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I am sure you know that the jury is deliberating his fate as we speak.

What are your thoughts?

I hope he goes down, I really do but I think he'll get off. The mother ruined the whole case. Without her, it was prolly a slam dunk.

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I hope he goes down if he's found guilty. I haven't been following the case though.

The least you can say about him is that he's weird. One can't help wondering where things went wrong. I sometimes listen to Billie Jean, one of the few Jackson songs I like, and I wonder what the Hell happened with that guy, 'cause he's looooooooooong gone. Christ, if I looked like that, I'd scare myself to death every morning when I look in the mirror!

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if he goes to jail he'll probably get protective solitary(celebrity + child molestation) and manditory psychological counselling. From everything I know about the guy he could have used that decades ago and maybe none of this craziness that passes for a life would have happened. I think everybody who has a TV understands this guy's psychosis except for himself, maybe he can be helped to some degree...

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As crazy as I might sound to some of you, I dont beleive Jackson was guilty of child molestation. Is he guilty of being ######ed in the head? Yes... Guilty of being a complete weirdo? Yes.

He's living in a fantasy world, he's trying to relive a childhood he never had (He was a child star obviously, and had a much different life then other kids). He also thinks he's Peter Pan. But do I think he touches little boys? Nope... He just thinks he's one.

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-Admits to sleeping in the same bed with young boys

-Admits their is nothing wrong with it

-Several witnesses see Jackson molesting boys

-Jackson looks at tons of pornography with boys

-Jackson has 7 locks, motion sensors in his bedroom door

-Several witnesses see Jackson feeding boys alcohol

It's text-book pedohilia. If it was anyone else, they'd be in jail. The case was doomed from the beginning, I mean how could Jackson get a fair trail? He is arguably the most popular person in the world.

If this guy was so innocent, why didn't his own defense cross-exam the boy who made the alligations?

[Edited on 2005/6/13 by Leafs Suck]

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Originally posted by Leafs Suck

-Admits to sleeping in the same bed with young boys

-Admits their is nothing wrong with it

-Several witnesses see Jackson molesting boys

-Jackson looks at tons of pornography with boys

-Jackson has 7 locks, motion sensors in his bedroom door

-Several witnesses see Jackson feeding boys alcohol

So you beleive everything you hear? Do any of these witnesses have any credibility? Have they ever proved themselves to not be gold-digging lowlifes?

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My problem with the "gold-digging" is that the kid got nothing outta the case either way. If he was suing him for 20 billion dollars, then I'd be more cynical.

The guy is just stupid. I mean he beat the rap 10 years ago, you'd figure someone would have said to him "stop sleeping with young boys".

Call me old fashion but sleeping in the same bed as young boys is extremley questionable. No one could talk their way outta that. At the least, Jacko's fans have to admit he clearly has several mental problems and should not have young children around him.

But when you live in a society where real heros are forgotten and vial, disgusting, criminal celebrites are idolized, then it should come as no suprise that Jackson is able to get away with this.

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One can only hope he keeps himself out of trouble. Chances are he won't be as lucky if there is a next time.

I also can't help thinking he's out of touch with reality. He seems to be a relatively easy target, which won't help him one bit in the future, no matter what happens.

I don't know too much about Jacko's background, but I believe his father pretty much ######ed up his childhood. I've heard his dad was quite the slave driver.

That said, a ######ed up childhood might explain some things, Jacko's eccentricity for example, but it's sure as Hell no excuse for molesting children.

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If the guy was so innocent the first time it happen then why would he pay off his accusers? He was guilty then and hes guilty now. I give that sick fu*k 4-5 years and he'll be back in court again. :nono:

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Originally posted by Doktor Kosmos

father pretty much ######ed up his childhood.

Yes he was. He used to physical abuse MJ. The fact he was their acting so "supporitve" was more disgusting then the verdict.

The whole situation is stupid. It's very hard to feel sorry for Jacko. This whole "lets get Jackson" conspiracy doesn't fly with me. It didn't with OJ, and it doesn't with this clown. Anyone who goes on TV and professes their love for young boys and the desire to sleep in a bed with them, is very very very hard to like. It's just creepy.

The guy is nuts. Really nuts.

And the fact Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are standing in his corner shows what little credibility they have left.

[Edited on 2005/6/14 by Leafs Suck]

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Anyone who goes on TV and professes their love for young boys and the desire to sleep in a bed with them, is very very very hard to like. It's just creepy.
Exactly.

This whole thing is like a Greek tragedy.

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Listen to the jury. One women basically admitted Jackson was a sleeze ball yet it's all the mothers fault for sending her boy to stay with him. Another was complaining about the mothers attitude. It just further proves my point that some people feel that if some people are in bad situations it's their own fault and the criminal is justified. It worked with Kobe, and it worked with Jacko.

Like one of the jurors was complaining about how hard it was to like the mother. Well how hard is it to like Jackson? The guy is so braindead that after beating the rap before he goes and does it again. Not to mention he goes on TV and admits it.

Interesting to hear juror #1 admit he thought Jackson was a child molestor but that he didn't molest this boy. Well my god, talk about a spinless human being. "Oh this guy murdered 20 people, just not this person so let them go free to do it again". C'mon.

[Edited on 2005/6/14 by Leafs Suck]

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you want murderers convicted of murders they didnt commit? To what end? So that you can clean up the dockets and allow whomever really commit the murder to go free?

I really havent paid any attention to the Jackson case, and it has always been my impression that the guy was doing something improper with those kids, but from everything i understand there was very little in the way of a case made.

Didnt people testify that Jackson never gave the kids alcohol, only hid his own drinking from them by putting his wine in coke cans? I know this is suspicious, but it is reasonable to say that he didnt think it was appropriate for kids to see adults have a glass of wine.

Didnt the mother and the brother totally fall apart on the stand?

PS - You often dont cross the accuser in this type of case. It is not an admission of guilt in any way. The kid is incredibly sympathetic and you dont want to lose your connection with the jury as a defender by badgering a little helpless child.

Paying settlements is not an admission of guilt. If i were Jackson's attorney I would probably have had him pay a settlement for this last case. I mean, the media has basically spent a decade telling us he is a child molester, how could he possibly get a fair trial (something to ponder for those who made the same point as if it were his advantage)?

Also, not coorperating with an investigation does not show guilt. If the cops walked into my appartment right now and started asking me about a crime they think i might have been even tangentially involved in, I am shutting up, going downtown, and getting my lawyer and never speak again until its over. I would suggest everybody do the same. Especially if you dont have a famous name to keep up scrutiny, the justice system does not always punish the wicked and reward the honest. People are wrongly convicted on a frequent enough basis of horrible and lesser crimes that it should give one pause.

In the end it should be again noted that I think Jackson is probably a molester, but I dont think it means that we should further pervert the American justice system. Until some prosecutor can put together a real case, he stays free. Dont be angry at Jackson, be angry at the DA.

[Edited on 6/14/2005 by simonus]

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Originally posted by simonus

you want murderers convicted of murders they didnt commit? To what end? So that you can clean up the dockets and allow whomever really commit the murder to go free?

Yay I do and I am sure alot of people feel the same but won't admit it.

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