Peter Puck
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4 games was more than I ever thought DOP would give but it is fair.
I think this is going to make it hard for Winnipeg to win the series. It hands them a great excuse for losing and many players will find it hard to play hard. Its just easier to say to yourself we are losing because of the league suspended Sheifele. The Jets will really have to buckle down and get this out of their heads if they want to win.
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We have a winner: Habsfan84
Habsfan84 predicted 27-22-3-4 for 61 points which was a pretty accurate. Like everyone else his prediction overestimated the Habs final points.
The team finished 24-21-8-3 for 59 points.
Habsfand84 predicted 4th in the division and 15th in the league.
The Canadiens did finish 4th in the division but only 18th in the league.
Habsfan84 has predicted a 2nd round loss so we may get by the Leafs.
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Something I find interesting about this is that the league did nothing (at least publicly) when a ref was heard telling Gallagher that he didn't
call a penalty because the infraction was committed against Gallagher.
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29-19-5-3 for 66 points.
2nd in the Canadian divison
10th overall
161 goals for
129 goals against
Habs lose in the Stanley Cup semi-final
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6 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:
Isn’t that how Gainey lost Hainsey? I think it was similar with Beachaman - or that could have been the expansion draft. Getting too old to remember!
6 hours ago, dlbalr said:Off the top of my head, Hainsey was re-entry waivers and Beauchemin was during the lockout as they were trying to send him down to get some playing time (and it was before players were allowed to sign AHL-only deals). But there weren't any NHL teams playing at that time whereas now there are so neither one is really comparable.
We lost Hainsey at the end of training camp one year when we had to choose between either sending him or Mark Streit down. There was lots of criticism at the time since Streit was an 7th round pick and Hainsey a 1st round pick. I think in retrospect that they made the right decision.
At the very least, with the benefit of hindsight, its a very close call.
If people want to criticise the team for losing Hainsey they should recognize that the Habs had essentially no choice in this.
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The 15th Annual HabsWorld regular season prediction contest.
Hall of Fame:
2006-2007 Jean won with a prediction of 92 points when the Habs finished the year with 90 pts. If only we could have won that last game.
2007-2008 Adirondack Bud exactly predicted our final total of 104 pts.
2008-2009 Zowpeb won by predicting a strong start followed by a slower 2nd half ending with 99 points. The Habs finished the season in 8th place with 93 points. On September 22, 2008 Zowpeb predicted "I think we'll see a rough patch just past the mid-year point..." Wow!
2009-2010 Joelassister correctly predicted the Habs would finish with 88 points.
Honourable mention to kaos who predicted a season record of 39-34-9 (87 pts) while the Habs finished 39-33-10.
2010-2011 Chips produced the all time best prediction. His preseason prediction of 44-30-8 for 96 pts 6th in the East, 14th in the NHL was exactly correct in every aspect. That amazing feat will be hard to duplicate.
Honourable mentions went to Seb whose excellent prediction of 44-30-8 for 96 pts. 5th in east, 13th in NHL came up just short; and to Peter Puck who also correctly predicted the Habs would finish with 96 points.
2011-2012 sakiqc
Our fearless leader won with his prediction of 37-34-11 for 85 points. The Habs record was 31-35-16 for 78 points.
Honourable mention went to Habsfan who correctly predicted that the Habs would score 212 goals.
2012-2013 illWill won by predicting the Habs would finish with a record of 27-16-5 for 59 points.
The Habs finished 29-14-5 for 63 points.
Honourable mention to PMAC and to former champion Chips who both predicted the Habs to finish with 58 points.
2013-2014 Meller93 exactly predicted the Habs final record 46-28-5-3.
Honourable mention to thehabbit who correctly predicted the Habs final point total and just missed getting their record exactly right.2013-2014 nihliz predicted 50-23-5-4 for 109 points. In fact the Habs finished the season 50-22-5-5 for 110 points. Honourable mentions went to nhfarberwho predicted 49-23-4-6 for 108 points and to sakiqc who predicted 51-26-1-4 for 107 points
2015-2016 Chris predicted 40-30-8-4 for 92 points. The injury ridden Habs finished the season 38-38-3-3 for 82 points.
2016-2017 The Habs finished the regular season 47-26-7-2 for 103 points.
Using tie breakers:
thehabbit had the winning prediction when he predicted 47-25-5-5 = 104 pts and
Honourable mentions to kaos and Bluecross.
kaos predicted 46-26-6-4 = 102 pts
BlueKross predicted 46-24-6-4 =102 pts.
2017-2018 The Habs finished the regular season 29-40-7-6 for 71 points.
All the predictions were bad but the least bad was by
Dalhabs who won by predicting 42-30-6-4 = 94 pts.
2018-2019 The Habs finished the regular season 44-30-8 for 96 points and 246 goals.
The prediction contest came down to the last game of the season, indeed down to the number of goals scored in that game.
The winner was
BCHabnut predicted 42-27-6-7 (97 points) and crucially 248 goals.
Honourable mentions go to:
Dalhabs 42-30-6-4 (94 points)
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illWill 42-29-7-4 (95 points) 243 goals.
2019-2020 The Habs finished the pandemic season 31-31-9 for 71 points in 71 games.
The winner was
illWill predicted 39-36-2-5 (85 points).
Honourable mention to:
tomh009 who predicted 0-0-0-82. Unfortunately for posterity tomh009 also predicted 40-32-10
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2020-2021 edition
Same rules as last season.Predict
a) what the Habs regular season record will be: wins-losses-OTL-SOL
b) in what place in the North Division the Habs will finish
c) in what place in the league the Habs will finish
d) the total number of goals the Habs will score this season (including 1 goal per shootout win).
The winner will be based upon the most accurate prediction of the Habs final points.In the event of a tie bonus points will be awarded for getting the number of wins, number of losses, number of OTL's or number of SOL's correct.
The latter three predictions will be used successively to break ties.
The season is planned for 58 games. In the event that fewer than that are played the Habs record will be pro-rated to 58 games.
The decision of Peter Puck is final.
Don't forget to separate overtime losses and shootout losses.Entries due before puck drop on Wednesday Jan 13 4 at 7:00pm EST.
Good luck.
Thanks to GHT120 and tomh009 for pointing out that there is no Atlantic Division this year and for correcting the number of games in the shortened season.
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Here's a happier memory of the late 80's Habs.
In 1986, I was living in Boston and the Habs and Bruins met in the best of 5 opening round. Lots of talk in Boston that this was going to be the year the Bruins finally snapped their long playoff series losing streak versus Montreal. Montreal won the opening 2 games at home and Boston fans were still expecting the Bruins to take the series to 5 games. I got tickets to the third game at a packed Boston Gardens.
The Bruins were ahead 3-2 going into the third. Gainey scored early to tie it up and then he scored again with about 11 minutes remaining. The crowd turned on the Bruins and starting booing incessantly. This discombobulated the Boston players and they couldn't do anything right. This further infuriated and emboldened the crowd and caused them to boo more loudly. The second half of the third period consisted of the Bruins fumbling around against a Habs trap and the furious crowd jeering every mistake. I kept thinking, "this game isn't over - its only a one goal lead". But with the crowd hounding them the Bruins couldn't string two passes together. It was surreal! A treasured memory for me.
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I can't believe the Habs finished another season ahead of the leafs.
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39 minutes ago, dlbalr said:
Fill in the blanks - Friday's Lotto Max numbers are: __, __, __, __, __, __, __
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I think many people underestimate the advantages of winning this series and maybe one or even two more.
Of course, winning playoff games is great for the experience of our young guys but there are many other considerations.
If we lose does that increase the chance of Price asking to leave? If so it really reduces our future cup chances.
If we win one or two rounds, I think many free agents will see a team on the rise. Getting one or two quality free agents (or even keeping our own) would have much more effect than chosing 9th vs 16th. A loss to the Pens cements us as a bottom 8 team in many minds.
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I really find it hard to criticize Bergevin for Mete. We took a somewhat small 4th round D-man and got a guy who is a definite NHLer.
I see no evidence at all that he would have turned out better if he had spent 2 more years in the AHL. Sure maybe he could have improved some of his skills in the minors. But maybe he would have stagnated there and ended up being a career AHLer. Claiming that he would have been better than he is with more AHL time is just begging the question.
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Both Kovalchuk and Thompson loudly saying how much they appreciate the way they were treated by Bergevin. This is worth a lot to us since it sends a message to players around the league that they will be well treated if they sign here. Screwing this up enen once (eg Cammalari) can have a lasting negative effect.
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To me, it will be a success as long as he doesn't make any big mistakes. The only guy we need to trade is Nate Thompson. The Habs are in a good position for the trade deadline - they don't have to make any moves. Lots of other teams are under big pressure to make a trade for the playoff run. We shouldn't do anything that isn't clearly a good move for us.
If we trade any one of Tatar or Petry or Domi we should hold out for a very solid return. If other teams won't pay that Bergevin should stand pat until the summer. The worst thing would be to make a questionable or bad trade just to try to win the deadline.
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Okay, I'm going to ignore the novice, hockeyrealist, and hope that he learns some manners.
Why did Kovalchuk sign with us? Was it to earn the 400K he will earn over the second half of the season? I agree he might be playing to in order to earn a contract fror next year. But it seems at least as likely that he is hoping to compete in this year's playoffs and maybe win the cup.
None of the top teams was willing to sign him in early January and we were. So he signed with us. I think when he did that he probably told Bergevin that he wanted to play for a contender. From Bergevin's point of view that is fine. He gets a player to fill in for our injured players and he gains the possibilty of picking up another draft pick at the deadline. Its win-win.
No matter what happened when he was signed, if Kovalchuk wants to be moved at the deadline there isn't much Bergevin can do. If we hang onto him against his wishes he won't resign with us. Having Kovalchuk for the last half of the season probably doesn't get us into the playoffs - it likely just reduces our draft position.
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I think people are overlooking a key point here. I think its very likely that Kovalchuk signed here after receiving assurances that we would trade him at the deadline to a contending team (if he performed). That's why he signed a minimum contract. If that's true we will need to trade him to keep him happy. Maybe he would be willing to resign here but I don't see Bergevin having much latitude here,
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People were always screaming why can't Bergevin get us a #1 centre. Why can't we swing for the fences instead of playing it safe.
When we pick KK, all of a sudden it's why didn't he take Tkachuk or Hughes? It seems fans want him to swing for the fences but also to hit a home run every time.
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4-0 final.
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I really like this move. Probably it will amount to nothing: Kovalchuk will suck and we will send him down and his contract will end up being terminated. This is the most likely outcome and it cost the Habs basically nothing.
All the other outcomes look pretty good for the Habs. He could recover his game a bit and provide a few PP goals. If he looks even remotely productive I suspect some playoff bound team will trade a 4th or a fifth or even a third round pick for him. We could even retain 50% so even a cap trapped team could afford him. Hell, I bet even the Leafs could fit him under their cap at the deadline.
This is a zero risk move that probably leads no where but could yield some nice bonus for us.
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Folin is listed as both a scratch and playing on the third pair. Do we know who Kulak is playng with?
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43-28-5-6 97 points
4th in the atlantic
6th in the east (1st wildcard)
253 goals
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The 14th Annual HabsWorld regular season prediction contest.
Hall of Fame:
2006-2007 Jean won with a prediction of 92 points when the Habs finished the year with 90 pts. If only we could have won that last game.
2007-2008 Adirondack Bud exactly predicted our final total of 104 pts.
2008-2009 Zowpeb won by predicting a strong start followed by a slower 2nd half ending with 99 points. The Habs finished the season in 8th place with 93 points. On September 22, 2008 Zowpeb predicted "I think we'll see a rough patch just past the mid-year point..." Wow!
2009-2010 Joelassister correctly predicted the Habs would finish with 88 points.
Honourable mention to kaos who predicted a season record of 39-34-9 (87 pts) while the Habs finished 39-33-10.
2010-2011 Chips produced the all time best prediction. His preseason prediction of 44-30-8 for 96 pts 6th in the East, 14th in the NHL was exactly correct in every aspect. That amazing feat will be hard to duplicate.
Honourable mentions went to Seb whose excellent prediction of 44-30-8 for 96 pts. 5th in east, 13th in NHL came up just short; and to Peter Puck who also correctly predicted the Habs would finish with 96 points.
2011-2012 sakiqc
Our fearless leader won with his prediction of 37-34-11 for 85 points. The Habs record was 31-35-16 for 78 points.
Honourable mention went to Habsfan who correctly predicted that the Habs would score 212 goals.
2012-2013 illWill won by predicting the Habs would finish with a record of 27-16-5 for 59 points.
The Habs finished 29-14-5 for 63 points.
Honourable mention to PMAC and to former champion Chips who both predicted the Habs to finish with 58 points.
2013-2014 Meller93 exactly predicted the Habs final record 46-28-5-3.
Honourable mention to thehabbit who correctly predicted the Habs final point total and just missed getting their record exactly right.2013-2014 nihliz predicted 50-23-5-4 for 109 points. In fact the Habs finished the season 50-22-5-5 for 110 points. Honourable mentions went to nhfarber who predicted 49-23-4-6 for 108 points and to sakiqc who predicted 51-26-1-4 for 107 points
2015-2016 Chris predicted 40-30-8-4 for 92 points. The injury ridden Habs finished the season 38-38-3-3 for 82 points.
2016-2017 The Habs finished the regular season 47-26-7-2 for 103 points.
Using tie breakers:
thehabbit had the winning prediction when he predicted 47-25-5-5 = 104 pts and
Honourable mentions to kaos and Bluecross.
kaos predicted 46-26-6-4 = 102 pts
BlueKross predicted 46-24-6-4 =102 pts.
2017-2018 The Habs finished the regular season 29-40-7-6 for 71 points.
All the predictions were bad but the least bad was by
Dalhabs who won by predicting 42-30-6-4 = 94 pts.
2018-2019 The Habs finished the regular season 44-30-8 for 96 points and 246 goals.
The prediction contest came down to the last game of the season, indeed down to the number of goals scored in that game.
The winner was
BCHabnut predicted 42-27-6-7 (97 points) and crucially 248 goals.
Honourable mentions go to:
Dalhabs 42-30-6-4 (94 points)
and
illWill 42-29-7-4 (95 points) 243 goals.
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2019-2020 edition
Same rules as last season.Predict
a) what the Habs regular season record will be: wins-losses-OTL-SOL
b) in what place in the Atlantic Division the Habs will finish
c) in what place in the East the Habs will finish
d) the total number of goals the Habs will score this season (including 1 goal per shootout win).
The winner will be based upon the most accurate prediction of the Habs final points.In the event of a tie bonus points will be awarded for getting the number of wins, number of losses, number of OTL's or number of SOL's correct.
The latter three predictions will be used successively to break ties.
The decision of Peter Puck is final.
Don't forget to separate overtime losses and shootout losses.Entries due before puck drop on Thursday Oct 4 at 7:00pm.
Good luck and may the Hockey Gods have mercy on your soul.
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Sorry I'm late. I am just doing it now.
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I see lots of people demanding MB make more changes since he hasn't really improved the roster this much off-season. I'm confident MB is trying but I don't see a lot of good options.
Signing Gardiner to a 3 or 4 year deal would be great but it seems clear that either Gardiner is too injured or that he is too wedded to Toronto or insisting on a long term deal. I don't want to overpay him just so we can say we improved this off-season.
I'd rather go through another season like last year and wait for the kids to improve. I think the team is on a good track for the first time in many years. The best option might be to wait and plan to push for the cup in 2 or 3 years. We have the prospect pool and the cap space for this to be a viable approach.
I also think that MB might make some deals in the next month with one (or more) or the teams struggling to deal with the cap.
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Scheifele gets four games!
in Habs & Hockey Talk
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No one expected the Leafs to lose after Tavares went down. They were still big favourites and the Leaf players knew they would be blamed if they lost as indeed they were.
If Winnipeg loses, a lot of people will say it was beacuse of their injuries and the suspension. There will not be a lot of people blaming the players; the narrative will be that missing 3 important players meant they were doomed. This just naturally removes motivation and determination from many people. I expect a few of the Jets will be less determined without Schiefele since those players know they have an excuse.