Colin Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 What's now ? Mike Keenan with the Blue Jackets ? Well, they could certainly use someone to kick their collective butt, however I suspect they'll look more to a 'teacher' type or a 'rah rah' guy. Quite possible we'll hear from a certain Captain Kirk again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Mark Letestu dealt from PIT to Columbus for a 4th rounder. That seems like a light return, good move for the Jackets. Don't think it's solve much though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanpuck33 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I'd say there's an excellent chance Arniel is fired soon, especially now that the Jackets are no longer paying for Hitchcock. With him still around, I think it was gonna take a lot more sucking to convince them to pay three head coaches. As for who should take over, I want someone who will really shake the team up. Someone to take the letter's off the players' chests and make them earn them. Sadly, I don't think anyone has the balls to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Numerous times during the Tampa-Philly game, the Lightning set up their 1-3-1 system and Philly just waited... and waited... and waited... Neither team made the first move. The ref blew the whistle twice to set up a faceoff, but other times, Philly just waited till a Lightning player moved and created an opening. It was a staring contest, and Boucher blinked. I hope more teams do this whenever someone implements the 1-3-1 system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jetsniper Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 That is amazing. I would love to see teams copy the Flyers there, I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 That is so strange! Never thought I would see that haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenadian Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Wow a coach who CAN adapt during a game...........nice to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenadian Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 How long before we see the "flying V" employed.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Niklas Hagman on waivers from the Flames. I know there was some enthusiasm about picking him up before although the present cap situation would make that a little challenging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 And to think, we could have had that 1-3-1 had we kept Boucher. Flying Frenchmen indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsniper Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Niklas Hagman on waivers from the Flames. I know there was some enthusiasm about picking him up before although the present cap situation would make that a little challenging. He also sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Niklas Hagman on waivers from the Flames. I know there was some enthusiasm about only BTH who wanted to pick him up before although the present cap situation would make that a little challenging. fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Niklas Hagman on waivers from the Flames. I know there was some enthusiasm about picking him up before although the present cap situation would make that a little challenging. I wanted him last season! But everybody else said he sucked. And now it seems as if he sucks. I posted it on that HW Twitter feature that used to be on the main forum page and sakiqc or Joe wasn't sure if I was joking or not. Lots of people seem to be blaming one or both of them teams but I don't think either team did anything wrong here. TB has the right to play any system they like and Philly should have the right to wait for TB to make their move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 I wanted him last season! But everybody else said he sucked. And now it seems as if he sucks. I posted it on that HW Twitter feature that used to be on the main forum page and sakiqc or Joe wasn't sure if I was joking or not. I've been trying to figure out where that went as people were just starting to get the hang of it. When we went to the updated version of the boards, they disappeared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I've been trying to figure out where that went as people were just starting to get the hang of it. When we went to the updated version of the boards, they disappeared. I dunno but if you go to my profile, you can see the comment that I posted about Hagman, still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 11, 2011 Author Share Posted November 11, 2011 I dunno but if you go to my profile, you can see the comment that I posted about Hagman, still there. I think I found the setting, it's turned back online...so you can promote Hagman again if you'd like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 And to think, we could have had that 1-3-1 had we kept Boucher. Flying Frenchmen indeed! Best tweet in a long time: "Tampa Bay Lightning are chipping away at our escrow 1-3-1 at a time." tweeted Phoenix Coyotes forward Paul Bissonnette. That's gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Sorry - and I'm not saying JM is God - but I can't help wondering where are all those expert Habs fans who are SOOOO critical of JM's 'obsolete' conservative style and wish, wish, wish we had just held onto that wonderful Boucher with his electrifying, innovative hockey mind. If he goes 1-3-1 because Hedman is out, what would he do with Markov/Campoli/Cammalleri/Kostitysn/Gomez? Stack five men in the net behind Price? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueKross Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Sorry - and I'm not saying JM is God - but I can't help wondering where are all those expert Habs fans who are SOOOO critical of JM's 'obsolete' conservative style and wish, wish, wish we had just held onto that wonderful Boucher with his electrifying, innovative hockey mind. If he goes 1-3-1 because Hedman is out, what would he do with Markov/Campoli/Cammalleri/Kostitysn/Gomez? Stack five men in the net behind Price? We spend a way too much time worrying what somebody else is doing and not enough time focussing on what we are doing or in our case not doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbp Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Sorry - and I'm not saying JM is God - but I can't help wondering where are all those expert Habs fans who are SOOOO critical of JM's 'obsolete' conservative style and wish, wish, wish we had just held onto that wonderful Boucher with his electrifying, innovative hockey mind. If he goes 1-3-1 because Hedman is out, what would he do with Markov/Campoli/Cammalleri/Kostitysn/Gomez? Stack five men in the net behind Price? I think most of the distaste towards JM comes from his stern demeanor. He just stands behind the bench and enacts vengeance on young players. I would have liked Boucher, switching to a 1-3-1 just makes sense in that instance. He still is willing to adapt and change his style of game to suit his players and to win. JM hasn't shown that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForumGhost Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 If another team pulls a stunt like that, they should be fined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I think most of the distaste towards JM comes from his stern demeanor. He just stands behind the bench and enacts vengeance on young players. I would have liked Boucher, switching to a 1-3-1 just makes sense in that instance. He still is willing to adapt and change his style of game to suit his players and to win. JM hasn't shown that. My point is that Boucher has a star-studded lineup and still chose to go with a hyper-conservative system due to a couple of injuries. Considering the much more catastrophic parade of injuries JM has had to deal with, it's reasonable to infer that Boucher would coach the Habs in a very similar fashion. As for his treatment of young players, I feel it's another canard. The guy has a track record of developing players and of getting the most out of players - Bouwmeester, Jokinen, Redden - whose careers went south under different coaches. Now I'm not saying every decision he makes is correct (like everyone else, I think Pleks on the point is stupid) and I agree that he tends to be too stubborn in clinging to decisions that aren't working out. The difference between me and the Martin haters is that I'm aware that a new coach would bring his own, different bundle of strengths and weaknesses. Too often people contrast Martin to perfection, or some idealized dream of what a perfect coach would do, and condemn him for falling short. Trouble is, there's no perfect coach. (Okay, there's Scotty Bowman). Much of the vitriol is thus based on fantasy thinking that makes guys like Emelin out to be great talents held down by a bad man, when in fact they just might not be that great at this stage in their development. If Emelin plays 15:00 per night and makes 4 gaffes per game, then fan loathing will transfer onto Emelin (hardly good for his devleopment - remember O'Byrne's own goal?) and probably blame Martin for sitting out Great Young Stud X in favour of useless dog Emelin. And if Martin sits Weber to give Emelin more ice, then the fans will accuse him of crushing Weber's development, He can't win. The ferocity with which fans hate Martin is based on axiomatic reasoning: he is evil/incompetent/obsolete, therefore everything that goes wrong is proof of his evil/incompetence/obsolescence. The Tampa incident is revealing because it offers strong evidence that, at least in terms of team systems, JM is not doing anything any other coach, including the hot coach of the month (Boucher), wouldn't do with this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Even in Montreal Martin's moves with young players have for the most part worked. With Price.... sure he struggled his first year under Martin, but he's become a better player. He was criticized for benching Subban and Eller last year, but both players have come back from the benchings better hockey players. PK was in a bit of an early season slump, but i think we all know he is still young and looks to be a future number 1 for us. Eller has developped a defensive game and the offence is coming around. People were upset with the handling of Patches, and with him being in Hamilton, and with his comments about Martin. Well, it turns out that Hamilton was the best place for Patches, and it helped him to develop into a real goal scoring threat. He's been one of the best players on our team this year. Weber is also coming along nicely. As has Ryan White, and David Desharnais. Three more players who Martin is getting a lot out of. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he will get the most possible out of Diaz, Emelin, and Palushaj, along with other youngsters put under his watch, because he's always done so, whether it be in Ottawa, Florida, or his two years here. We can question the decisions... and I have.. but looking at the results, it seems to be working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 No supplementary discipline for Lucic's bulldozing of Miller. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=601357 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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