Pierre the Great Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 well I have a feeling I'll be the only one posting in this thread. oh well http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6538057.stm Jacques Chirac 74, is stepping down Front Runners: Nicolas Sarkozy of the ruling centre-right UMP Socialist Party candidate Segolene Royal And UDF centrist anti-Parisian politics Francois Bayrou and the crazy person Jean-Marie Le Pen More people then ever have registered to vote in response to the horror of last elections when a fascist got into the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 (edited) I'll vote socialist. For some strange reason, I'm quite drawn to the leadership of their party. Who says you can't vote on first impressions.. Cheers to Chirac! things will never be the same. Edited April 9, 2007 by Chips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaze53 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Socialists All The Way Baby! hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 hehehe yeah if she won she'd easily be the 'hottest' President ever..... lol I'm sure Bush would hit on her at the G8 meetings. Heck he already gave Angela Merkel a back rub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 hehehe yeah if she won she'd easily be the 'hottest' President ever..... lol I'm sure Bush would hit on her at the G8 meetings. Heck he already gave Angela Merkel a back rub. LOL but seriously my grand parents are French and they say this election is even worst than the Québec one, all these leaders suck they said in french... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 really? I know that Quebec French and France French are really different. for example I was taught in french class in France you say "le week end"when talking about the weekend while in Quebec it is still fin de semaine. Teacher said something about losing the link to France in Quebec around a couple hundred years ago. And that Quebec french never evolved, due to losing the link and isolation. I've also heard that if you put a frenchman and a quebecer in the same room they might not understand each other because the two dialects are so different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 really? I know that Quebec French and France French are really different. for example I was taught in french class in France you say "le week end"when talking about the weekend while in Quebec it is still fin de semaine. Teacher said something about losing the link to France in Quebec around a couple hundred years ago. And that Quebec french never evolved, due to losing the link and isolation. I've also heard that if you put a frenchman and a quebecer in the same room they might not understand each other because the two dialects are so different. I don't really know, I attended school with some frenchmen who easily become part of the students group i was in. Maybe i'm not a reference because an half of my family come from France... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 ah, well that's what people have told me, they said "don't bother going to Quebec for vacation if you are looking to speak french, you probably won't be able to understand them." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 ah, well that's what people have told me, they said "don't bother going to Quebec for vacation if you are looking to speak french, you probably won't be able to understand them." J'catch pas, m'semble qu'on parle ben icitte ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_faerie87 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 GO SOCIALISTS GO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtoVuoti Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I've also heard that if you put a frenchman and a quebecer in the same room they might not understand each other because the two dialects are so different. that's true mon cher Pierre. It's not so different, but i sometimes have some trouble to understand my friends from Quebec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtoVuoti Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 About the elections, i'd be very surprised if we dont get a 2nd round with Sarkozy / Royal The Socialists voters wont make the same mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 Le fascist is making gains apparently in the polls: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070409/wl_nm/france_election_dc Le Pen gains as French presidential campaign starts The 12 hopefuls unveiled new television and radio spots in line with strict election rules, trying to win the support of the large number of undecided voters ahead of the first-round vote on April 22. Sarkozy has extended his comfortable lead over his main rival, Socialist Segolene Royal, an LH2 poll for RMC radio showed, while Le Pen has crept up on the third-placed centrist candidate Francois Bayrou. But the poll also showed that 47 percent of voters were undecided or had picked a candidate but could change their mind, highlighting the importance of the last phase of campaigning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 Le Pen's mask slips as he plays the race card against Sarkozy http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2437270.ece "He began the campaign pretending to be a more mellow, and more tolerant, man. But in his latest broadcast appearance - he seldom appears in public - the veteran far-right leader reverted to his favourite theme: xenophobia. The front-running, centre-right candidate, Nicolas Sarkozy, "comes from an immigrant background," Mr Le Pen told a radio interviewer on Sunday. By comparison, he, Mr Le Pen, was a candidate of the terroir: literally, a candidate rooted in the native earth. :puke: "It's obvious, there's a difference," Mr Le Pen said. "There is a choice there which might be considered fundamental by a certain number of French people". :puke: This is Jean-Marie Le Pen at his most poisonous and his most plausible - and also his most effective. Mr Sarkozy, 52, the man who is favourite to be the next President of France, is indeed half-Hungarian and a quarter-jewish on his maternal, French side. He does not look particularly French; his name does not sound French. Ask almost anyone in France if this will make a difference to their choice in the presidential election on 22 April and 6 May and they will say "no". Mr Le Pen knows, however, that it does make a difference, for a significant minority of French people, especially people on the hard right, tempted to vote for Mr Sarkozy. Mr Le Pen, and he alone, has been prepared to break the taboo and make a public issue of Mr Sarkozy's Hungarian and Jewish blood. When challenged - as he knew he would be - he immediately pointed out that Mr Sarkozy had himself boasted of his immigrant background during the campaign. If Mr Sarkozy had not mentioned his family, Mr Le Pen said, he would not have mentioned it either." :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chips Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 (edited) wow correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like france in still stuck in the dark ages when it comes to discrimination. why can't people just get along as learn to respect differences. whats wrong with an immigrant background? in many ways everyones an immigrant at some point in their life. seems awful and wrong but I guess its hard to change ways of thinking even today. maybe they could take a lesson from canadians. we may have a differences with it comes to hockey like the habs vs. leafs. ; but in an election we'd be happy to vote for leaf fan if he was a strong quebecer at heart! right? what should matter is if the person is a true supporter of france and her future not if they are an immigrant or a leafs fan! Edited April 10, 2007 by Chips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Posted April 10, 2007 Share Posted April 10, 2007 As long as Le Pen doesnt get in the 2nd turn.. I dont know if I would vote Sarkozy or for that centrist dude if I was french, I would need to get more informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 10, 2007 Author Share Posted April 10, 2007 Sarkozy is too Thatcherish or worse. Right now both Royal and Sarkozy are moving hard right/left. Sarkozy is trying to get some of Le Pen's people. Royal is trying to prevent a far left candidate from getting enough votes which would threaten her not making the second round. Hence the movement of the polls in the UDF centrist guy. If this was Quebec Bayrou is Dumont in that he is promoting the countryside of France and not just focusing on people around Paris. As seen my Dumont, this very well might work. Remember France has two rounds. If Bayrou can get into the second round against Sarkozy. He very well could win this. Bayrou has said he'd pick a Socialist PM even, if I remember correctly. But something like 45% of the electerate hasn't made up their mind and this is going to be one of the highest turnouts in history. You can give the credit to Le Pen for this. His shocking result last time, has scared the crap out of people. Plus you've got this gang of rappers going around the city areas getting the youth riled up to vote, and apparently its working. The youth would vote Socialist. Sarkozy better watch himself that he doesn't move too far to the right. Because that opens him up to attacks from Le Pen and at the same time get the feeling that Sarkozy is going after the same vote, there by making him too right wing for the undecided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 Election diary: 'Tour de France' good read, if you want insight into the French Political scene, you'll see a lot of parallels from the Quebec Election. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6541935.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 Sarkozy refuses to apologize for calling paedophilia being hereditary along with suicide. "The French rightwing presidential hopeful Nicolas Sarkozy defended himself on television yesterday after widespread criticism following an interview in which he said paedophiles are born, not made. Mr Sarkozy defended his view, outlined in a philosophy magazine, that individuals might be genetically predisposed to molest children. "What part is innate and what acquired? At least let's not close the door to all debate," he said. He added: "I'm inclined personally to think that you are born paedophile and it's a problem that we don't know how to treat this pathology." "Referring to young people killing themselves, Mr Sarkozy also spoke of a "genetic fragility, a preconditioned pain", adding: "I don't want to give parents a complex: it's not exclusively the parents' fault every time a youngster commits suicide." "The archbishop of Paris, Monsignor André Vingt-Trois, led criticism of Mr Sarkozy yesterday: "What seems most serious to me is the idea that you can't change the course of destiny." Marie-George Buffet, of the Communist party, said Mr Sarkozy's remarks were "extremely serious" and from another era. "It goes back on everything that has evolved through science in our society," she said. "That is to recognise that every man and every woman is free and not predestined [and says] that their whole life is already written in their genes and there's nothing they can do about it." Philippe de Villiers, another rightwing candidate, also affirmed the principle of man's "liberty" and excluded all idea of "predetermination". http://www.guardian.co.uk/france/story/0,,2054141,00.html Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Well voting is now a day away (saturday morning in France right now) I'm going with Sarkozy first and Royale barely beating Bayrou, Le Pen by a percentage point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 voting is almost over now... Results coming! 73.87% turnout rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLP Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 predicting there will be a runoff and Segolene Royal will prevail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakiqc Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 predicting there will be a runoff and Segolene Royal will prevail same feeling here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 1hr 30min from now official results will be released. Anybody but Le Pen in the top 2. Sarkozy is a lock I think barring the unthinkable into the second round. So its a Royale vs. Le Pen vs. Bayrou for the second spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted April 22, 2007 Author Share Posted April 22, 2007 Le Monde is saying that the official turnout numbers for the whole country could be around 87%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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