Meller93

It’s the millions of dollars Molson owes MB regardless

Well jock tax sounds like a real kick in the nuts

I could be wrong, but to my knowledge unless they have to pay both, it depends on the state you’re in. It’s known as jock tax.

Salary tax is based upon the place in which that particular game is played. So only 50% of the games played by any player are affected by that home team tax rate. Now that still makes a huge difference, but signing bonuses also avoid massive amounts of tax. U.S players like Pacioretty can attempt to have a huge portion of their salary in bonuses, which are only taxed at 15% as opposed to the near 50% on regular salary. If they then live in a state such as Florida in the offseason, they pay no US income tax. Beyond that, markets like California, and Nee York City have tax rates near Montreal level anyway, so it’s probably less of a negative than it initially looks. The Canadian market can look like a tax black hole, but a smart agent can avoid the majority of that issue. It’s just hard to compete with markets like Florida.

At this point I feel like there are more posts of people criticizing other people’s criticism of Bergevin than there are people critizing Bergevin. Jeeeez.

Agreed. The 9 games will give him some good experience, but watch him return and dominate. It’ll be fun to see if he can have a 40 goal 100 point year despite missing time for the world juniors and NHL.

Skinner fetched Cliff Pu - a far cry from suzuki - a second, third and sixth. Hoffman essentially fetched Boedker. Given the value of these two similar (younger) wingers, I think we made out like absolute bandits.

Great question. My honest thought is no, if Suzuki were already in the fold, Tkachuk or Zadina would be a Hab.

The second rounder involved originally belonged to Columbus. I have a tough time guessing how Columbus will perform year to year.

Habs don’t pay 10% of Tatar’s contract. Still an overpayment at 4.8 rather than 5.3, but definitely not crippling.

I’m seriously happy with this return, especially in the context of Hoffman/Skinner not fetching what people thought they would. Suzuki is a blue chip centre prospect. He may never be that bonafide 1st line centre but should produce in the top 6. We also somewhat replace current production we lost in Pacioretty. Tartar will never score thirty, but he should be capable of putting up similar ppg to pcioretty last year. A 20 goal, 40ish point guy. A second round pick is a great bonus. On top of all that, Pacioretty is still a clear loss for the team, so it honestly means we’ll finish lower this year. It’s clear, we’re rebuilding. And with a top 10 including Hughes, Turcotte, Kakko, Bryam, cozens, Dach, Newhook, and even the brother of a fellow Hab, Ryan Suzuki - finishing low could be a great thing this year. A centre prospect pool of Poehling, Suzuki, Kotkaniemi, and one of Hughes, Dach, Turcotte and Newhook would be the best we’ve had in decades, if it isn’t already the best in decades.

I strangely see that as a pretty accurate possibility of his future 😬 Best case, I hope he can produce a 10+ more points a year for a decade - Kopitar esque - but perhaps he tops out as a capable first line centre for about 4 years and then fades to a top 6.

Just came to mind How have haters not nicknamed Pacioretty “Molson 67” yet because of his supposedly too-light playstyle?

While I agree that having nothing but Bergevin can be tiresome (there’s not much else at the moment) aren’t passive aggressive insults more detrimental to the forum than that? No matter what side you’re on in this discussion I’m pretty sure we’re all capable of steering away from it. The truth of the matter is that if the Habs were a powerhouse right now, we’d all be hunky dory, but they aren’t. So we’re boiling over a little as a fan base. I don’t think it’s really each other we’re mad at, it’s the the state of the team - and the state of the team is a result of the manager, so here we are. The reason you’re only seeing MB bashing is because there’s next to nothing new happening. When the season starts, I’m sure we’ll have a lot more to talk about. So the constant MB bashing will be just one of many topics.

Sure, Gauthier’s tenture resulted in a decline and poorly performing team as well. But Gauthier was still responsible for the core of MB’s “above average” teams. Just as MB is responsible for the possible solid core in these next 3-5 years, but he’s also the decline of the once solid core he inherited.