bergevin making excuses and not something he actually knows. The first time Julien contradicted Bergevin was on this. "Attitude" and "Character" are just buzz words. The whole reason people say Weber's influence is exaggerated is because it's treated as a major reason to have a Shea Weber on the club. He's supposed to be a mythic leader. That's not Weber's claim. That's the claim from people trying to make Weber seem more valuable than he is. He's a well respected hockey player. That's it. The locker hasn't turned around with him being there but anyone thinking it would was just buying into the hype. Any award for leadership with Messier's name on it shouldn't be taken serious. Fact is, if anyone says "personality issues" is a reason for the trade, it was in Nashville's favour. They have been 100% positive about him. Say he's a major part of the locker. Laviolette loves him. To remove Weber and add Subban to Nashville, it seems like a team with a lot more unity. Not saying that's because Weber was a problem, but he certainly didn't seem like a solution.
  15. Markov is a Champion. Is Subban next?

    Goals per game average 16-17 and 17-18 (regular season) Weber: 0.22 (2nd) Subban: 0.18 (5th) Assists per game average: 16-17 and 17-18 (regular season) Weber: 0.34 (37th) Subban: 0.49 (15th) Points per game average: 16-17 and 17-18 (regular season) Weber: 0.56 (23rd) Subban: 0.67 (11th)