Peter Puck
-
Posts
1472 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
7
Posts posted by Peter Puck
-
-
Originally posted by Mont RoyaleOriginally posted by marky_and_komi
he's now 9-9-3-1 with 3 SO thus far this season
???
The article says it was the first shutout this season.
Check the date on the article and the posts.
-
Originally posted by CoRvInA
Sorry to keep this ghost in the closet... but Corvina here speculating of course...
My question is... And PLEASE frogive me if this was answered already! If the jackets trade Hainsey this season .. Habs still have to pay half his salary?
The answer is yes. I had a reference when I checked this in October. Maybe I'll try to track it down.
-
Originally posted by ~moeman
Well kidz, the moeman has himself a hottie of a new g/f. She's not a big hockey fan but wants to be 'educated' in all things Habs.
She's deliciously gorgeous and I'll be enjoying her company (and her mine). Come Saturday I may be single again.
Will we have a new HW member, "moeman's gf"? If so she has some big shoes to fill if she wants to live up to the standard set by Macaskills gf.
-
Originally posted by Bulis_the_HabbieOriginally posted by Peter PuckOriginally posted by les_glorieux
actually, since it was taken off by a defensive player, it should have counted, as it did.
When you say it "should" have counted. I presume you mean according to the rules and not just morally. If so can you provide a reference to the relevant rule? I have take a look through the rules and can't see why it counted. All I can find is a rule that allows a goal when the net is off if the defence *intentionally* knocked the net off.
The commentators said it should count because the goalie (Garon) and not the Kings D-man knocked the net off. I can't find any justification for this in the rules either. Of course, it would have been a travesty if they had disallowed that goal.
The goal against the leafs should have counted as the net did not come off and Markov did not impede Belfour. I have no idea why it was disallowed. Other than conspiracy theories, I can only think the ref thought Markov collided with Belfour.
The goal the Oilers scored against the Bruins is more complicated. The net did not come off so that is not a concern. The Oiler forward did collide with the Bruin goalie but this is allowed since it was not intentional and since he scored on a rebound. The puck went into the crease first - an offensive player is allowed to follow the puck into the crease and if he has "incidental" contact with the goalie this does not nullify the goal. Thus I think the rules call for that goal to be allowed.
It was intentional if you watch Conroy closely. And he was probably joking but he had this to say after the game when talking about the goal counting:
"I guess I probably should have knocked the net off harder."
Thanks, BtH. I didn't notice that. It certainly explains why they would count the goal.
-
Originally posted by les_glorieux
actually, since it was taken off by a defensive player, it should have counted, as it did.
When you say it "should" have counted. I presume you mean according to the rules and not just morally. If so can you provide a reference to the relevant rule? I have take a look through the rules and can't see why it counted. All I can find is a rule that allows a goal when the net is off if the defence *intentionally* knocked the net off.
The commentators said it should count because the goalie (Garon) and not the Kings D-man knocked the net off. I can't find any justification for this in the rules either. Of course, it would have been a travesty if they had disallowed that goal.
The goal against the leafs should have counted as the net did not come off and Markov did not impede Belfour. I have no idea why it was disallowed. Other than conspiracy theories, I can only think the ref thought Markov collided with Belfour.
The goal the Oilers scored against the Bruins is more complicated. The net did not come off so that is not a concern. The Oiler forward did collide with the Bruin goalie but this is allowed since it was not intentional and since he scored on a rebound. The puck went into the crease first - an offensive player is allowed to follow the puck into the crease and if he has "incidental" contact with the goalie this does not nullify the goal. Thus I think the rules call for that goal to be allowed.
-
Originally posted by Ribeiro
And both of those guys are players who nobody wants on their team, so what's your point? There's a reason why TO was suspended for the year and why nobody came looking for Latrell's services when his contract ran out.
The Eagles had no problem picking up Owens and his attitude after his antics in San Francisco. They even kept him after his whole contract fiasco. Jerry Jones wants Terrell Owens on his team right now.
The Houston Rockets, Los Angelos Lakers, Denver Nuggets, and Miami Heat have all expressed interest in Latrell Sprewell. ESPN and various other sources have reported that he declined the Rockets since they can't meet his financial desires, and he does not want to be a reserve on the Heat.
So much for your, "nobody wants them", theory.
The NHL doesn't need any more Joe Sakic robots during interviews, "We tried our best. We will give 110%. We made very good plays. We thought the other team played well. We tried hard."
Players with attitude like Roenick and Ribeiro, get attention, and the problem with the NHL is that they don't have enough attention from Americans.
He didn't even say anything that bad. If Koivu had said something like that, you guys would just nod and agree. But Saku isn't Quebecois, and there seems to be hatred against RDS, Theodore, Ribeiro, Brisebois and everything Quebecois on this forum.
This is just throwing accusations around. It is entirely unfair to say there is hatred of everything Quebecois here.
People have been complaining about Ribeiro's play because (up till 3 days ago) he hadn't been playing well. It may be that Ribeiro's comments attract media attention and make interesting reading. However, they harm the team and he richly deserves to be criticized for them.
P.S. I find it strange that you complain about people hating Quebecois yet use Don Cherry for your avitar.
[Edited on 2005/12/4 by Peter Puck]
-
I find Murray's choice of words very interesting. He says:
"I've never done anything like this in my f***ing career ..."
He doesn't seem to be claiming his innocence in this fight. On the other hand it would seem to be hard to defend his actions. He moved Chara up to forward, and Chara goes after the guy right off the faceoff.
-
Originally posted by Bulis_the_Habbie
We knew all along that the best we could is 4th thanks to Ottawa. But why should we drop in the standings? The injured players are returning so we should become our old selves again. The only reason why we might dorp is becaus we're not playing any games so the other teams will get points while we do nothing.
This is my point. We are only 2 points ahead of 8th place right now and the next game we play is next Saturday. Thus we will be passed by some of the teams below us. When the injured players return I expect we will return to the form we showed in October, i.e., winning a number of close games.
-
We're in 4th place now as we have been for a few weeks. I think it's clear that we can't expect to finish higher than 4th.
We could be in 8th by the end of next week and will probably drop at least as far as 6th or 7th. I expect this will generate more calls to trade everyone but Koivu.
I'll take this opportunity to urge some restraint. We're going to fall in the standings and it's not going to have anything to do with the quality of our play.
edit: spelling
[Edited on 2005/12/4 by Peter Puck]
-
Originally posted by TrizzakOriginally posted by Bulis_the_HabbieOriginally posted by JeanLucPilonOriginally posted by Trizzak
Habs blow early lead
Hits on Avery wildly cheered
Sniper Dags First Star!
ooooo close, but not quite.
So desu ka? I dunno how "Avery" is pronounced, I guess it's A've'ry? -- thought it was A'vry
haiku no goo! *Whack from bamboo stick*
What?
The Haiku format is:
5 syllables for the first line
7 syllables for the second line
and 5 again for the third line.
JLP thinks Avery is 2 syllables, but I think Avery is three syllables, thus making JLP's second line 8 syllables and not a Haiku. He would then deserve every whack from that bamboo stick. :nono:
One thing we can all agree on however, is that thank god the Habs broke their slump. I would have accepted any kind of win at this point (and it seems that they decided to go with their patented, tried and true 3 - 2 nailbiter brand.)
Seems to me like you're going to have to pronounce Avery in 1 syllable to make that 2nd line total 7 syllables.
-
Originally posted by gohabsgo252006
Hey Peter,
I'll take it on the chin this time, but i was only saying tha IF you wanted to send a message to someone, benching him with the whole team injured would probably do it....
I agree though it was a good thing
Hi ghg,
Didn't mean to pick on you
Actually, after reading Riberio's quote, I think maybe he should have been benched.
-
Originally posted by Trizzak
So...please save me from reading 29 pages and tell me the highlights.
In a nutshell, its a good thing they didn't bench Dagenais and Riberio tonight (subtle dig at gohabsgo252006 for post he made yesterday).
Dagenais scored 2 on feeds from Riberio. The first was a great shot.
In between LA got 2 sort of cheap goals and we went to the third tied.
On a PK half way through the third, Begin blocked a shot and went in on a breakaway chased by the LA defenceman followed by Bullis. Begin made a move on Garon and then dropped the puck to Bullis. The LA d-man crashed into Garon and they both fell into the net. This provided Bullis with the opening he's been waiting for all season and he put the puck into wide open net. Then we played defensive hockey for the last ten minutes. Habs win 3-2.
[Edited on 2005/12/4 by Peter Puck]
-
Actually I think he played better Thursday than he did tonight albeit without scoring. But definitely the past two games have been by far his best of the season. Still he needs to keep this up for a long while if he wants a chance to play next year.
-
Yup. I've defended him in the past but that remark cannot be excused. We have to trade if for whatever we can get if only to show Ryder that we appreciate him.
Unbelievable.
-
Originally posted by jetsniper
People actually keep track of stuff like that?
o_O
You mean you don't?
How can you call yourself a knowledgeable hockey fan?
-
Gretzky holds the record of 23 games for consectutive games scoring a point beginning with the first game played with a new team.
Some might say this is a somewhat obscure record.
[Edited on 2005/12/3 by Peter Puck]
-
I would much rather trade a goalie Huet or a prospect (not Price!, not Theodore) than Chipchura.
We could trade Danis but I think it might be better to wait a few weeks and hope Huet plays well. I believe he has value, we can get by with Danis as a backup and there are teams looking for a goaltender. I wonder how much we could get for Huet if he does play well after his injury.
-
Originally posted by smon
He was taken by Anahiem because they were supposed to take him in the Fedorov trade. Columbus was handicapped financially when he refused to go to Anahiem and invoked a no-trade clause.
Yeah, Bonk had more offensive upside. But with "new" rules, he's got no goals in 20 games..Marchant's stats arent' too bad, +3 on a bad team, 3 goals and 12 pts.
He was taken by Anaheim because they wanted him. They tried to get him in the trade but he vetoed that as you say. Columbus put him on waivers and Anaheim got what they wanted.
-
Originally posted by gohabsgo252006
wanna real a send a message to Ribeiro or Dagenais or both.....Bench them now...I think that'll send it to them loud and clear
If we bench one or both of these guys, who do we play against LA? We already have Koivu, Kovalev and Bonk out with injuries.
Plus Ribero and Dagenais both played their best game on the season yesterday. What message would benching them tomorrow send? :?-
-
I am expecting her to post a message after we beat LA tomorrow night saying how sorry she is that the Habs lost to the leafs in overtime.
When I first saw her thread I thought it was someone suggesting that we "really" won last Saturday against the Leafs because of the bogus disallowed goal.
-
Originally posted by Howie_MorenzOriginally posted by bebehabs
ok... i just wanna know WHY this BOSTON thread is in the HABS section???
it should be in the NHL section~~~~
A good question. My answer would be OOOPPPSSS....
Yep. My bad. :?- But this does (temporarily) keep "Habs talk" as the forum I most often post in.
-
The more I think about this the more I see Boston sinking. This trade doesn't even help Boston's cap situation all that much. Here are the cap numbers:
Sturm: 2 million/yr
Stuart: 1.9 million/yr
Primeau: 1.1 million/yr
------------------------
Total: 5 million/yr
Thorton: 6.66 million/yr
[Edited on 2005/12/1 by Peter Puck]
-
Originally posted by Bulis_the_HabbieOriginally posted by Peter Puck
The Bruins have traded Thorton to San Jose for Marco Sturm, Brad Stuart and Wayne Primeau!!!
To me this smacks of panic in Boston. I think SJ won this trade.
Woah! Unexpected! I thought you were joking or something. HUGE trade.
I think Boston wins. They get a strong defenceman, a decent checker and a good forward. Is Sturm a center? If not their first line has deteriorated. If not then it's all good. It definitely hurts San Jose though. They traded their team for Joe Thornton.
Yes Sturm is a center. He is okay, never really lived up to his promise. Stuart is a pretty good D-man abd Primeau is a career grinder (a pretty good banger). But ... there is no way this package is worth Thornton, one of the top centers in the league. I can't believe they couldn't get more. I don't believe Boston offered Thornton to many teams.
-
The Bruins have traded Thornton to San Jose for Marco Sturm, Brad Stuart and Wayne Primeau!!!
To me this smacks of panic in Boston. I think SJ won this trade.
Edit: spelling
[Edited on 2005/12/1 by Peter Puck]
Sergei/Siarhei Kostitsyn OHL rookie of the month
in Habs & Hockey Talk
Posted
Kostitsyn Jr. has been picked OHL rookie of the month for the month of November. He was also rookie of the month for October. Here is the article
He has 16 goals, 29 assists for 45 points in 28 games. He is +7 with 32 pim. He is 12th in league scoring and the second highest rookie is John Tavares with 31 points in 29 games and who is -9.
Matt D'Agosini is 25th in scoring with 12+25=37 points in 30 games. He's +9 with 36pim.
:ghg: