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Machine of Loving Grace

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  1. On 10/11/2018 at 10:24 AM, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

    I hated it when you had to be a behemoth to play hockey. I'm loving the league's general direction - and frankly advanced stats seem to have done more to advance the cause and root out the dinosaurs than anything else.

     

    It's fun to pull out copies of 80s NHL and see teams flying out there with firewagon hockey. And then the fun stops when some team is basically given full permission to try and murder those players with head shots and slashes. 

     

    Friend of mine had a tape, I think from 1992 or 1993, of the Penguins absolutely running circles around teams and the best those teams could do would be to literally grab onto Jagr or Lemieux to stop them. That was all they had. Basically barehug them and hope they can't stickhandle through it. That's why I don't blame Pavel Bure at all for being a cherry picker. Cherry picking meant there wouldn't be some useless defenceman hanging off of him when he took a shot. And you still saw countless times some defenceman swinging Paul Bunyan axe bombs at him when he's ready to shoot at whatever goalie is in net.

     

    This stuff is usually forgotten. Most of analytics was just reminding people of what good hockey looks like when referees actually call what they see and penalize players properly.


  2. 1 hour ago, dlbalr said:

     

    The Habs would have to cap their offer at five years at that rate if they wanted to stay at the 1/2/3 level.  Those would all be RFA years too which would be a tough pill for the Leafs to swallow.  That's also a pricey cap hit for the Habs (or any team that wanted to offer sheet him) to take on without buying out any UFA season.

     

    Tough pill but losing him for that package would be much worse. 

     

    More likely they trade him for a blue liner.


  3. 45 minutes ago, dlbalr said:

    What's your proposed contract for him?

     

    Something around $8M would be a tough pill for them to swallow but they would match it to keep him as a 1/2/3 wouldn't be fair to them for Nylander.

     

    I would rather wait for Matthews though. I would easily offer a Max contract that expires right when he is to become a UFA. 


  4. 42 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

    Honestly, if Ottawa folds, I wouldn't cry over it...unless they move to Quebec City, of course 😲😲😲

     

    They got prelim plans for a new arena in LeBreton Flats. That will solve some issues. The real issue is Melnyk. And if he keeps running the worst circus in the league, I expect him to be pushed out. The league likely knows at this point they have an ownership issue and not an Ottawa issue.

     

    Things seem ridiculous with the Sens but they are not 31st for cap hit and not the worst in the league last year for attendance. The longer Melnyk is there the worse things will get, but I think the league would rather contract the Sens and then give them an expansion not owned by Melnyk than move Ottawa to Quebec City. 


  5. 3 hours ago, dlbalr said:

    So someone in Ottawa's organization thought it would be a good idea to drop some beach balls from the rafters yesterday.  Considering they dropped the ball on the Karlsson trade, is this their theme for the season?  On the other hand, the balls could have filled some of the empty seats...

     

    When it rains it pours... beach balls.


  6. 30 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

     

    No good. Bergevin would trade it for a Edsel.

     

    Best case scenario: he gets a free buyout from the next lockout

    Average case scenario: he does one of those swaps where he gets a player that costs more per year but has a shorter contract, like for example Andy Greene.

    Worst case scenario: He trades him for Brent Seabrook


  7. 14 minutes ago, BCHabnut said:

    Ah. I didn't see that.  Banning them makes no sense at all then. I just assumed people were abusing them. In fact,  I know a lot of people who play games to unwind and distract. If controlled they can be very good as a decompress. Now instead of games until midnight, it will be booze probably. 

     

    I just assumed they had a problem.  D sorry. 

     

    The rumour is that Juolevi, a Canucks prospect, was a gaming addict. Banning gaming in the locker is expected to be a message to him and future Canucks players. 

     

    But again, if for some crazy reason the Canucks got Sidney Crosby, is Bo freaking Horvat gonna tell him to stop playing SoCom? All to keep up some chest beating locker rule?

     

    I get your view on this, I honestly do. But if a player is a gaming addict, you get him help. You don't give him a reason to hide his problem from you. If a player is a drunk you don't ban drinking. You get that player help. Treating videogames like some locker room no no will just amplify the problem.


  8. 12 minutes ago, BCHabnut said:

    I'm 45 years old so more in the old school demographic.  But I play a lot of video games.  Sometimes I get out of hand.  I used to play counter strike for hours.  To the point that the guys on my server are basically my friends.  It's easier to lose control with gaming than it is with cards. If guys are out partying till all hours, teams often enforce curfews, or make changes to curb the behavior.  Gaming can be very addictive and should be curbed if its out of hand.  

     

    Playing cards leads to gambling. There have been several players and management who have had gambling addictions, including Jagr. There is also alcohol addiction, pain medication addiction, and sex addiction, all of which people say are wrong but little is ever done to curb it. All of the recent player suicides and overdoses where players were hooked on pain medication were pretty much ignored or supported by the medical staff of the NHL clubs. That actually kills people. Videogame addiction is barely a problem compared.

     

    Laine was right in saying this is just making excuses for the Canucks sucking last season. Create a scapegoat and claim you're doing something to fix it. They probably learned that from Marc Bergevin, though he'd never ban videogames with all of those trades he does on his Playstation.

     

    11 minutes ago, Trizzak said:

    Wasn't it the players and not the management that made the call about videogames?

     

    That's the claim, which even if true, it's stupid. It's a bunch of guys thinking they are being old school. 

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  9. 35 minutes ago, Habopotamus said:

    Young, millionaire athlete. That could get any girl he wants. Is up until 4am because of Fortnite... am I missing something here?

     

    You touched on the hypocrisy of it. People are fine if our athletes are out having sex and drinking because it's their business. But play some videogames late and it's wrong and has to be stopped.

     

    It's forgotten now but Sidney Crosby and Marc-Andre Fleury are big gamers, particualrly SoCom, and have been playing it throughout all the Cups and awards Crosby has racked up. Hasn't been a single issue for them. But Fortnite becomes popular and a couple prospects go overboard on late nights playing it and it becomes a story to the point where the Vancouver Canucks are banning videogames. I'm glad Laine slapped them for that.

     

    I'll just end with this. If you're gonna ban videogames? Ban cards. No card playing for anyone, including management. You make that the ultimatum? That game ban dies fast coming from the GM. The old codgers can't survive the road without cards. Which is a GAME.


  10. 10 minutes ago, Commandant said:

    Cap.friendly had it as a slide candidate before he signed but i see that is off now.

     

    They've been slipping lately. They were wrong on Tatar having no NTC when he said he waived to goto Montreal. I won't hold it against them, they do good work and I'm worried that if the people who run it get scooped up like almost every other site like it, we'll be back to using NHLnumbers. 


  11. I've had to repeat it before but Tampa originally structured their expansion draft around keeping Drouin. They didn't want to trade him. They didn't know what depth they had at the wing position and how much losing him would hurt. Montreal made the offer, and had been trying to get him for a while, and Yzerman wasn't convinced on Sergachev and was worried he'd be waiting for years for him to be ready. That's why he asked for a 2nd round pick if he didn't play the next season for 40 games.

     

    So what might have looked obvious to us wasn't to them. 


  12. 29 minutes ago, Habopotamus said:

    Look at the rest of the top 6. I think they'll manage 

     

    Centre depth is fine and will be fine for years. Just interesting that they lose Nylander and only have two top six calibre wingers for the lineup. That's a gamble. Same with Ron Hainsey on the top defensive pairing. Woof.


  13. 9 minutes ago, BCHabnut said:

    It's true.  2 years ago,  leafs were mediocre. Anderson was garbage.  Last year leafs were quite good. Anderson was vezina caliber. The  Season hinges more on his play than anything.  Imo

     

    Like I would say they probably have the best centre depth in the league. And Andersen is a good goalie. But when you look at their wingers it's bad. I know Nylander is out due to contract talks but without him their only legit wingers are Marleau and Brown. That's rough. Like, Tyler Ennis with Matthews should never ever happen.

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