DON Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Some NHL combine stuff https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-scouting-combine-day-four/c-298871150?tid=289593026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 31 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: No single player is the reason Montreal lost, but Shaw was clearly signed to be a top nine player with powerplay time and that's not a role he can ever properly handle. Even in the bottom six he's getting powerplay time. He shouldn't get a second of it unless filling for injury. Being overpaid and costing too much in a trade is why Shaw is a problem. We also had absolutely no need for him. He's a poor man's Gallagher that takes more penalties. Alzner is a negative asset. No matter what you pay him, it's too much. That's fine but eller should not be top 6 or PP either. I'm just saying t ok me shaw is not really an issue. I wasnt happy when he was signed. I started a thread right away saying he was overpaid for too much term. But after watching him play, I like him as a 3rd liner. He is overpaid by about a million so was eller. He cost 2 seconds. So did eller. He is mis cast as a top 6er. So was eller. I like shaw more because of his work ethic, ability to win puck battles. Shaw is not a 4th liner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Pleks was overpaid by 5 mill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, BCHabnut said: That's fine but eller should not be top 6 or PP either. I'm just saying t ok me shaw is not really an issue. I wasnt happy when he was signed. I started a thread right away saying he was overpaid for too much term. But after watching him play, I like him as a 3rd liner. He is overpaid by about a million so was eller. He cost 2 seconds. So did eller. He is mis cast as a top 6er. So was eller. I like shaw more because of his work ethic, ability to win puck battles. Shaw is not a 4th liner. I mean... yeah, that's why I've always stuck to that we should have traded Eller (good trade) and never tried trading for Shaw. That $3.5M could have been used elsewhere better. In a choice between the two I want neither, get two second rounders, and keep our second rounders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Habopotamus said: Shaw scares me. I think he's on the verge of being damaged goods, with all of these head injuries Alzner is a prime example of character trumping talent. Funny how the caps are doing much better without his character. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 The Shaw comparison to Eller should be moot considering Danault was supposed to be the one to fill Eller’s role. As for Ott, Martinsen, King et al., we’re complaining about Bergevin having picked up those players as opposed to having done nothing. That was a terrible trade deadline and yet people still harp on it. As though Stafford, Vrbata or Eaves would have made such a huge difference on our team. As for Martinsen for Andrighetto... I remember being one of the few, if not the only one, sad to see him go. There were basically no comments stating that it was a terrible move. When Alzner was signed, I wasn’t pleased. But I did acknowledge that he was basically the most sought after free agent draft pick. When we signed him, we had people who are now complaining about him, discuss how Weber and Alzner could be one of the elite shut down pairs. I sincerely never bought into that myself, but a lot of this complaining is revisionist, as well as expecting the impossible. I didn’t love Sergachev for Drouin as well, just so peole don’t think I like everything that happens... but then again most people once again did like that move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: As for Ott, Martinsen, King et al., we’re complaining about Bergevin having picked up those players as opposed to having done nothing. That was a terrible trade deadline and yet people still harp on it. As though Stafford, Vrbata or Eaves would have made such a huge difference on our team. As for Martinsen for Andrighetto... I remember being one of the few, if not the only one, sad to see him go. There were basically no comments stating that it was a terrible move. When Alzner was signed, I wasn’t pleased. But I did acknowledge that he was basically the most sought after free agent draft pick. When we signed him, we had people who are now complaining about him, discuss how Weber and Alzner could be one of the elite shut down pairs. I sincerely never bought into that myself, but a lot of this complaining is revisionist, as well as expecting the impossible. Honestly, nothing was better than the trash fires we decided to bring in. Better experience for the young kids in the playoffs was better than a bunch of awful grinders. Your memory isn't perfect since some disliked it, some thought it was nothing for nothing, and one person in Lovett, well, loved it: http://forums.habsworld.net/index.php?/topic/25715-habs-trade-sven-andrighetto-to-colorado/ "Most sought after free agent pick" I swear I could switch Alzner for David Clarkson and you're saying the same thing Leafs fans said about that signing. That's not a valid excuse for making a bad decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I read the Hurricanes may have some interest in drafting Tcachuk at #2, That would be a nice gift for the habs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Chris said: I read the Hurricanes may have some interest in drafting Tcachuk at #2, That would be a nice gift for the habs. Where did you see this? Svechnikov would be incredible. I’m in favour of trading up to #2 if the canes are willing to part with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, Meller93 said: Where did you see this? Svechnikov would be incredible. I’m in favour of trading up to #2 if the canes are willing to part with it Likely the recent interview by the Hurricanes where they talked about the positives of Svechnikov, Tkachuk, and Zadina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 it was from a yahoo sports site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, Chris said: it was from a yahoo sports site. http://torontosun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ottawa-senators/hurricanes-gm-open-to-offers-on-no-2-pick/wcm/3338a769-04b4-44d6-97fe-f11497ee02a0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 43 minutes ago, Meller93 said: I’m in favour of trading up to #2 if the canes are willing to part with it Too expensive, rarely happens that high in draft, #3 wont be chopped liver player and just think odds of that are almost nil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I have no idea what the Canes are going to do. That franchise may have gone looney. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, Commandant said: I have no idea what the Canes are going to do. That franchise may have gone looney. Sure you do. They are taking Svechnikov with #2 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 51 minutes ago, DON said: Too expensive, rarely happens that high in draft, #3 wont be chopped liver player and just think odds of that are almost nil. If the canes are open to trading the pick, and we have the #3 pick, I don’t see it being too expensive potentially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 43 minutes ago, Meller93 said: If the canes are open to trading the pick, and we have the #3 pick, I don’t see it being too expensive potentially. Anything is possible and I think every GM, aside from Sabres, should be open to trading their pick for the "right" deal. I just think Habs will be making the 3rd pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 3 hours ago, DON said: Anything is possible and I think every GM, aside from Sabres, should be open to trading their pick for the "right" deal. I just think Habs will be making the 3rd pick. I think you’re right, I just want the second really badly hahah. I like Svechnikov as a prospect quite a bit more than Zadina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Long interview with Svechnikov...and his attractive translator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 And Zadina https://www.nhl.com/canadiens/news/filip-zadina-spoke-with-reporters-on-friday-afternoon/c-298890634 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Will Bergevin be a 'Scrooge' and trade some of those picks away? The Habs usually hold their own combine but doing one in Sweden is something new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 2 hours ago, DON said: Long interview with Svechnikov...and his attractive translator. I only watched the interview because of her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 All important heights-weights. https://thehockeywriters.com/2018-nhl-combine-heights-weights/ I guess key ones for Habs 1st pick anyways; Svechnikov 6'2" 192 Tkachuk 6'3" 192 Zadina 6' 0.25" 197 Whalstrom 6' 1.25" 208 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Combine test results https://link.nhl.com/centralscouting/public/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Pronman has Kotkaniemi right in our wheelhouse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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