revin5 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 You're probably in the minority on that issue. Personally, I thought Bonk wasn't as bad as many made him out to be, but he definitely played much better this past year.Know of any other players that can play the same positional style as Bonk, roughly the same size, but a little faster? I can't think of any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfposi Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Know of any other players that can play the same positional style as Bonk, roughly the same size, but a little faster? I can't think of any. Chipchura?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revin5 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy Ryder Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 What is funny in that ?? He is not faster both are not very fast, but he is well positionned, handle the stick very well creates space and play a very good 2 waysand he has a winning attitude. Wich Bonk never had. I sense some irony on your last 3 post revin5. -Patrick Stefan a heartless no hitting no scoring no attitude guy, you must be joking. -Tom Poti at defense? He learned to make blind pass and blurs at Patrice Brisebois school. -Radek Bonk was a complete disaster the first year in Montreal playing with an injury ans skating like he pooed in his jackstrap. He gave a good run this year to stay in the league and get another contract. Are you joking around because i am not sure at all if you're not a Corvina clone or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlétique.Canadien Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 (edited) Souray is WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY faster than Hatcher, than Hal Gill, McGillis, etc... They don't use that stride that Souray has. If you study the way a cheetah runs, it extends its boby and lands on a dime and extends again. Leap leap leap etc. Souray strides like that and he is very fast given his size. He's also excellent at pushing off the ice while being stationary to start a rush. Strong legs. His backward skating transitioning to forward on a D play is the concern. Edited June 7, 2007 by ATHLÉTIQUE.CANADIEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexstream Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 They don't use that stride that Souray has. If you study the way a cheetah runs, it extends its boby and lands on a dime and extends again. Leap leap leap etc. Souray strides like that and he is very fast given his size. He's also excellent at pushing off the ice while being stationary to start a rush. Strong legs. His backward skating transitioning to forward on a D play is the concern. I'll say it again: He'd be an amazing LWer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I'll say it again: He'd be an amazing LWer I've always thought the same thing, though I'd try him on the right wing. He could probably get 40 goals Brett Bull style, one timer's from the circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoRvInA Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 . Are you joking around because i am not sure at all if you're not a Corvina clone or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revin5 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 What is funny in that ?? He is not faster both are not very fast, but he is well positionned, handle the stick very well creates space and play a very good 2 waysand he has a winning attitude. Wich Bonk never had. I sense some irony on your last 3 post revin5. -Patrick Stefan a heartless no hitting no scoring no attitude guy, you must be joking. -Tom Poti at defense? He learned to make blind pass and blurs at Patrice Brisebois school. -Radek Bonk was a complete disaster the first year in Montreal playing with an injury ans skating like he pooed in his jackstrap. He gave a good run this year to stay in the league and get another contract. Are you joking around because i am not sure at all if you're not a Corvina clone or something Not joking at all and no irony at all. Stefan can fill Bonk's role but with a bit more speed, Poti can fill Souray's role (not PP, but 5 in 5) with a bit more speed and more shot blocking, and Radek Bonk did everything that was needed of him the first year he was here (he was a big shutdown center, he wasn't here to score goals). What's a Corvina clone mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Bonk was very good in his first year with us and incredible in his second year. definitely a great pickup by Gainey in the Garon deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_faerie87 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Bonk was very good in his first year with us and incredible in his second year. definitely a great pickup by Gainey in the Garon deal. Heh, most definitely. Aside from Mathieu30, has anyone else really missed Garon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Bonk was very good in his first year with us and incredible in his second year. definitely a great pickup by Gainey in the Garon deal. Bonk sucked most of his first year it was not until the end when he started to play well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Heh, most definitely. Aside from Mathieu30, has anyone else really missed Garon? Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre the Great Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 hopefully Price on the roster as the second goalie. But oh what to do with Halak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 hopefully Price on the roster as the second goalie. But oh what to do with Halak. Gainey and Timmins have already said Price is a started no matter what next year he WILL NOT BE A BACKUP> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revin5 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Bonk sucked most of his first year it was not until the end when he started to play well.You obviously don't understand positional hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan24 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 You obviously don't understand positional hockey. Bonk was brutal for the first half of his first year with the Habs. :puke: Since then he has been great though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Those who think he was brutal are thinking that because he wasn't scoring at all. When Gainey brought him in, he clearly said that we'd use him in a checking role and don't want him to focus on offence. Once people realized that he just wasn't capable of putting up the numbers he did with Ottawa, they noticed how good his defensive play was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saskhab Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Those who think he was brutal are thinking that because he wasn't scoring at all. When Gainey brought him in, he clearly said that we'd use him in a checking role and don't want him to focus on offence. Once people realized that he just wasn't capable of putting up the numbers he did with Ottawa, they noticed how good his defensive play was. Even Gainey said he struggled when he first came. And he definitely knows what positional hockey is about. It could've been Julien's fault... Once Bob took over behind the bench, he started to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revin5 Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Even Gainey said he struggled when he first came. And he definitely knows what positional hockey is about. It could've been Julien's fault... Once Bob took over behind the bench, he started to improve.He played exactly the same the first half as the second half (only the puck went in the net a few times in teh second half). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMMR Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 He played exactly the same the first half as the second half (only the puck went in the net a few times in teh second half). He was a -7 with 1 goal the first half of the season while playing about 15 minutes per game. The second half he was +4 with 5 goals same playing time. But by his own admission he played much better in the 2nd half, he also potted 2 goals in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revin5 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 He was a -7 with 1 goal the first half of the season while playing about 15 minutes per game. The second half he was +4 with 5 goals same playing time. But by his own admission he played much better in the 2nd half, he also potted 2 goals in the playoffs. I thought everyone here had agreed that +/- is a meaningless stat. We'd have to rewatch the entire season to prove what I'm talking about, because being in position is not a stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habzmaniac Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 This is what my team would look like in October if some players do want to come to montreal. lol Also keep in mind it's just a dream, not realistic but what the heck (Smyth)- Koivu- Ryder Kostitsyn- Plekanec- Kovalev Higgins- Chipchura- Milroy Latendresse- Lapierre- (Laperriere) Begin-Murray Markov-Komisarek (Schneider-Hannan) Streit-Dandenault O'Byrne-Gorges Huet-Halak Price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 This is what my team would look like in October if some players do want to come to montreal. lol Also keep in mind it's just a dream, not realistic but what the heck (Smyth)- Koivu- Ryder Kostitsyn- Plekanec- Kovalev Higgins- Chipchura- Milroy Latendresse- Lapierre- (Laperriere) Begin-Murray Markov-Komisarek (Schneider-Hannan) Streit-Dandenault O'Byrne-Gorges Huet-Halak Price between 25th and 30th position... Milroy :puke: Ryder - Brière/Gomez - D'Agostini Latendresse - Koivu - Kovalev Higgins - Plex - A. Kost Bégin - Lapierre - Johnson Grabovski, Murray Markov - Komi Souray - UFA (Hannan) Bouillon - Streit Gorges Huet - Halak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombTHEice Posted June 11, 2007 Share Posted June 11, 2007 Do you guys think that we can attract 2 top UFA d-men if we can't or won't re-sign Souray? Rafalski and Hannan could really help this d-corp ... dunno if any of this UFA's would like to play for the HABS though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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