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John B

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  1. 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said:

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    What does Vancouver have that would entice us?

    As far as roster players that would fit under the cap (which the Habs are already over by a little less than 500K) goes, I don't see much that Vancouver would likely be willing to part with.  Podkolzin is probably the only prospect that I would be remotely interested in, but I would want Bergevin to try and replace Gallagher on the roster. 

  2. I don't think the Habs are going after any big fish, but I'm hoping they can land a sleeper type player that ends up exceeding expectations.  Like when they plucked Byron off waivers or when they traded basically nothing for Weise (the first time around) and Kulak.  It would be even better if that player was better than those guys were/have been for the Habs. 

  3. 3 hours ago, illWill said:

    Not sure if this was mentioned but Mikko Koivu intends to play next season. I think he would be a great fit on the 4th line and can fill in up the lineup in case of injuries. He's been a captain for a long time and the obvious Koivu connection make him a compelling option. 

    I wouldn't mind it.  A young team like the Habs can never have too many veteran leaders to help the youngsters.  I like the Saku connection as well.

  4. 2 hours ago, Dalhabs said:

    Wennberg to be bought out by the jackets. Maybe that is a good signing for us?

    I had read a rumor that they were thinking about buying him out.  Looks like it was true.  Before Alzner was bought out I was hoping Bergevin might be able to swing a one for one deal with the Jackets.  Alzner had one less year on his deal and an ever so slightly smaller cap hit.  I thought Turris from Nashville as well.  Was just bored and trying to figure out a way to offload Alzner for a more useful player without giving up a sweetner (or much of a sweetner).

  5. 5 hours ago, DON said:

    Given the picks they had i would say grade of C or so-so. I like the Mysak pick the best of the bunch.

     

    Q d-man Jeremie Poirier, i thought he might be a good option in 2nd round and at least a good token QMJHL pick. I imagine quebec media is ripping Habs for not taking any.

     

    And wouldnt Will Cuylle of been a better choice than Tuch?

     

    Agree with your grade.  Thought most of the picks were taken in the right range (not too many reaches if any), and they had a couple pretty good value picks (like Mysak and maybe Farrell).

     

    It really seemed like there was an effort to draft players who's rights can be kept longer.  Probably because of 50 contract limit and the number of picks they still have for next year.  Could explain why they only went with a couple of CHLers (Guhle and Mysak) and went heavier on the college bound players.

     

    As far as Cuylle is concerned, I'm not sure if he's better than Tuch or not because I've never seen Tuch play.  However, I have had the chance to watch Cuylle being from the Windsor area.  In his rookie season, I really liked him.  Looked like he was going places and could be a force for the Spits in his draft year.  Unfortunately, he didn't really seem to take that next step in his development from what I could see this past season.  Not much improvement over his rookie season at all.  Has me questioning his potential offensive ceiling a bit. 

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  6. 18 minutes ago, dlbalr said:

     

    They've traded four draft picks from this draft for players this offseason already.  (3rd + 7th for Allen, 3rd for Domi, 5th for Edmundson)

    I understand they've already traded picks for roster players.  Package this one with a roster player to get an upgrade.

     

     I'd still rather see them use the pick.  A 4th rounder is flyer.  2021 draft looks like it will not be deep.  At least use it to try and move up then instead of always moving back to get more picks that likely will not be signed because of the 50 contract limit.  Hirvonen, Niemela, Cormier, Poirier, Smilanic, Foudy, Knazko, Jurmo, Benning, Pytlik, and Savoie were all still available at 57.  Heck I would have traded all 3 seconds to move up to grab Gunler or Peterka.  Quality over quantity.  Just my opinion though.  

  7. 2 hours ago, dlbalr said:

    57 - traded to TB for 124 and TB 2nd in 2021.

    For once I'd like to see the Habs actually use the picks they acquire to choose a prospect or at least trade for a roster player as opposed to trading back for more picks. 

  8. 17 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said:

     

    Well, this gets to a point I asked in the Rumour thread and didn't get much uptake on: what is a reasonable return one-on-one for Max Domi? I posited an Armia-type player and that is exactly what we got, albeit one with (probably) more offensive chops than Armia. I'm still waiting for other suggestions.

     

    As for the idea of packaging Domi to get a star-calibre player back, it's an appealing scenario, but also one that lends itself to wishful thinking. When people say Domi + 16th overall + prospect for a star W, they tend to judiciously leave out which prospect they mean. Caulfield? Romanov? I'm not sure I'd throw in either of those guys in such a deal.

    I read your post in the rumor thread.  Honestly I wasn't sure if that was fair value at the time or not.  Apparently Bergevin and the Jackets thought so.  I think with so many other fans on other sites banging the "Domi had a 70 point season" drum so "we are undervaluing him" had me convinced he was worth more.  If Anderson didn't have the injury last year and would have been on pace for his usual point totals, I wouldn't feel like the Habs overpaid as much.  Anderson had a down year too, only his down year was far worse than Domi's and hasn't yet established himself as a consistent 40 point guy in the NHL.  FWIW, I remember reading rumors/speculation on other boards that Boston and another team (can't remember which one) was really interested in Anderson and that their 1st rounder was in play last season before they grabbed Ritchie from Anaheim.  So clearly, Anderson had/has value even with his injury if that rumor is true.  Just taken aback a bit that Domi lost that much value.

  9. I realize Domi had a down year (44 points which isn't bad) and his trade value was lower than usual, but I didn't realize it was this low.  Anderson is a nice addition, but also had a down year (4 points in 26 games) and serious injury that kept him out a long time.  Unless Anderson returns to form next season and beyond, Habs didn't get much bang for their buck here.

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  10. On 9/29/2020 at 7:00 PM, Commandant said:

     

    16 is tough to predict who will be available.

     

    Here are my rankings though. 

    https://lastwordonsports.com/hockey/2020-nhl-entry-draft-headquarters/

    Based on the rankings, I'd be pretty happy with:

    16  Seth Jarvis - Also like Holloway (19), Amirov (20), and Reichel (35)

    47  Topi Niemela (ranked 49th) - Also like Wiesblatt (47)

    48  Jaromir Pytlik (ranked 56th) - Also like Chromiak (59)

    57  Roby Jarventie (ranked 67th) - Also like Niederbach (70), Jurmo (71), and Heineman (76) 

    78  Eamon Powell - Also like Simontaival (79), and Robbins (90)

    98  William Dufour (ranked 103rd) - Also like Rolston (105)

    102 Daniel Torgensson (ranked 106th) - Also like Cotton (108)

    109 Maxim Groshev (ranked 112th) - Also like (Gogolev 114)

  11. What would be the value of trading Hab's unprotected 2021 1st rounder as part of package?  I'm not that high on next year's draft.  Even if the Habs miss the playoffs and win 1st overall (which I doubt happens), I don't think that player would rank in the top 5 of this year's draft (maybe not even top 10).  Habs need a scoring winger with some size and/or a true top pair LD.  I would think dangling that as part of package could land the team something pretty good. 

  12. 3 hours ago, tomh009 said:

     

    Plan D is offer sheet?

    I don't think the Habs have enough cap space to make a serious offer sheet unless they move salary out.  If they do an offer sheet is has to be a worthwhile offer so the other team doesn't match.  They have 19 of 23 roster spots filled and about $10.2M.  So not so sure that it's an option for now.  We'll see what moves are made before free agency begins.

  13. 38 minutes ago, tomh009 said:

    It's interesting that, pre-draft, Bergevin has extended Petry, but no one else. Not that I'm unhappy, but why Petry and only Petry? Was he the only one willing to sign at a decent price?

     

    Bergevin said in the interview that extending someone does not take long at all, as long as they are in the same ballpark. So, either they decided to defer the others, or they were asking for more than the Habs were willing to pay at this point.

    I have a feeling that they are unsure about some of the other players.  

     

    Tatar is good during the regular season, but has disappeared in the last two playoffs.  

     

    Danault has expressed some displeasure with the ideal of potentially being third fiddle to Kotkaniemi and Suzuki.

     

    Domi is unhappy with his role on the team as well and feels he should be playing center on one of the top two lines.

     

    Mete is starting to look like the odd man out after being outplayed in the playoffs by Kulak and the trade/signing of Edmundson.

     

    Not sure about the hold up on Gallagher or Armia.  I could see Gallagher wanting more than what the Habs cap structure would allow and getting big money (in what could very well end up being a "bad" contract) in free agency.

     

    The rest of the UFAs/RFAs for this season and next are kind of "meh".

     

    Also have to take into account protection slots for the expansion draft.  Could be why they are not trying to extend everyone. 

  14. I wouldn't mind taking a chance on Puuljujarvi, but I don't want to see the Habs pay what it would probably take to get him out of Edmonton.  It's really hard to pin down his value.  Hard to know what his ceiling might be.  Likely middle 6.  If Edmonton were willing to take a 3rd rounder and a conditional pick based on Puuljujarvi's performance (point totals), I wouldn't be opposed to it.  The idea for buyers is to not overpay, while the seller wants to get fair value as well.

  15. I have a feeling that we're going to see the Habs focus on quite a few long term project types in this draft if they don't move some of those picks.  With their current prospect pool and limited contract space, it would make sense to avoid too many CHL prospects that need to be signed in two years.  That's not to say the Habs are going to ignore the better prospect to choose a player who's rights can be retained longer, but if the prospects are close I could see them avoiding the CHL players.

     

    I could definitely see the Habs grabbing Holloway with their first.  Amirov, Gunler, Peterka, and Reichel could be others.  In the second round I could some interest in Colangelo, Smilanic, Bordeleau, and Savoie.  Habs do like to draft defensemen in the second so I'd add Kleven, Grans, Jurmo, Niemela and Wallinder (if he slips out of the first).  With 3 second rounders the Habs may draft a CHLer or two as well if there is any they really like.  I could also see the Habs moving at least one of those 2nd rounders.

  16. 44 minutes ago, tomh009 said:

     

    Today's Athletic has the quote a bit different -- and it makes more sense:

     

     

    It seems that Bergevin and Timmins have already zeroed in on the player they want, and that player is ranked below 16th, so there would likely have been no benefit to picking 9th.

    Now I'm starting to wonder who it might be.  My guess would be that it would be a prospect ranked in the 20s (by most reputable services) if they seem that confident that they'll get him at 16.  Maybe Gunler or Reichel or a defenseman?

  17. 5 hours ago, dlbalr said:

     

    I looked into it last night.  It's not a legitimate source - it's someone looking at them changing their social media bios to not reflect Montreal and inferring that a trade is on the horizon.  With Gaudreau believed to be available in Calgary, why not throw him into a 'rumour'?

    I was wondering if it was just more of a reaction to them changing their twitter accounts.  It's not like there was an actual name (recognizable name) attached to the twitter account where the tweet originated.  Thanks for checking into it and clearing that up.

  18. 9 hours ago, GHT120 said:

    This was the best spot I could think of for this somewhat interesting tidbit

     

    Apparently Ryan Poehling and Max Domi have removed references to being a Hab from their Instagram pages ... this contrasts with, for example, Nick Suzuki and Brendan Gallagher whose profile photos are in their habs sweaters ... Poehling as an interesting reference on his page:  Time will tell the story

     

    Are they suggesting they don't expect to be back?

    There is some twitter speculation that Bergevin and Treveling are working on a deal.  Gaudreau to Montreal, Domi, Poehling, 1st rounder to Calgary.  Not sure of the validity of any of the sources though.  Could be someone just thinking out loud.

  19. 58 minutes ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said:

    The leafs are strapped....

     

    RW Marner (10.5  million)

    For

    C/W Domi RFA

    RD Juulsen

    2020 2nd round 

    2021 1st round

     

     

    ???

    I'd do it, but I think I'd rather have more of a sniper type (like Matthews or Laine) than Marner.  Obviously might have to give more for a Matthews or Laine.

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