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Neech    87

I don't know if Pleks gets a 2nd at the deadline. His value as a depth forward is greatly diminished now by his lack of speed, and he isn't Canadian and thus lacks that 'character' that some GM's are still willing to overpay for.  

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13 hours ago, Neech said:

I don't know if Pleks gets a 2nd at the deadline. His value as a depth forward is greatly diminished now by his lack of speed, and he isn't Canadian and thus lacks that 'character' that some GM's are still willing to overpay for.  

 

He still has a good reputation defensively around the league.

 

As a 3C with 50% retained, not getting a 2nd would be a bit of a blunder.

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Commandant    663

There is also supply and demand. 

 

Teams want centres. 

 

Not many centres are available. 

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huzer    66

I know Plex is older, but is Hanzal being dealt last year to Minny somewhat comparable?

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DON    38
1 hour ago, huzer said:

I know Plex is older, but is Hanzal being dealt last year to Minny somewhat comparable?

what did he cost

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Trizzak    522
1 hour ago, Commandant said:

There is also supply and demand. 

 

Teams want centres. 

 

Not many centres are available. 

 

Just to add to this, the rental centremen* on teams definitely selling right now:

 

Nick Dowd (VAN) - $650 000

Jordan Nolan (BUF) - $950 000

Jacob Josefson (BUF) - $700 000

Mark Letestu (EDM) - $1 800 000

Mike Cammalleri (EDM) - $1 000 000

 

*can play centre, but some are better as wingers.

 

Sure, a couple more teams will probably decide to sell by the deadline, and a couple teams might trade centers with more term, but Plekanec is still likely going to be the best pure-centre available. 

 

Bidding starts at a 2nd rounder. Whoever sweetens that pot the most will get Pleks.

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huzer    66
14 minutes ago, DON said:

what did he cost

To Minny: Hanzal, White, 4th rounder

To AZ: 1st 2017, 2nd 2018, conditional 2019, Grayson Downing.

 

I know they aren't the same player, but both UFA, both respected 3rd line Cs (at this point in his career).

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hab29RETIRED    181
On 2018-01-12 at 1:49 PM, huzer said:

To Minny: Hanzal, White, 4th rounder

To AZ: 1st 2017, 2nd 2018, conditional 2019, Grayson Downing.

 

I know they aren't the same player, but both UFA, both respected 3rd line Cs (at this point in his career).

Minny Owner said that deal should never have been made.  Considering Hanzal was a better player, I can’t see getting anything close to that for plex.

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1 hour ago, huzer said:

I know Plex is older, but is Hanzal being dealt last year to Minny somewhat comparable?

 

Somewhat. Hanzal also has a lot of size and people thought he could be more if he got out of Arizona. He has been a considerable disappointment in Dallas, as they expected him to be good enough to be a 2C so Spezza could move to the wing. 

 

For guys that might actually be on market you got Backlund (CGY), Bozak (TOR), Ryan (CAR), Filppula (PHI), Plekanec (MTL), Vermette (ANA), and Letestu (EDM). Plekanec, Letestu, and Backlund are the best defensively. Bozak and Backlund are the best offensively but might not be moved. Filppula and Plekanec cost the most to move unless cap retained. Unless the Blues decide to move Stastny, it's an awful selection. Teams might stand put, but that's about it. Oh, former Habs Desharnais and Eller are UFA but I doubt New York and Washington move them.

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Trizzak    522
2 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said:

For guys that might actually be on market you got Backlund (CGY), Bozak (TOR), Ryan (CAR), Filppula (PHI), Plekanec (MTL), Vermette (ANA), and Letestu (EDM). Plekanec, Letestu, and Backlund are the best defensively. Bozak and Backlund are the best offensively but might not be moved. Filppula and Plekanec cost the most to move unless cap retained. Unless the Blues decide to move Stastny, it's an awful selection. Teams might stand put, but that's about it.

 

I don't see Toronto moving Bozak. Carolina has pressure to add for a playoff run, not subtract. Calgary also seems likely to make a push. Anaheim is just getting healthy and they think they have a shot at a wildcard.

 

Philly though, I can see them selling Filppula even if they are close to a playoff spot.

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1 hour ago, Trizzak said:

 

I don't see Toronto moving Bozak. Carolina has pressure to add for a playoff run, not subtract. Calgary also seems likely to make a push. Anaheim is just getting healthy and they think they have a shot at a wildcard.

 

Philly though, I can see them selling Filppula even if they are close to a playoff spot.

 

Yeah that's why I said might. By the trade deadline some of those teams might be further out and be willing to trade them. It wouldn't take much for Calgary or Anaheim to stumble. 

 

Filppula and Plek will be the big battle as both have similar contracts, both teams will try to retain 50%, and both have similar stats. Teams will be deciding who they prefer as a 3C/4C.

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Trizzak    522
1 hour ago, Machine of Loving Grace said:

 

Yeah that's why I said might. By the trade deadline some of those teams might be further out and be willing to trade them. It wouldn't take much for Calgary or Anaheim to stumble. 

 

Filppula and Plek will be the big battle as both have similar contracts, both teams will try to retain 50%, and both have similar stats. Teams will be deciding who they prefer as a 3C/4C.

 

Notably, Filppula has a modified no-trade-clause which he might use to limit his destinations. He used it last season to nix a trade to Montreal, but he will probably be more open to spending ~3 months with any playoff contender than he was last year to play an extra season in Montreal.

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CoRvInA    0

Radu just scored his "signature" backhand goal against the bruins...  sigh

Stars up 2 nil

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Stogey24    286

Only on pace for like 80pts. No biggie 

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Chris    3

Habs don't need scoring

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hab29RETIRED    181
36 minutes ago, Chris said:

Habs don't need scoring

Who needs scoring when you have so much character:huh:

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DON    38
3 hours ago, Stogey24 said:

Only on pace for like 80pts. No biggie 

McDonagh has zero goals.

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Link67    124
3 hours ago, DON said:

McDonagh has zero goals.

 

Actual Footage of DON swatting aside criticism of Letting Radulov and Markov walk this summer and replacing them with 9 million in cap space. 

 

ZealousUnfinishedJackrabbit-size_restric

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Stogey24    286
4 hours ago, DON said:

McDonagh has zero goals.

I like pizza 

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DON    38
21 hours ago, Stogey24 said:

I like pizza 

Sergachev 1a -4 in last 5 games.  

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