kaos Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Meller93 said: Honestly why not offer sheet Draisatl for 9-9.8 mill a year, and immediately have him our 1st line centre if EDM didn't match? We lose 2 1sts, a 2nd, and a 3rd I believe. We sign a young, 20 year old who will almost certainly have more impact than those 4 picks. We could even try out Galchenyuk in the 2nd line role with easier minutes. Danault/Shaw/Flynn and Mitchell could take some of the hard minutes as well at centre. Top 9 of: Pacioretty - Draisaitl - Radulov Lehkonen - Galchenyuk - Gallagher Byron - Danault - Shaw That's honestly a really good top 9 all of a sudden. Defence: Markov - Weber Beaulieu - Petry Jerabek - ? We could optionally trade Beaulieu and keep Benn in the draft. I'm assuming Vegas would take Beaulieu if left exposed. And how did you get rid of Plekanec $6M and Emelin $4.1M ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Meller93 said: Below 9.8 is only 2 1sts. I'm not sure if forego 4 firsts. That's seriously impacting your prospect pool for the next half decade. 2 firsts yes. also, wouldn't 7 years be the maximum since we don't have Draisaitls rights? I'd do the 7. Whatever it takes 9-9.8 mill that means EDM doesn't match. Number of years determines number of picks. But, yeah, we'd only be able to do 7 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Commandant said: Yup, thats why i was asking the years. Interesting. So a 7x7 is the lowest that would fall under the two firsts. 7x7 = 49/5 = 9.8 mill a year EDM absolutely matches that. Which means I would offer a 9-9.8 over 5 years. Also as for Plex, best case, we manage to get Vegas to take him, potentially by trading them a few picks/prsopects. Emelin..? Unsure. Can't see him being traded easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 So we are also trading picks and prospects to get rid of plek, in addition to the picks needed to get Draisatl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 17 minutes ago, Commandant said: So we are also trading picks and prospects to get rid of plek, in addition to the picks needed to get Draisatl. Everyone is going to lose out during the expansion draft, besides Vegas of course. We have quite a few seconds over the next few years. Its a matter of asking what you would rather lose? Nate, or say a second and some prospect if necessary for them to take Plex. We have a win now team, we might as well actually win now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaos Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Pacioretty Danault Radulov Drouin Galchenyuk Gallagher Lehkonen Plekanec Byron Carr Mitchell Martinesen Beaulieu Weber Markov Petry Emelin Benn/Davidson Jerabek Problem is Habs brass says Galchenyuk ain't no centerman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 On 2017-06-15 at 3:35 PM, kaos said: Pacioretty Danault Radulov Drouin Galchenyuk Gallagher Lehkonen Plekanec Byron Carr Mitchell Martinesen Beaulieu Weber Markov Petry Emelin Benn/Davidson Jerabek Problem is Habs brass says Galchenyuk ain't no centerman. I would love to see: Pacioretty Danault Gallagher Drouin Galchenyuk Radulov Lehkonen Plekanec Byron Carr Mitchell Martinesen I think the line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Radulov would be a beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: I would love to see: Pacioretty Danault Gallagher Drouin Galchenyuk Radulov Lehkonen Plekanec Byron Carr Mitchell Martinesen I think the line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Radulov would be a beast Da auto on the top two lines is insane and keeping pleks is plain stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 6 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: I would love to see: Pacioretty Danault Gallagher Drouin Galchenyuk Radulov Lehkonen Plekanec Byron Carr Mitchell Martinesen I think the line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Radulov would be a There is no way Beregvin goes into next season looking like that. Its basically the exact same line up as last year. Bergy's career is on the line at this point. He can't just coast into next season like he has in previous year, using some bullshit excuse about players being too expensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan1989 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I wouldn't mind if the team looks like this next year and we go all in for a cup run pacioretty-Thornton-radulov drouin-galchenyuk-yakupov lehkonen-danault-gallagher byron-Mitchell-shaw alzner- Weber markov-petry schlemko-benn price i think that's a much deeper roster and one that could make a cup run maybe even win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Say what you want, I think that second line could do some damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stogey24 said: Say what you want, I think that second line could do some damage I'd love to see it, but even if we did sign yakapov and give galchenyuk a shot at centre, can you see Julien putting three guys who are all weak defensively on one line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stogey24 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 43 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: I'd love to see it, but even if we did sign yakapov and give galchenyuk a shot at centre, can you see Julien putting three guys who are all weak defensively on one line? True. Probably not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Here's my prediction at next year's lineup: Pacioretty - Nugent-Hopkins - Radulov Drouin - Danault - Galchenyuk Lehkonen - Bonino - Shaw Martinsen - Mitchell - Byron De La Rose Markov - Weber Schlemko - Petry Davidson - Benn Jerabek Price Montoya *Note: Gallagher traded for Nugent-Hopkins, Plekanec traded for draft pick (50% salary retained) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, JGC21 said: Here's my prediction at next year's lineup: Pacioretty - Nugent-Hopkins - Radulov Drouin - Danault - Galchenyuk Lehkonen - Bonino - Shaw Martinsen - Mitchell - Byron De La Rose Markov - Weber Schlemko - Petry Davidson - Benn Jerabek Price Montoya *Note: Gallagher traded for Nugent-Hopkins, Plekanec traded for draft pick (50% salary retained) That's a brutal D and I'd value Gallagher over the Nuge. All my oiler friend hate him. There is a reason he is on he third line in Edmonton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 51 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: That's a brutal D and I'd value Gallagher over the Nuge. All my oiler friend hate him. There is a reason he is on he third line in Edmonton No doubt that McDavid and Draisatl passed him by on the depth chart. They probably need to save some money and dealing RNH makes sense. Now, dealing Gallagher means that Radulov and Galchenyuk are signed and ahead of him on the RW depth chart for the Habs. Makes sense for both teams really. Agreed, the D is weak and no doubt MB signs a new LHD - questions is who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 58 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: That's a brutal D and I'd value Gallagher over the Nuge. All my oiler friend hate him. There is a reason he is on he third line in Edmonton He's on the third line cause McDavid and Draisaitl are REALLY ####ING GOOD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Commandant said: He's on the third line cause McDavid and Draisaitl are REALLY ####ING GOOD. He was regressing for the past 4 years. If he wasn't so average, they'd play him on the wing on the top two lines. He has never lived up to his hype or potential. Given that most teams value a centre over a winger, it's an indictment on him that the oilers could only get a quality Dman for Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 fascinating bit on the Nuge here: http://globalnews.ca/news/3478384/blog-todd-mclellan-goes-to-bat-for-eberle-and-nugent-hopkins-on-oilers-now/ Basically his coach is encouraging him to be *less* of a complete player and to take more risks on offence! This sounds like Team Fuddy Duddy's dream player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said: He was regressing for the past 4 years. If he wasn't so average, they'd play him on the wing on the top two lines. He has never lived up to his hype or potential. Given that most teams value a centre over a winger, it's an indictment on him that the oilers could only get a quality Dman for Hall. RNH spent most of the season centering the second line while Draisatl played wing with McDavid. The Hall return had nothing to do with RNH and everything to do with bringing in a defenseman. They were able to take a loss on that deal because they had Lucic waiting to sign there and replace Hall in the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGC21 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Show me the money... Bonino - 4 years/$16M (AAV $4M) Galchenyuk - 2 years/$10M (AAV $5M) Markov - 2 years/$11.5M (AAV $5.75M) Alzner - 4 years/$18M (AAV $4.5M) Pacioretty - Bonino - Galchenyuk Drouin - Danault - Gallagher Lehkonen - Shaw - Hudon Martinsen - De La Rose - Byron Plekanec, Mitchell Alzner - Weber Markov - Petry Schlemko - Benn Davidson Price Montoya The only trade MB makes is dumping Plex (some salary retained, for a 3rd round pick). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, illWill said: RNH spent most of the season centering the second line while Draisatl played wing with McDavid. The Hall return had nothing to do with RNH and everything to do with bringing in a defenseman. They were able to take a loss on that deal because they had Lucic waiting to sign there and replace Hall in the lineup. It was widely reported that chiarrelli tried moving RNH for a top pairing dman but wasn't able to do so. He also tried hard to move RNH for Larsson, but NJ insisted on Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habscout Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 As much as I would love to see both Markov and Radulov back, I predict that only one of them will return, or neither will. Radulov appears to be looking for a home run contract and I suspect another team will give him the term he's looking for. Markov's move to represent himself, along with his previous action to become a Canadian citizen a few years ago, indicates he wants to stay. Bergevin would probably prefer to only give him 1 season but I think in the end they will settle on 2 seasons. As much as the Habs desperately need a top 6 center, it's unlikely they will attract any of the big names such as Thornton, Marleau or even Bonino. They may have a chance at Sam Gagner, who seems to have the least amount of rumours about where he may end up. I also predict they will sign a lesser known higher rick player like Stephane Da Costa or Andrei Loktionov,. Both of which are bottom six players but could give the Habs the flexibility to temporarily bump them into the top 2 lines when the Habs offence is not working for a game or two. Another UFA the Habs may consider signing is Francois Beauchemin, who played relatively well on a terrible Avalanche team last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Well, just a day or two before will know how lineup will look. At this point, just gotta hope 47-79 get resigned, Galchneyuk is given long term (6 or 7 yr) deal and can somehow add a #2 centre or a 20+minute LH d-man. http://www.tsn.ca/tsn-hockey-top-ufas-list-1.519064 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 I've kinda settled in my own mind that I'd like to see the Habs sign Jumbo Joe as a patchup fix at C. Even in his dotage, he and Pacioretty could make a deadly duo. Whether it can work with the cap, term, etc, is another question. But let me ask something else. Both Drouin and Galy have some experience at C. Is it completely insane to imagine that THEY could both be C for next season? I haven't heard a Galy-Drouin duo down the middle discussed much, but as crazy as it sounds, it would sure solve a lot of roster problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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