hockeyrealist

Unexpected Success? As in cracked a weak roster perhaps. Have never been a fan of his, not his fault the organization handled him poorly and had such a dearth of d-men that he was thrust into the show prematurely. But that doesn’t mean he gets a pass either. Too slow moving the puck, too weak in corners and net front, brutal shot. He only made the 10 and 40 game mark because Weber protected him at the expense of his own performance, wasting Weber’s potential in doing so. He can make a partner look good but at the sacrifice of his own productivity. I know it reads harsh, but he wouldn’t be an NHLer if Mgmt hadn’t botched the core of the d.

Seems to have same claim on many of the leagues current and past tendies. The great 8 indeed. Habs benefit from his “load management”.

One irreplaceable player in that list. Picks outside of top 10 are essentially found money if they turn into key roster pieces. would rather watch a team battle for wildcard year after year then live in Buffalo. this year/next years team is better than we give credit for on here.

I’ve learned to read Trizzaks post with the appropriate tone to make me chuckle. i believe that was the goal, well played.

Agreed. The cost-benefit analysis is out of this world regardless of how the team does.

Great point, he’s had me paying more attention which was waning.

Was referring to post I quoted. in which OP stated others had overlooked a key point. This key point was really just OP’s own hypothesis that doesn’t jive with any of the facts. So to state that other posters are missing an obvious key point is garbage imo. OP’s theory that followed is as flawed as it is unfounded so I called garbage post on the whole thing. That is all, hope that clears it up. Go habs Go! this team is much better than you’d believe reading much of the forum.

complete unfounded speculation being posted as though people are overlooking something is garbage post. overlooking a key point is different than you making shit up.

Comparing Mete to Rafalski is out of left field, is useless. Kind of like throwing Ryan Ellis into the conversation out of nowhere as well. Ryan Ellis has a ton more grit and far better shot than Mete ever will btw. Mete survived on the top pairing, he did not thrive. The team obviously hasn't been successful with him in top 4. We've now seen how much of an anchor he was to Weber who is a more dominant force now that he doesn't have to babysit Mete. Currently Mete is not top 4 quality and is too small to play on a third pairing, the pairing that sees a lot of dump-ins, hard forechecking from other teams bottom 6. He cannot clear the front of the net, has to be at his best to win basic puck battles, and doesn't drive offense. Since paired with Petry, Mete has further been exposed as a weak link. Was he rushed into a role, yes. Do I blame him, no. But that doesn't mean he gets a free pass. He wouldn't even crack the roster on most competitive teams, the roster construction (or lack thereof) put him in a spot where he was thrust into a role far too prematurely. This may actually stifle his development as he is being forced to adapt before he mentally, physically matures which can result in players not realizing their full potential. These types of payers often end up sticking with tactics/tricks that work to reach the minimum acceptable level to keep their spot because the margin for error is non-existent; whereas in a developmental league any failed attempt would be taken with a grain of salt and seen as a young player finding their way. I don't think Mete will ever become a true top 4 dman, I think whatever chance there was at that has been squandered by forcing him into a role he wasn't ready for. I blame that on management. I realized this in the summer when I'd still hoped we'd land a top pairing d. I saw Chiarot on 2nd pairing with Petry and then you have to consider whether Mete fits on the third pairing, which I do not believe works for reasons mentioned above. When looking at it that way, I see him as expendable on the NHL roster (ideally in Laval to develop and hopefully grow into a savvy play maker), but I would not be upset to see him go, if it's part of a package that brings back a true top 4 left d. Side note, I hope Primeau plays so well that Price's starts are no longer guaranteed, I believe Price needs to be challenged by an up and coming number one, and Price will rise up when that happens. Nobody should be guaranteed ice time, starts when a team has such a terrible track record over past x amount of years. Not just current slump, they've been consistently inconsistent for years.

Def don’t think anyone has a right to pin any of that loss on Kincaid. Team wouldn’t have survived first period without him playing stellar. He was forced to make numerous huge saves due to defensive laps, not just by defensemen and also played the puck Wisely numerous times to help with breakout. I was impressed by his puck handling, choosing right times and making crafty plays. He was not the issue and anyone claiming he “needs to win his share of games” either isn’t watching, doesn’t have a clue or is trolling. Any backup goalie can’t be expected to steal games when I team takes that many pénalités. Your starter is suppose to be able to steal games, backups keep you in games which is what he did. Tatar has taken too many penalties, way too useful on the ice when he is out there and team is too weak on pk to afford it. Tired of Mete playing top pairing, he’s an anchor on Weber. We should be taking advantage of Weber by providing him a good partner, not forcing him to carry a top pairing and then wonder why he’s not the stud we demand. Hard to believe there is no better left dman available than any of our options given we haven’t had a top pairing left d since Markov. Everyone knows we’ve needed one, that blames falls on Mgmt. Mete is not Roman Josi 2.0 nor will he become that. He’s not offensive enough to even play pp and takes his best effort, skill and luck just to keep up with average plays, clearing the zone. He has not impressed enough to continue to pretend that problem isn’t holding us back. if first pairing dman isn’t on pp and also not on pk, are they really a first pairing dman or just a place holder that’s somehow lasted too long in that role. He’s too small for bottom pairing and I don’t trust him with Petry who is perfect on second/1B pairing. Doesn’t leave much room for him currently. Feel like he was rushed due to lack of options and to his/team’s demise.

Agreed and it to mention We don’t need him at all. we need a top pairing dman.

I agree, but couldn’t help but quite sonI could say Ferland is tough. He will do well riding shotgun with van’s young guns in top 6. If healthy, great value. If not....

Agreed, which is partly why I was so surprised at the number of players taken. Not to mention how easily some kids dominate at that age, but that isn’t sustainable. If they were drafting kids out of Canadian high school hockey or even top-tier Midget aged players, we’d be baffled I’m sure that they’d gamble on such young talent.

Edited as was able to read on second load and wanted to pay due for the hard work and good read. thanks. stilL enjoying it.

As mentioned above, it is a big gamble for most of these kids. From what I’ve seen of him( only videos since the draft) he does move well in all direction, stick handle well and seems composed with the puck. Obv small sample size to view and against unknown competition so again insert dart board analogy. Comments about him point towards a dman that I personally like (physical, offensive, aggressive) so I will be following his development path thanks to HabsWorld and the great coverage of habs prospects made available through the site. it would suck to be a fan of other teams and have much more limited access to information.