TheDriveFor25 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 How bout 3 and Schlemko to Detroit for Larkin, Cholowski, and 6. If Montreal is set on taking Kotkaniemi they acquire a couple of assets and still likely get their guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, TheDriveFor25 said: How bout 3 and Schlemko to Detroit for Larkin, Cholowski, and 6. If Montreal is set on taking Kotkaniemi they acquire a couple of assets and still likely get their guy. The Habs would take that and run - I don't know why Detroit does it though. They give up their top forward plus another first round pick in Cholowski plus the 6th pick to move up three spots. There isn't much of a difference between 3 and 6 so why would Detroit give up that much to move up? I think even if you took Larkin out of there that Detroit may be hesitant to do that. You might be able to convince them of 6+30 for 3 but I wouldn't hope for more than tat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 I’m just hoping there is some team(s) out there very high on Zadina and willing to overspend to get him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 7 hours ago, TheDriveFor25 said: How bout 3 and Schlemko to Detroit for Larkin, Cholowski, and 6. If Montreal is set on taking Kotkaniemi they acquire a couple of assets and still likely get their guy. One does not simply fleece Ken Holland the way you are suggesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Let's try this for RoR: Scherbak, DeLaRose, Alzner & 62nd overall for Ryan O’Rielly Buffalo gets our 3rd line center, a RW with good upside potential and a 2nd pair LD. They need to take a bad contract n exchange for ROR's contract It improves them and it finally gets us a top center. Zadina would backfill Scherbak's points and has higher ceiling. DLR's spot would be filled by Danault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Buffalo says no way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Why do people think other teams are going to take Alzner in a trade for there top 6 player????? I know a lot of people want to dump Alzner and his contract but come on now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said: Let's try this for RoR: Scherbak, DeLaRose, Alzner & 62nd overall for Ryan O’Rielly Buffalo gets our 3rd line center, a RW with good upside potential and a 2nd pair LD. They need to take a bad contract n exchange for ROR's contract It improves them and it finally gets us a top center. Zadina would backfill Scherbak's points and has higher ceiling. DLR's spot would be filled by Danault How does this improve Buffalo? They get a fourth line centre (de la Rose wasn't the third line centre for most of the year with the Habs), an underachieving d-man on a long-term deal, a prospect with some upside (but not a top-liner) in Scherbak, and a late 2nd for a proven centre. I get Alzner's inclusion for cap reasons but Buffalo will want at least one legitimate core player in return plus a top prospect (Scherbak probably doesn't cut it), not a collection of spare parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Alex Galchenyuk for sidney Crosby and Evgeni malkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Ryan O' Reilly? Next year's 1st (top 10 protected), Toronto's 2018 2nd, Nikita Scherbak, and Andrew Shaw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 We're not blowing up the team so guys like Shaw, Alzner, weber wont be traded and is Price is (Bergevin meal ticket) so he wont be traded. Pacioretty maybe and Gallagher maybe since those are your only 2 best trade chips that both don't have any NTC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Trizzak said: Ryan O' Reilly? Next year's 1st (top 10 protected), Toronto's 2018 2nd, Nikita Scherbak, and Andrew Shaw. Swap Shaw for Pacioretty and BUF says yes. I would probably say yes too, this team needs a centre so bad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 10 hours ago, dlbalr said: How does this improve Buffalo? They get a fourth line centre (de la Rose wasn't the third line centre for most of the year with the Habs), an underachieving d-man on a long-term deal, a prospect with some upside (but not a top-liner) in Scherbak, and a late 2nd for a proven centre. I get Alzner's inclusion for cap reasons but Buffalo will want at least one legitimate core player in return plus a top prospect (Scherbak probably doesn't cut it), not a collection of spare parts. I was looking at what they gave Colorado to get ROR. It worked better when it was Galchenyuk instead of Scherbak I hesitated to include Petry so instead I added Alzner. it's a stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 3 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: I was looking at what they gave Colorado to get ROR. It worked better when it was Galchenyuk instead of Scherbak I hesitated to include Petry so instead I added Alzner. it's a stretch Why didn't we trade Galy for ROR? At least that would have made some sort of sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Why didn't we trade Galy for ROR? At least that would have made some sort of sense I don't think Galchenyuk alone would have come close to landing O'Reilly. I had seen something the other day (I think from LeBrun) that said the trade doesn't impact Montreal's interest in O'Reilly as Buffalo had no interest in Galchenyuk. Edit: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, dlbalr said: I don't think Galchenyuk alone would have come close to landing O'Reilly. I had seen something the other day (I think from LeBrun) that said the trade doesn't impact Montreal's interest in O'Reilly as Buffalo had no interest in Galchenyuk. Edit: Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 16 hours ago, Trizzak said: Ryan O' Reilly? Next year's 1st (top 10 protected), Toronto's 2018 2nd, Nikita Scherbak, and Andrew Shaw. Oshie, Iginla and Jack Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 How bout Scherbek, Reilly, and a 2nd round to Calgary for Sam Bennett! True Centre.. 54% faceoff last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, TheDriveFor25 said: How bout Scherbek, Reilly, and a 2nd round to Calgary for Sam Bennett! True Centre.. 54% faceoff last year. I think that's too much to give up for Bennett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Massive trade.. Weber, Pacs, Schebak, and draft pics to Calgary for Bennett, Tkachuk, and Hamilton. The draft Tkachuk at 3. Yowzas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, TheDriveFor25 said: Massive trade.. Weber, Pacs, Schebak, and draft pics to Calgary for Bennett, Tkachuk, and Hamilton. The draft Tkachuk at 3. Yowzas! Ok EK stop trolling??? these forums. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 19, 2018 Author Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 hour ago, TheDriveFor25 said: How bout Scherbek, Reilly, and a 2nd round to Calgary for Sam Bennett! True Centre.. 54% faceoff last year. For starters, Bennett spent the majority of last season on the wing. Yes, he had a 54% success rate at the draw but he took an average of three per game. His success rate the past two years as a centre was just 46.1%. He was moved to the wing with the hopes that he would struggle less there. As much as Bennett hasn't lived up to his draft billing, what motivation does Calgary have to move him for a collection of spare parts? Scherbak is a decent prospect but not a high-end one, Reilly has limited trade value considering all he was worth a few months ago was a future 5th, and a second-rounder is no guarantee to be successful either. They're better off keeping him rather than deal him for depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, dlbalr said: For starters, Bennett spent the majority of last season on the wing. Yes, he had a 54% success rate at the draw but he took an average of three per game. His success rate the past two years as a centre was just 46.1%. He was moved to the wing with the hopes that he would struggle less there. As much as Bennett hasn't lived up to his draft billing, what motivation does Calgary have to move him for a collection of spare parts? Scherbak is a decent prospect but not a high-end one, Reilly has limited trade value considering all he was worth a few months ago was a future 5th, and a second-rounder is no guarantee to be successful either. They're better off keeping him rather than deal him for depth. If Bennett isn’t what they expected and has become a spare part, they’re getting three for the price of one. If if there is a player they like in the 2nd round, maybe they do it as they have no picks in the first three rounds. If a player with a high grade from them falls, they might be more willing to make a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I wouldn't give up on Scharbak without giving him a full season in the NHL to see what he can do. Give him that 2nd line spot on the rw leave him there and see what you got. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 I still think there’s a trade to be had with Calgary, possibly the Rangers as well. Not sure if they’d move Skjei, but him, Hayes, and 9 for Pacs, 3 and some other piece(s). I’m hoping for something big on Friday night. There has to be a team that really values Zadina or Dobson or Tkachuk.. some team willing to pay. MB needs to find that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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