Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Commandant said: Im not overpaying for a rental who has an unsustainable shooting percentage. If you told me before the season we would trade for pageau, id have been fine with it. Right now, with all the goals, the cost has gone up and i dont want to pay the price i think the sens will ask. They are selling super high on him Totally agree. Better to grab a guy when he is having an off year and his market value is down. The Sens would want a lot for Pageau especially if he is going down the road to Montreal where they have to play against him a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 We should acquire josh Anderson on the cheap. We could use a nice power forward. Byron for Anderson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Meller93 said: We should acquire josh Anderson on the cheap. We could use a nice power forward. Byron for Anderson? Why is Columbus selling him on the cheap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 33 minutes ago, Commandant said: Why is Columbus selling him on the cheap? They shouldn’t, but after 4 points in 24 games (and last year on his contract), on a Columbus team that doesn’t look playoff bound, weirder trades have happened. I just think Montreal could use a forward like Anderson, and perhaps Columbus might like Byron’s speed/contract length. Just a suggestion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Meller93 said: They shouldn’t, but after 4 points in 24 games (and last year on his contract), on a Columbus team that doesn’t look playoff bound, weirder trades have happened. I just think Montreal could use a forward like Anderson, and perhaps Columbus might like Byron’s speed/contract length. Just a suggestion I agree Montreal needs a forward like Anderson. I like the player and the thought of adding him. Around the NHL, i bet at least half a dozen teams could use him though and if he was on the market, there would be bidding. At minimum i think it will cost a 2nd rounder (chicagos that will be a high second) and a lower prospect like cole fonstad or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Commandant said: I agree Montreal needs a forward like Anderson. I like the player and the thought of adding him. Around the NHL, i bet at least half a dozen teams could use him though and if he was on the market, there would be bidding. At minimum i think it will cost a 2nd rounder (chicagos that will be a high second) and a lower prospect like cole fonstad or something. I’m not opposed to a trade like that either! Anderson has some skill (though he hasn’t showed it this year) and a bunch of physicality that I think would fit the habs real well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 7 hours ago, Commandant said: I agree Montreal needs a forward like Anderson. I like the player and the thought of adding him. At minimum i think it will cost a 2nd rounder (chicagos that will be a high second) and a lower prospect like cole fonstad or something. At that price point, Bergevin should have made the deal yesterday. I’m also not opposed to giving up Byron in a deal for a younger, bigger forward 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, PMAC said: At that price point, Bergevin should have made the deal yesterday. I’m also not opposed to giving up Byron in a deal for a younger, bigger forward The price point was based on him being a rental. I see now that he's an RFA and not a UFA this summer, so you can probably change that second to a first, or that prospect to someone like Poehling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Commandant said: The price point was based on him being a rental. I see now that he's an RFA and not a UFA this summer, so you can probably change that second to a first, or that prospect to someone like Poehling. Bah! Humbug! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, PMAC said: Bah! Humbug! Agree, too much to give up for Anderson. I think Columbus would make that trade in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: Agree, too much to give up for Anderson. I think Columbus would make that trade in a heartbeat. I just see it as supply and demand. So many teams want this type of player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 To Montreal: F Sven Baertschi ($1,800,000 after Vancouver retains 46.53%, signed through 2020-21) To Vancouver: D Mike Reilly ($1,500,000, signed through 2020-21) Baertschi has asked for a trade and considering Montreal's current fourth line, he could actually serve as an upgrade while pushing players like Cousins and Weal for playing time. For Vancouver, it would give them some extra defensive depth with Edler out (they could keep him and send Guillaume Brisebois down while staying cap neutral which is what the odd retention percentage is for) and if they opted to waive Reilly, there would be a little bit of cap savings which, given their current cap situation, is notable. The Habs can easily afford the extra cap hit this season and if Baertschi could crack the lineup regularly, they wouldn't mind the extra hit next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 55 minutes ago, dlbalr said: To Montreal: F Sven Baertschi ($1,800,000 after Vancouver retains 46.53%, signed through 2020-21) To Vancouver: D Mike Reilly ($1,500,000, signed through 2020-21) Baertschi has asked for a trade and considering Montreal's current fourth line, he could actually serve as an upgrade while pushing players like Cousins and Weal for playing time. For Vancouver, it would give them some extra defensive depth with Edler out (they could keep him and send Guillaume Brisebois down while staying cap neutral which is what the odd retention percentage is for) and if they opted to waive Reilly, there would be a little bit of cap savings which, given their current cap situation, is notable. The Habs can easily afford the extra cap hit this season and if Baertschi could crack the lineup regularly, they wouldn't mind the extra hit next year. I can't see the Canucks taking on THAT much salary retention without some kind of conditional pick (games played, points gotten) going the other way. Baertschi has plenty of skill, he's just oft injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 4 hours ago, Trizzak said: I can't see the Canucks taking on THAT much salary retention without some kind of conditional pick (games played, points gotten) going the other way. Baertschi has plenty of skill, he's just oft injured. I thought about that but thought the player might be of more value than a pick. At either rate, Benning has admitted that the asking price is really low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 22 hours ago, dlbalr said: I thought about that but thought the player might be of more value than a pick. At either rate, Benning has admitted that the asking price is really low. Really really low. Baertschi back on waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Thank God we dodged the Kovalchuk bullet: Ilya Kovalchuk (LA) is on unconditional waivers for the purpose of terminating his contract. — Chris Johnston (@reporterchris) December 16, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch_nl Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Just read that Lias Andersson requested a trade from the Rags. He's got talent, that's for sure, but haven't got it together in New York. High risk - high reward opportunity. McCarron and Hudon for Andersson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, ch_nl said: Just read that Lias Andersson requested a trade from the Rags. He's got talent, that's for sure, but haven't got it together in New York. High risk - high reward opportunity. McCarron and Hudon for Andersson? We would do that in a second. There is no chance the Rangers take it though. Hudon and McCarron have both cleared waivers, they have little to no value, and while Andersson's value has dropped from his top 10 draft status, he's not at the value of two guys who no one wanted on waivers. Probably worth a 2nd rounder or something.... which i would do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Commandant said: We would do that in a second. There is no chance the Rangers take it though. Hudon and McCarron have both cleared waivers, they have little to no value, and while Andersson's value has dropped from his top 10 draft status, he's not at the value of two guys who no one wanted on waivers. Probably worth a 2nd rounder or something.... which i would do. I agree with you don't understand why people still think Hudon and McCarron still have trade value at this point in their careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Hi, this is more a question than a trade proposal: If the CH sent to Arizona: Alzner and Ouellet to provide them with D-depth for their playoff run And the Coyotes set to the CH: Hjalmarson or Hossa (and maybe Oesterle if they need to drop a contract) => Would this be interesting at all to Arizona? From a cap/LTIR perspective is it good deal to them? My thinking is that it may provide the cap flexibility they may be lacking to make deals at the trade deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 41 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: Hi, this is more a question than a trade proposal: If the CH sent to Arizona: Alzner and Ouellet to provide them with D-depth for their playoff run And the Coyotes set to the CH: Hjalmarson or Hossa (and maybe Oesterle if they need to drop a contract) => Would this be interesting at all to Arizona? From a cap/LTIR perspective is it good deal to them? My thinking is that it may provide the cap flexibility they may be lacking to make deals at the trade deadline not sure how this helps them or adds cap flexibility. Alzner playing is more useless than Hossa just taking up cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 28, 2019 Author Share Posted December 28, 2019 58 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: Hi, this is more a question than a trade proposal: If the CH sent to Arizona: Alzner and Ouellet to provide them with D-depth for their playoff run And the Coyotes set to the CH: Hjalmarson or Hossa (and maybe Oesterle if they need to drop a contract) => Would this be interesting at all to Arizona? From a cap/LTIR perspective is it good deal to them? My thinking is that it may provide the cap flexibility they may be lacking to make deals at the trade deadline It would actually hurt them cap wise. Hjalmarsson will return this season (I think he's due back in the next couple of weeks) and I'm sure they'd value him over Alzner and Ouellet. Once he's back, they'll still be in cap compliance because of Hossa being on LTIR. If he goes to Montreal in this scenario, Arizona is over the cap as soon as Hjalmarsson comes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Thanks! This helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 We are at the half-way point in the season, and the trade deadline is staring to come into sight. After watching Canada win the World Juniors I stating think on what it may take to get Lafrenière without tanking: I am usually off in my valuations, but I'll go with two 2020 1st rounds, 1 2020 2nd round and a throw in under 23 years old (low prospect) To Nashville: Petry+Cousins To Montreal: 1st round 2020 + contract (Craig Smith?) This gives Nashville more depth on Right-D fr a long playoff run and a bottom 6 forward ======= This way the Ch can offer 2x 1st round pick, 1x 2nd round pick and a low prospect (Vejdemo? Evans?) for Lafrenière Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 3 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: We are at the half-way point in the season, and the trade deadline is staring to come into sight. After watching Canada win the World Juniors I stating think on what it may take to get Lafrenière without tanking: I am usually off in my valuations, but I'll go with two 2020 1st rounds, 1 2020 2nd round and a throw in under 23 years old (low prospect) To Nashville: Petry+Cousins To Montreal: 1st round 2020 + contract (Craig Smith?) This gives Nashville more depth on Right-D fr a long playoff run and a bottom 6 forward ======= This way the Ch can offer 2x 1st round pick, 1x 2nd round pick and a low prospect (Vejdemo? Evans?) for Lafrenière Would need to be a top 5 pick a mid 1st round, a top prospect, and an elite young player with an amazing contract. If at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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