DON Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Highly doubt I will. But Habs did just fire the forward coach of Bulldogs, Lebeau. Their PP (and 3 on 3 play this year, went like 1-9, with 1shootout all year) has been terrible for 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Highly doubt I will. But Habs did just fire the forward coach of Bulldogs, Lebeau. Their PP (and 3 on 3 play this year, went like 1-9, with 1shootout all year) has been terrible for 3 years. Well, that at least shows they're not infinitely patient with coaches. If they're not gonna fire Lacroix, they should at least sit him down and ask for an explanation for the ineffectiveness of the PP. If he says the system was fine, it was just an issue of 'execution,' then I think you execute him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 Who wrote it? Some fancy stats bag lapper? No it was a guy named Jonathon Willis, he shows how stats like p/p the penalty kill etc have all gotten worse since Le Genius. i don't read "fancy stats shit" as you should know. As to bag lapping i have no idea what you are talking about, is this an american term? Highly doubt I will. But Habs did just fire the forward coach of Bulldogs, Lebeau. Their PP (and 3 on 3 play this year, went like 1-9, with 1shootout all year) has been terrible for 3 years. Well there is none so blind as he who will not see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 If you read the transcript of Bergy's season-ending press conference, you realize that there is NO WAY Therrien is getting canned any time soon. He could not have been more staunch in his defence of his coach, and even got testy with questions about it. MT is the bench boss for a while yet - get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 If you read the transcript of Bergy's season-ending press conference, you realize that there is NO WAY Therrien is getting canned any time soon. He could not have been more staunch in his defence of his coach, and even got testy with questions about it. MT is the bench boss for a while yet - get used to it. I am. Have said many times he is going nowhere. Does that mean we should ignore a different point of view? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 But Lacroix wasn't making decisions in a vacuum, am sure Therrien-JJD had input, as the mgmt guys above might as well. PK kinda suggested (how I heard it), Tampa has a lot more rope to move around and ad-lib on the PP, then a more structured set-up like Habs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 But Lacroix wasn't making decisions in a vacuum, am sure Therrien-JJD had input, as the mgmt guys above might as well. PK kinda suggested (how I heard it), Tampa has a lot more rope to move around and ad-lib on the PP, then a more structured set-up like Habs? I found that interesting as well. We know that Le Genius keeps a pretty short rope on everyone. In Bergevin's interview he said, "Mike and I" are in charge of the coaching and everyone knows that. Or words to that effect. Sounds like Le Genius has the boss looking over his shoulder, which is why maybe he defends him so fiercely, a lot of the decisions are coming from the GM's chair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I am. Have said many times he is going nowhere. Does that mean we should ignore a different point of view? Apparently it does if you happen to be a Therrien fan. Coah Rick Wilson was told he was going nowhere and given a 4 year extension.......and then got fired two months later. Kirk Muller was told he was not getting traded, ..... the day before he was traded. Darryl Sittler was told that he was going to be named captain of the Flyers at a press conference, then got traded to Detroit just before the press conference. Could go on with more examples of "staunch" statements of security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/can-the-canadiens-win-with-michel-therrien/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 18, 2015 Author Share Posted May 18, 2015 http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/can-the-canadiens-win-with-michel-therrien/ Thanks for posting that Stogey. I could have as well but I thought everyone could find sportsnet. Maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Pretty much sums up my opinion of MT. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/can-the-canadiens-win-with-michel-therrien/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/can-the-canadiens-win-with-michel-therrien/ Yep, sums up therrien pretty good....... one of the habs weak points....head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Still stick with 2020 as firing date, just another 4 1/2 year and cup or two, before GM Julien Brisbois replaces him with calder cup wining coach...Sylvain Lefebvre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronthab Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 From listening to MB it seems MT enjoys solid confidence from him. And I'm not surprised. He knows the problems and he knows the solutions and what is possible. He's got a plan. It starts with defence and involves developing from within. It's the new NHL. Cap responsible.. very careful planning. And Therrien is achieving excellent results within these modern day NHL constraints. For my part, while no competent judge of professional coaches I've been very impressed with the MB - MT tandem, and really think MT has, as Patches stated been just great at getting the best out of every player. He's got the horses he has with all their known limitations and we've played some excellent hockey this year. We easily could have had this last series. Our team is a work in progress, and I think we can reasonably hope to be enjoying continuing progress. A final thought on MT is that I really liked the support and confidence he consistently showed for players and the team through thick and thin. I wish him continued success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 From listening to MB it seems MT enjoys solid confidence from him. And I'm not surprised. He knows the problems and he knows the solutions and what is possible. He's got a plan. It starts with defence and involves developing from within. It's the new NHL. Cap responsible.. very careful planning. And Therrien is achieving excellent results within these modern day NHL constraints. For my part, while no competent judge of professional coaches I've been very impressed with the MB - MT tandem, and really think MT has, as Patches stated been just great at getting the best out of every player. He's got the horses he has with all their known limitations and we've played some excellent hockey this year. We easily could have had this last series. Our team is a work in progress, and I think we can reasonably hope to be enjoying continuing progress. A final thought on MT is that I really liked the support and confidence he consistently showed for players and the team through thick and thin. I wish him continued success. I may not agree with everything you say Thab but you do it with such optimism that you make everyone feel better, like a ray of sunshine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs30/31 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 From listening to MB it seems MT enjoys solid confidence from him. And I'm not surprised. He knows the problems and he knows the solutions and what is possible. He's got a plan. It starts with defence and involves developing from within. It's the new NHL. Cap responsible.. very careful planning. And Therrien is achieving excellent results within these modern day NHL constraints. For my part, while no competent judge of professional coaches I've been very impressed with the MB - MT tandem, and really think MT has, as Patches stated been just great at getting the best out of every player. He's got the horses he has with all their known limitations and we've played some excellent hockey this year. We easily could have had this last series. Our team is a work in progress, and I think we can reasonably hope to be enjoying continuing progress. A final thought on MT is that I really liked the support and confidence he consistently showed for players and the team through thick and thin. I wish him continued success. Tbay has four powerplay goals tonight....so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 20, 2015 Author Share Posted May 20, 2015 I am so happy the Babcock drama is over Don can rest easy knowing that Babs is not available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Got awhile to wait yet boss. What would get Babcock to go to Hogtown? Simply $$ I assume... surely cant be that is an improving, positive nor competitive environment, tis for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Got awhile to wait yet boss. What would get Babcock to go to Hogtown? Simply $$ I assume... surely cant be that is an improving, positive nor competitive environment, tis for sure. 50 million smackeroos will turn a lot of guys heads. He should remember that when Brian Burke went there they paid him well, and then kicked his fat ass to the curb. No guarantees in good old T.O. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 That Shanahan is one smart cookie, paying boatload for a 1-time cup-winner, as Bowman told Babcock "you need good players to be a good coach", so without the likes of a Lidstrom, Holmstrom, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Yzerman + a smart GM and good owner, will see how he looks. I mean he isn't a Therrien, who can win with a limited roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 That Shanahan is one smart cookie, paying boatload for a 1-time cup-winner, as Bowman told Babcock "you need good players to be a good coach", so without the likes of a Lidstrom, Holmstrom, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Yzerman + a smart GM and good owner, will see how he looks. I mean he isn't a Therrien, who can win with a limited roster. Ha haaaa haaaaaaaaaa!!! Babcock will help TO, but I agree that he is probably overrated as a result of the NHL's bizarre tendency toward groupthink. He cashed in for the dough and in a few seasons will probably be as battered and tattered as everyone else who has tried to harpoon the White Whale that is success for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 NHL will need to bring in coach contract term limits! Before Bergevin offers Therrien a Pamela Wallin/Mike Duffy-like deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 NHL will need to bring in coach contract term limits! No need. You can fire them anytime and then just pay them to do nothing, then convince another team to terminate the contract and give you a draft pick for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 No need. You can fire them anytime and then just pay them to do nothing, then convince another team to terminate the contract and give you a draft pick for it. And Senators do exactly what different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs rule Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 And Senators do exactly what different? What exactly is that Wallin/Duffy deal? Is that where you get to steal until you get caught at which time everyone disavows any knowledge of you existence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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