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  1. Max Domi is a 12th overall pick in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft. In his post draft year he put up 93 points in 61 games for the London Knights. He had a strong rookie year with 18 goals and 52 points, but his numbers have declined since. In the following two seasons, he put up only 9 goals each season (9 in 59, 9 in 82) but last season he had a career high 36 assists. Alex Galchenyuk is a 3rd overall pick in the 2012 NHL Entry Draft. In his post draft year he put up 61 points in 33 games for the Sarnia Sting. His best season so far was 30 goals and 56 points in 82 games. Max Domi has 36 goals in his NHL career. When you compare their last two seasons: Domi: 141 games, 18 goals, 65 assists, 83 points Galchenyuk: 143 games, 36 goals, 59 assists, 95 points Basically: Domi has to find his rookie season numbers again while Galchenyuk just needs to outplay Dylan Strome for the 2C position. Failing that, the top LW in Arizona is Richard Panik, so he could take that spot pretty easily and still be a top line player. If Domi still can't score 10+ goals in a season, he shouldn't be anywhere near the top line.
  2. Max Pacioretty traded to Vegas

    We also have 17,000 wingers.
  3. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

    He had a 10 team no trade list. Edmonton might have been on it. They certainly were not one of the favourites like Dallas and Tampa.
  4. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

    I would contract the team and award Ottawa an expansion team so long as they find a new owner. Do a draft for their players and start fresh.
  5. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

    Yeah if we trade Weber this summer I think we could get a better return than this.
  6. I'm just saying it hasn't been as bad as when Bergevin was trying to contend. When it was clear the 17-18 season was a bust Bergevin was angry and then he looked dejected and that's been his natural reaction since. The Galchenyuk trade was still dumb and we haven't seen enough guys replaced from Marc's golf crew but I don't feel the same as when Marc was the clear driver. It isn't an endorsement. Just an observation. I think Geoff wants to be hands on so when he picks a future GM he actually knows what the job involves and won't leave the next candidates to Bergevin and McGuire. Or maybe he's going to be control hungry and be like Richard Peddie and JFJ. I don't know, but the damage control process has been fine for the most part. Much better than I thought it would be. As for liking the Pacioretty trade I'll just pop this question: what was the last time at the trade deadline a team got back a player with the ceiling of Suzuki and drafted as low as he was?
  7. The only moves in 2018 I have disliked are the Galchenyuk Domi trade and drafting Kotkaniemi. Everything else has been out of character for Bergevin and been good returns or acquisitions for us.
  8. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

    And the Cup. Absolute robbery.
  9. I was listening to Pierre LeBrun on some radio show (it was a TSN show) and they were discussing the fact that Molson is very hands on at this point, and possibly the most hands on owner in the league. That Bergevin is just doing what Molson wants at this point and that's why he still has a job.
  10. Could our lineup look like this

    Armia is 205. Domi is listed at 198. Danault listed at 195. Scherbak might break 200 by opening night. It's light but they will be good little grinders with Domi, Shaw, Armia, Deslauriers, and Gallagher buzzing around. Eating at a couple buffets ain't gonna win this team any games.
  11. Max Pacioretty traded to Vegas

    Best friends with Paul Stastny. That's interesting. I guess it made sense he'd eventually land there. What Pacioretty said about it being the right time to leave was certainly correct. Could not figure for the life of me why anyone wanted him to stick around right now. Some were surprised at his contract length but only Marchesseault has a year longer Hope it works for him.
  12. Max Pacioretty traded to Vegas

    Because he didn't do anything. The proof is history. I don't care how hard you tried. You didn't get it done. We don't gauge GMs on intent. He did not get a centre when the team was a contender. He was content with Desharnais. That's the history of it. End of story.
  13. Max Pacioretty traded to Vegas

    It was Bergevin who decided to stand still in the summer of 2014 after his team got to the ECF. It was Bergevin who decided to stand still in the summer of 2015 after his team had the second best record in the league. He could have added a centre. He could have added a real 1RW. He could have fired Therrien for a better coach. Instead he did nothing until 2016, when his big decision was to subtract Subban and add Weber.
  14. Max Pacioretty Watch

    If it was truly a problem (it isn't) the NHL could just factor tax difference into the cap. I don't think the owners have ever given it thought. This is the stuff bad teams complain about. California teams pay high taxes. Didn't stop the Kings and Ducks. Didn't stop the Sharks from making the final. Low taxes certainly haven't helped the Oilers or Flames either.
  15. Max Pacioretty Watch

    Thought we should have a thread for this. Today, Max Pacioretty fired his agent Pat Brisson. Brisson said it was mutual because of course he would. Pacioretty then immediately hired Allan Walsh, who doesn't have the greatest relationship with Bergevin and the Canadiens (though he does represent Drouin.) There was then a rumour that Montreal was going to make a big trade with San Jose. Bergevin was seen talking to Walsh for 10+ minutes, and soon we heard that there was no trade. Are these signs that Pacioretty is soon out the door, or signs that Pacioretty could have been unhappy with Brisson and wanted a new agent to make his next contract? This is the second agent he has fired in his career.
  16. Poll: Who should be Captain?

    Toronto has Tavares and Marleau and the Golden Knights just got somebody's captain, but otherwise I see what you mean. Problem is, how can you name an injured captain? If they would, Markov would have been captain in 2010. The players would more than likely name Weber, but they really shouldn't have a shot to. Go without a captain during the rebuild, see who emerges. Weber would be a sensible choice until you think about how much he actually wants to play for this club.
  17. Poll: Who should be Captain?

    Eight teams currently have no captain, with the Leafs going into season #4 without one. The only one that will probably fill the role before the season begins is Buffalo, and possibly Arizona.
  18. Habs Rookie Tournament/Camp Thread

    Also he did this once
  19. 2018 NHL Offseason Thread

    I expect Pat Verbeek to follow him to Detroit as he was more his right hand man.
  20. There were no good candidates. Now that BriseBois is out they might be either grooming Timmins or see who else is available.
  21. Poll: Who should be Captain?

    I think I went to pick Youppi! and picked Byron instead haha. Team vote is what got us Carbonneau/Chelios splitting the C and Pacioretty. Of course, the issue with Pacioretty is nobody could pick Carey Price, who everyone felt was the real leader of the team, and allegedly nobody could pick Andrei Markov. There were reports he refused the C, then he denied that, and there were reports when they chose captain they couldn't name him. In hindsight, Markov should have been named captain in 2010, with alternates for when he was hurt. Either way, he was the leader of that locker room until Price matured, and even then he was the real leader on the ice. Everyone respected him and looked up to him. I hope Markov writes a book one day, because there's so much that just doesn't smell right with Markov's career with the Habs now and I wonder what it was.
  22. Next summer with the new GM: trade Weber to the highest bidder willing to take him with no cap retained (we will take a bad contract back but no salary cap retained on Weber), trade Price if an offer comes that makes sense. Make sure you get either first round picks or high prospects in the return. Do that, and by 2020-2021, we might be ready to compete again with a great young core.
  23. McCarron re-signs

    My hope was Ryane Clowe. Depends on if he's allowed to use his abilities in the corners and in front of the net with a new coach or if he will still be resigned to goon in the post goon era role that Lefebvre wanted.
  24. Max Pacioretty traded to Vegas

    Yup, he netted a third round pick in 2021, a second round pick in 2019 (which will likely be in the 55-62 range since Vegas will still be very good) and a first round pick in 2018, which was a 30th overall pick. He also had term with three more seasons, which is why he was valued by Vegas. He didn't work out in Gallant's high forecheck and backcheck system since he's more of a pure offence guy. If you want an argument there, yeah, we should have traded Pacioretty when he still had three years left on his contract and his value would have been sky high. This trade got a second round pick from Columbus in 2019 (which I've addressed will likely be between 31-38 since the Blue Jackets are about to implode from Bobrovsky and Panarin looking like they are planning to leave), Tomas Tatar (who could have a bounce back season and be worth more picks in the future), and a 13th overall pick in 2017. We were *never* getting a pick that low from a trade deadline move. I had said before I saw no way, no how we were getting Vilardi from LA for Pacioretty and we got a guy drafted just two spots after. Who also has centre potential (but in talking to some OHL fans he sometimes takes faceoffs then plays the wing, the reverse of what Galchenyuk did in Sarnia, so the Habs might see him as a right handed LW more than a centre) but more importantly has top line offensive potential. Could we have got more at the deadline? It's possible. But the reason we got Suzuki is because Pacioretty intended on signing an extension. At the deadline he's just a rental. And we got a much better return than what Rick Nash got as a rental. Or McDonaugh. Or Stastny. Or Shattenkirk. Or Hanzal. Or Staal. Or Ladd. Suzuki, a 2017 13th overall pick, is worth more than any of the first rounders or prospects those teams got. And while Tatar struggled heavy in Vegas after being traded there, he still has five straight 20 goal seasons and a 19 goal season before that. So we downgraded from a consistent 30 goal scorer to a 20 goal scorer while also getting a 19 year old who has put up back to back 40 goal campaigns and had 100 points last OHL season and the Chicago Wolves trusted enough to play in their elimination game. I think Molson (who is calling the shots now and nothing Bergevin does is without his review and say) and Marc Bergevin got probably the best return they could with Max Pacioretty, and deserve credit for that. Had Pacioretty not been traded now, he would have been a pure rental. And at a pure rental, you're not getting a low 2nd round pick, a 27 year old multiple 20 goal scorer with value to trade in the future, and a 19 year old 13th overall pick. It doesn't happen.
  25. Max Pacioretty traded to Vegas

    That's great and all. I just watched more clips and game footage of him and I don't see Top 10 prospect. I'm not going to judge him on a dumb rookie tournament but the more people see him, the less praise he gets. He definitely feels like a second half bloomer who benefited from his position in a draft weak at centre.
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