xXx..CK..xXx Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 It's not just Sergachev but you're also giving up Galchenyuk and another 1st round pick. I rarely care about prospects but I have a good feeling about Sergachev. Why not just trade Galchenyuk, Beaulieu and a 1st. Throw in a 2nd or a 3rd. People can talk crap about Beaulieu but he's not that bad and I still feel like the Islanders are getting a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: I don't make that trade. One of the background reasons I'm fine with the Weber trade overall is that we have Sergachev coming in soon. I don't include him in a trade at this point. Remember this in 2 years. Sergachev would leave a huge organizational void, no question. But the proposed deal would also fix an ever huger void. The thing is, I've never been convinced that the solution at C *has* to be a big-time star like Tavares. If we could acquire a legit top-6 C at much lower cost, that would still be a huge improvement. Right now the team's #1C is Danault. That is a remarkable easy situation to improve upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 5 hours ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: I don't make that trade. One of the background reasons I'm fine with the Weber trade overall is that we have Sergachev coming in soon. I don't include him in a trade at this point. Remember this in 2 years. Its painful... remember how adamant i was on not trading Sergachev for Duchene. He's a great prospect. But John Tavares is a legit top 10, if not top 5 centre in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 4 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Sergachev would leave a huge organizational void, no question. But the proposed deal would also fix an ever huger void. The thing is, I've never been convinced that the solution at C *has* to be a big-time star like Tavares. If we could acquire a legit top-6 C at much lower cost, that would still be a huge improvement. Right now the team's #1C is Danault. That is a remarkable easy situation to improve upon. Imagine this Galchenyuk Anisimov Danault That looks good enough to me. but better is better and if i had a shot at Tavares, I take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Pacs - Tavares - Radulov YOWZAS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 On 6/2/2017 at 11:02 PM, Trizzak said: Trade proposal from Mike Bossy: Galchenyuk, Sergachev, Lindgren, 1st round pick for John Tavares. Yes with a contract extension. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Yes with a contract extension. Can we subtract Sergachev and add Juulsen & another 2nd?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, nihilz said: Can we subtract Sergachev and add Juulsen & another 2nd?! Maybe if there's no contract extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 35 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Maybe if there's no contract extension. I don't see how we could afford to make this deal - but than I think we are more weak on defence than most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: I don't see how we could afford to make this deal - but than I think we are more weak on defence than most If we keep sergachev and add juulsen and a second as nihilz said , our future at d still isn't so bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 2 hours ago, nihilz said: Can we subtract Sergachev and add Juulsen & another 2nd?! I don't think the Isles take that. Sergachev is worth more than Juulsen + 2nd Look at it this way.... if we offered pick 25 and pick 56 to detroit for pick 9, they would say no way. Juulsen is a prospect who was pick 25, sergachev was pick 9.. 56 is our second rounder this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Commandant said: I don't think the Isles take that. It is Garth Snow, remember? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDriveFor25 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Galchenyuk, Sergachev, Hudon, First Rounder for Tavares and RYan Pilon Obviously Serg has the higher ceiling, but Pilon would be a good add Keep Lindgren as well, need good goalie prospects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 45 minutes ago, PMAC said: It is Garth Snow, remember? Snow has made mostly good trades and very few bad trades. He's not dumb. His worst trades since 06-07 were all the picks he shuffled to move up to get Calvin De Haan, and the Moulson/Vanek swap that led to him selling Vanek to the Habs for a 2nd/prospect. Unless I'm missing something that's bad (we're talking trades not drafting). He also quickly identified that Griffin Reinhart, taken after Galchenyuk, wasn't going to be much, dealt him to the Oilers, and now has Matt Barzal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 Ryan Pilon retired a couple of years ago about two months after being drafted. The Islanders lost his rights back on June 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 33 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Ryan Pilon retired a couple of years ago about two months after being drafted. The Islanders lost his rights back on June 1st. The basic idea of taking back a midrange prospect on D in order to soften the blow isn't a bad thought, though - especially if you can identify a prospect the Isles may be under-valuing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 35 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: The basic idea of taking back a midrange prospect on D in order to soften the blow isn't a bad thought, though - especially if you can identify a prospect the Isles may be under-valuing. Devon Toews probably fits that bill. Had a pretty decent first season in Bridgeport. Could be NHL ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Commandant said: I don't think the Isles take that. Sergachev is worth more than Juulsen + 2nd Look at it this way.... if we offered pick 25 and pick 56 to detroit for pick 9, they would say no way. Juulsen is a prospect who was pick 25, sergachev was pick 9.. 56 is our second rounder this year. There then. Its settled. Galchenyuk Beaulieu Juulen Lindgren & 1st. Sergachev or bust. ;P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Can we flip Emelin for Hamonic, too!? Benn Hamonic 3rd pairing would make me giddy.. muhahaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 4 hours ago, nihilz said: Can we flip Emelin for Hamonic, too!? Benn Hamonic 3rd pairing would make me giddy.. muhahaa Can't do it... we traded Emelin for Erik Karlsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nihilz Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Commandant said: Can't do it... we traded Emelin for Erik Karlsson What a sham! Habs coulda got more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Apparently Nolan Patrick has met with the Habs.. is a trade possible? Is Bergevin looking at shipping Galchenyuk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Nolan Patrick met with 15 NHL teams (at least) in the last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Commandant said: Nolan Patrick met with 15 NHL teams (at least) in the last week. I'll take that as a no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, Meller93 said: I'll take that as a no I didn't say that. Is it possible. I'm sure Bergevin has asked what the price is. New Jersey is willing to listen. Trades are always possible. Is it worth over-reacting because he had an interview with the Habs. Doesn't mean that much, he's interviewed with over half the league. Sometimes teams do interviews incase he's a trade possibility now or in 3-4 years. They also like to ask about teammates, example Stelio Mattheos is ranked close to the Habs two second round picks, maybe they want a teammates insight on him. There are lots of reasons to interview. Not all are trades, though some are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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