Habopotamus Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 10 hours ago, Trizzak said: Bob McKenzie reports Bergevin has let it be known to the other 30 GMs he would like to trade a forward, and trade one soon. No players were specifically mentioned, but it looks like a trade is more likely than someone getting waived. Maybe we can trade Drouin for a top 4 d-man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Habopotamus said: Maybe we can trade Drouin for a top 4 d-man... Doubtful, but it's just possible - and would be worth pursuing if the chance came up; but of course the optics would be so horrible that it wouldn't happen even if a great deal materializes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Doubtful, but it's just possible - and would be worth pursuing if the chance came up; but of course the optics would be so horrible that it wouldn't happen even if a great deal materializes. I was being a dick. He was already dealt for one to come to Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Habopotamus said: I was being a dick. He was already dealt for one to come to Montreal. Oh, I know. But looked at objectively, trading him for a top-4 d-man would be a good move organizationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Oh, I know. But looked at objectively, trading him for a top-4 d-man would be a good move organizationally. Definetly. We have a forward group that are all basically the same player. I just cannot see how this team puts the puck in the net more this season, than last Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Oh, I know. But looked at objectively, trading him for a top-4 d-man would be a good move organizationally. Sergachev for Drouin for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard09 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 14 hours ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Sergachev for Drouin for... No one will give you a top 4 for Drouin....he is starting to look like alexander dagel...lots of talent but can't put it together. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott462 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Richard09 said: No one will give you a top 4 for Drouin....he is starting to look like alexander dagel...lots of talent but can't put it together. Lol this is getting a bit silly. Drouin just needs to get some confidence back and he will start putting up points. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Scott462 said: Lol this is getting a bit silly. Drouin just needs to get some confidence back and he will start putting up points. I hope you're right. But remember, he had a shi**y season last year and is picking up right where he left off. Until he actually starts playing well - if he ever does - it is quite reasonable to express concern about him. Beyond that, if he fails to become a legitimate top-line player, that trade will be sheer folly, just another case of Habs management crapping the bed on major trades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I dont think confidence is Drouin's problem They will also have to start moving some defenseman in the near future, with Weber and Schlemko coming back in the next couple of months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Chris said: I dont think confidence is Drouin's problem His problem is the 'Galchenyuk' problem - and I don't mean substance abuse, but rather that he still thinks like a junior player, trying to deke out the whole team single-handedly rather than seeing the ice, managing time and space, and using his teammates. At the NHL level this is a recipe for ineffectiveness. He's 23 and going into his third pro season...he's still young, but for him to still be trapped in this mindset is a bit unsettling. Some guys never do figure it out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard09 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: His problem is the 'Galchenyuk' problem - and I don't mean substance abuse, but rather that he still thinks like a junior player, trying to deke out the whole team single-handedly rather than seeing the ice, managing time and space, and using his teammates. At the NHL level this is a recipe for ineffectiveness. He's 23 and going into his third pro season...he's still young, but for him to still be trapped in this mindest isva bit unsettling. Some guys never do figure it out. His problem is he thinks he is entitled to be a superstar without working for it. That has always been his problem that his why he refused to go to the minors before. After 5 years of being in the league he has not gotten it. So I have little hope he ever will. MB was dumb to make that trade, especilly after he gave up Subban for an older defence man. It will take another 6 years to recover from MB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott462 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 10 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I hope you're right. But remember, he had a shi**y season last year and is picking up right where he left off. Until he actually starts playing well - if he ever does - it is quite reasonable to express concern about him. Beyond that, if he fails to become a legitimate top-line player, that trade will be sheer folly, just another case of Habs management crapping the bed on major trades. Kid looked great tonight boy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 De la rose getting waived? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Le Brun was saying last night that Buffalo had offered Montreal o' Reilly for the third overall pick. Bergevin said no. They then offered O'Reilly for a second and Poehling. Obviously Bergevin said no again.... This is probably old news, but it's the first I've heard of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/13/2018 at 2:09 PM, Richard09 said: His problem is he thinks he is entitled to be a superstar without working for it. That has always been his problem that his why he refused to go to the minors before. After 5 years of being in the league he has not gotten it. So I have little hope he ever will. Drouin has three goals and three assists in the last five games. Maybe there is hope for him yet. But five games is too short a time to make that conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard09 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 19 hours ago, tomh009 said: Drouin has three goals and three assists in the last five games. Maybe there is hope for him yet. But five games is too short a time to make that conclusion. 5 games is early. The issue with him is his work without the puck. If he can pull that together then he will be solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott462 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Richard09 said: 5 games is early. The issue with him is his work without the puck. If he can pull that together then he will be solid. His work without the puck yesterday was probably his best game I’ve seen him play in that regard. He was back checking and breaking up plays all night. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Elliotte Friedman said on Saturday Headlines that he believes Bergevin is trying to trade a defenseman in preparation of Weber coming back soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 57 minutes ago, Trizzak said: Elliotte Friedman said on Saturday Headlines that he believes Bergevin is trying to trade a defenseman in preparation of Weber coming back soon. Bye schlemko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 10/28/2018 at 12:27 PM, Richard09 said: 5 games is early. The issue with him is his work without the puck. If he can pull that together then he will be solid. Drouin now has 17 points in 20 games. Only +0 but when you compare that to his 2017-2018 number (46 points and -28) it's a huge improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 12 hours ago, Commandant said: Bye schlemko With one more year on his contract, I don't think there will be teams lining up for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 41 minutes ago, dlbalr said: With one more year on his contract, I don't think there will be teams lining up for him. Even if salary is retained? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Trizzak said: Even if salary is retained? 1 That might help but is that something the Habs want to do? Would they not be better off just waiving him and sending him to the minors rather than retaining at 50% to move him? It's almost the same cap hit with him buried than it is with 50% retention and at least by burying him, they'd have the ability to bring him back if injuries strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 They would be far better off demoting Alzner, but unless Bergevin can work some trade magic again, I think it more likely that Mete goes to Laval and Alzner remains in the press box most nights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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