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1 hour ago, dlbalr said:
This year, it's Montreal's turn to host the 'A' lineups between the two teams. Next year, Toronto will get the good lineups and Montreal will have the so-so ones. There's actually an informal agreement in place between the two organizations going back about 7 or 8 years now, two games each preseason with alternating which one hosts the better matchup.
Based on recent post of Leafs skate today, they have a solid roster up front tonight also.
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1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said:
I wonder how healthy Monahan is.
Also, I am curious if the Dadonov-Dvorak-Gallagher will look anything like the Tatar-Danault-Galagher line
Seems to be the goal given the personnel and respective styles, if they are that effective it will be great.
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2 hours ago, DON said:
Dont think anyone would disagree.
Obviously are numerous folks whose heads should role.
And still would like to see what exactly the $$ has swept under the carpet over the years, all come clean and those players involved exposed.
The financial trail is a great point, would like to see an audit of what was collected, set aside and spent over the years. Including executive salaries and the hush money.I’m surprised more reporters haven’t done research into the recent stories involving world junior teams for example. In these cases the rosters are known, there are players who’ve stated they know nothing, some others who say they didn’t participate, there were witnesses though, some who’ve been silent. Would love to see a list comparing them, who has gone on to lucrative careers?
Obviously lots more incidents including staff, coaches but some of these specific cases are in the spotlight.
Was astounded with the developments reported this morning and was admittedly blowing off some steam. Will stop ranting now.
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Looking for opinions on this story.
It had been disturbing for some time, but the recent news of a second hush fund to settle legal claims that was kept secret during all of these past proceedings has me quite incensed.
To know my youth hockey registration fees and now my families children's registration fees have been stashed away to keep creepy activity quiet is disturbing.
To think they kept a second fund quiet during all of these interrogations, interviews, public hearing and grandstanding is amazing to me. That Hockey Canada leadership would attempt to pull this off while also stating they are confident that they have leadership who can oversee cultural change and a positive transition is a joke.
I see no way for this organization to redeem themselves, I will never trust the entity again. I think they have tarnished a national sport, should be dismantled, all executives black balled from hockey and believe our national teams should all be shut down for at least two years while hockey Canada is rebranded, re established and re-funded by corporate money.
All corporate sponsorship, zero player fees going towards anything but hockey. Maybe not charge players period, again let these corporate asshats who want their names associated with youth sports to step up. Between the branding of arenas, jerseys, helmets, commercials there is zero need to charge a struggling family a blanket “registration” fee when we all
know where that money ended up. Let the corporations earn their good will and lifetime brand awareness with the kids by finding it all.
All current money put back into youth hockey/access for minorities&under privileged kids.
The establishment has festered cancer that can only be cured with compete removal of the tumour, eradicate the mass of human turds that have ruined a national treasure, had the gall to stand up and say they could right this ship while hiding another slush fund the whole time, shame on them.
The Hockey Canada brand has been forever tarnished and time to hold these executives accountable. All of them should be gone, entity dismantled and rebuilt without full time executives earning a living off of a kids sport since they’ve proven they cannot be trusted.-
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Primeau not so primo as we’d hoped, at best a backup NHL’er behind a 60 start stud.
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Looks like terrible hockey.
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Twice as much $ and term as was suggested by “an NHL executive” just a month or so passed. The quote was something around 1.75 M per for two years to prove himself.
It wasn’t criticized so I was surprised there was so much support for this signing, seems the Hugo bandwagon is strong.
Hopefully it’s worth the hype.
Im not going to pretend to know whether this is good value at this time.
can’t help but wonder…
why he is getting paid on projected performance rather than past performance.
Me no likey.
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If he plays like he eats toast I am worried.
His toast is so unevenly cooked I question his sanity.
Burnt black at one end and uncooked at the other?
Should we expect a completely inconsistent style of play as well?
No pb on there for protein, just a bunch of deadweight carbs for breakfast? Is that what a world class organization (?) considers a healthy breakfast?
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Regarding Drouin:
how many times are people going to keep expecting something good from this player.
When he arrived it was his time to shine as he would be getting consistent top 6 (first line) minutes, then it was how much he would thrive under his former junior coach DD (where he’d enjoyed much success) and again be a solid top 6 player, now people expect another new coach to suddenly turn this pumpkin into a stud?
He is soft, relatively slow and a non-threat to shoot/score for most part. He is way too easy to defend and too poor on défense and zone exits to play with Suzuki and CC on top line, they already have issues with these areas and cannot be saddled with a winger who is also small, soft and bad at zone exits.Given the current d group the fw’s will be getting a lot of pucks in their feet, along the boards under pressure from pinching d, leading to extended time in the dzone. Drouin is not good in these situations and will therefore not stick with first unit if he even gets a chance there.
He will play himself down to third line, continue to be frustrating to watch, but a contender dealing with injuries or lack of scoring will take a flyer on him at trade deadline but he will not yield better than a 3/4 round pick.
The guy is what he is and continuing to expect him to evolve, improve and impress is asking for trouble.
Playing at a 50 point pace for 30-40 games is a lot different than actually showing up for 70 games (seems no one expects him to actually play a full season which says a lot) and actually producing consistently enough to merit 50 points.
Dude is washed up, was never really a factor in his career and shouldn’t be holding others from top 6 minutes. Would rather see Ylonen get that kind of shot.
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5 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:
I’m not as concerned abounds the Slafkovsky pick - I was hoping to get a centre, but I don’t want to make the mistake again of going for the safer, more complete player (Wickeneiser), than someone who is more dynamic (Savard), although in that draft, Wickeneiser’s size played a huge factor in his selection. The size fetish does scare me about Slafkovsky as well though. I’m willing to trust the new management teams judgement on the selection of the first pick.
what was puzzling to me though was the double trade for the following reasons:
1) we are a train wreck on D, and just traded our most consistent Dman. Now I think on a good team, Romanov is probably is at best a middle pairing dman. The issue we have is that I don’t think we have any legit top pairing dman. And that includes Petry - if we keep him (which I doubt we will).
We’ve got a bunch of bottom pairing dman in on our existing roster. Can Guhle be a top pairing dman, or at least a second pairing? Maybe. But I doubt if he is ready for that role next year. Maybe he can come in like a Fox, or Makar and have immediate success, even though he may not be as good as they are. But that’s a lot to ask for a young dman in his first year. Hell Hughes went through growing pains in Vancouver. We also have Baron, who potentially be able to be a top pairing dman, but his ceiling is probably that of a second pairing dman. Outside of those two, we have Logan Mailloux. I doubt he is in the NHL next year. So in the absence of major trades, I think we have no legit top pairing dman, and one proven second pairing dman in Petry - and he will likely be traded.2) as much as I don’t like giving up Romanov, I liked making a move to move up. Ballsy. But why the hell do we trade that pick for Dach??? He hasn’t proven anything yet and in his third post draft year, he has not shown that he should have been. Top 3 pick. Hell, he hasn’t shown that he should have been a top 15 pick!!!! He certainly has not show. He is better than Caufield who we picked at 15 that year!! I don’t get giving up a 13th and third round pick for a guy who hasn’t shown he can be a top 6 centre yet. And let’s face it we haven’t had success with number 3 overall picks (Galchenyuk, Drouin, KK). This seems like a size fetish again. I hate reading a guy skated well for a guy his size!!! Either he is an elite skater, or he isn’t, and todays game is all about speed. Chicago is blowing things up to rebuild and is trading a 22 year old. Is that the guy we want??? I would have preferred hanging onto the pick and seeing if we couldn’t use that to move up and pick a dman, or pick a guy like Kemmel.
3) are we rushing the rebuild? Next year is an obvious year to get a generational player. Why not draft more talent this year, try and get that generational player and go for it after that. We will be rid of some of bad contracts by than (Byron), and have less term remaining on other bad contracts (Armia, Savard, Hoffman). So why are we rushing it??? All bets are off for next year anyways without greater certainty about Price. And we won’t have clarity on him until training camp when he actually plays some exhibition games.
I know we aren’t done. I think we probably move Petry, Anderson, Dvorak - hopefully to help improve the D, and I’m glad as hell that Letang is not an option anymore. But I really would have preferred picking up other picks. I’m hoping I’m wrong and Dach comes in and becomes a 1A centre, but he hasn’t show. Signs of it yet.
Felt obliged to point out that Romy was not the most consistent dman.
Eddy is that, Romy had some huge swings in his play/decision making but had seemed to be growing into a solid player so I am surprised they gave up on him after enduring the ups and downs and investing heavily in him.
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27 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:
HuGo’s plan maybe to sign PLD in two years or maybe they expect an impact centre in next year’s draft.
Dach only cost us Romanov. If Dach was already proven it would have cost significantly more.
Our team got bigger upfront and not just size, they are skilled.
I expect more trades.
HuGo are swinging for the fences and I can’t wait to see it unfold.
ugh PLD is not the answer.A cancer that coasts half the time and will melt under spotlight of Mtl.
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5 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:
How did the mean and tough blues do agianst the Avs? How useful was Kassian for the Oilers?
Comparing Kassian to Slaf is like drag racing a dump truck versus a Ford F250 that has a suped up engine.
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6 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said:
I wonder what we would have to give up to get Chicago's 2023 1st round pick? LOL
Now what Chicago is doing fits the definition of a "tank".
I believe the whole point is to get the #1 in 2023 so doubt it will be available and not to the Habs with their lacklustre assets to offer. -
Don’t see how Dach becomes a top 6 centre, let alone top line.
He has shown nothing in NHL to justify that belief and going back to junior was no beast either, his best season was 25 goals I believe and just over a point per game. Those are not stud numbers and he should n out have been picked so high in his entry draft, Hawks pulled one over on Hughes here and this was a bad move. He has never shown the offensive upside to be a top 6 player and what we end up with is another bottom 6 plug to clog up
the pipeline.
If this leads to Dvorak being traded this team is going to suck and be unwatchable again this season. I pray Dach is not intended to be our 2C.
9 g, 17 assists in 70 games this year while getting over 18 min/game is not promising.
This further isolates Suzuki
/Cole as the only legit threats on the team and going to make it easy to game plan against and make Suzuki’s life miserable as he will be the sole focus of other teams game plans. May even hinder his development by making this boneheaded trade.
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On 6/9/2022 at 2:16 PM, Commandant said:
Shes the best female hockey player in the world, Shes a habs fan, And the organization made a commitment to adding diversity to management when they hired gorton. She fit for all those reasons.
Was not questioning the fit, aside from the female part could add a hundred names to a list who have actual NHL experience/training.Again, I’m fine with the hire but had wondered if there was history since the “hiring was rumoured since KH took over” as you said.
Not a very impactful role for their to be rumours about, especially given part-time nature, so had to wonder if there was a personal connection. Also have to wonder if it is more for optics than effect given it is part-time and she has no experience in the league to draw from and will require adjustment time.Would rather see a full time professional who is trained in personal/professional development do the job at full pace, which would really show a move to embrace player development.
This feels like pandering, marketing.
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On 6/7/2022 at 10:31 AM, GHT120 said:
She has been hired as a consultant ... one contributor to the player development program ... so I have no issues.
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On 6/7/2022 at 10:33 AM, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:
I tend to support any move that adds talent from outside the same old circle of NHL Old Boys.
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On 6/7/2022 at 12:26 PM, Commandant said:
Being Great is not Being Clutch.
She is great, and will score in prelim games and CWHL/NWHA/PWHPA games, and gold medal games. She scores all the time.... there is nothing clutch about it.
That is an awesome description and phrase, true.Pack that net touch in a suitcase and move into the Bell Centre please.
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On 6/7/2022 at 1:23 PM, Commandant said:
She's been a rumoured hire since pretty much the day that Gorton got the job. And she is a good hire at that.
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On 6/7/2022 at 4:04 PM, Meller93 said:
Clutch hire 🤭
Haha well played.
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Definitely some great points coming out, I am even happier about the hiring now.
Have to admit I was not initially excited (wasn’t against it by any means), but I see the value better now and as pointed out it is part-time consultant role so no pressure only opportunity.
As astutely mentioned already, all she does is “score, score, score” so hopefully she imparts her gifts onto the often offensively-challenged Habs.
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1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:
Something tells me that either Smith or McDavid won’t be with the Oilers next year
Haha that pic says it all.Didn’t they give up more than 40 shots per game, can’t recall seeing playoff goalie give up so many goals and stil be considered a difference maker.
Seems to me he gave up a lot of softies too.
Ignoring défense was a trend this year but seems to come at a great cost unless you are the best of the best a la Aves.
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Part time gig?
not sure how to react to this one, what’s the gang think?Initially, I’d have hoped for someone with NHL inside knowledge and experience to build on and share, as IMO competing in Olympics, Worlds is a lot different than an NHL career.
She has figured out longevity though.
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20 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said:
I really don’t like this signing - probably the first move by the management team I don’t like. At least it’s cheap- not a stupid term or as much money as we handed out to Savard and Hoffman last summer.
He’s not bad as a 7th dman, but he is not someone I’d want paired with any of our young dmen. With young players, you want veterans that will shelter them a bit, and be able to cover up their mistakes. Wideman is a guy that the kids will need to bail out on a regular basis if they are paired with him.
when you have steady Eddy, Savard and even Romanov you have enough stable défense first defenders already.
People have been complaining about no luck moving dmen for years and now shit on the one we’ve got for nextto nothing to play half of the games.
He is needed and fits the culture and the cap.
A known commodity for cheap.
Habs vs leafs 7:00pm Oct 3 2022
in Habs & Hockey Talk
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Will be interesting to see how Matheson and the young D (especially Arber) handle the fast, potent leaf attack. Arber looks to be in top 4 tonight so will see time vs Leaf’s top fw’s.