alfredoh2009 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I listened to the press conference and he didn't impress me there, he was underwhelming but listening to the interview afterwards he sounded ready to make the changes needs to redeem himsel he better deliver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 52 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: He also re-stated that he did set the market for Radu with his initial offer made in January, but the agent's term request was for 8 yrs, that didn't change until June. He restated that his offer was the exact same as what he got from Dallas not less because of taxes. He also took the blame for misjudging (his word) on the quality of his défense. He said he wants to be the one to mend this He also told everyone publicly it was a final offer so he didn't try to beat it. Bad GMing. And oh he's the one to fix the defence he created? How convenient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DON Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: I listened to the press conference and he didn't impress me there, he was underwhelming but listening to the interview afterwards he sounded ready to make the changes needs to redeem himsel he better deliver Agree on the press conference, "attitude" is new issue I guess and transparency also to be a new goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, DON said: Agree on the press conference, "attitude" is new issue I guess and transparency also to be a new goal. Also better food at the bell centre. This is another strategy for them to fix the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: He also told everyone publicly it was a final offer so he didn't try to beat it. Bad GMing Yes, what did he say, "I offered him same deal...I cant just give him a million more." I was thinking why not, he overpaid for likes of Briere, Shaw, Moan, Plekanec, DD, Emelin, Alzner and Radulov is a bit better player. Edited April 10, 2018 by DON add Shaw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Apologies to d zephyr. We turned his "How to fix the Habs" thread into a press conference bitching fest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaos Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Pray the ping pong balls fall correctly on April 28th and Montreal wins draft lottery and selects Rasmus Dahlin Then pray that Tavares doesn't resign with The NYI and signs with Montreal. Id trade Pacioretty since he'll be unaffordable after next year. Lehkonen Tavares Scherbak Drouin Galchenyuk Gallagher Bryon Danault Hudon Deslaurier A Shaw Rychel de la Rose Mete Weber Dahlin Petry Benn Reilly Juulsen Price Lindgren Since all of this is highly unlikely I'm not sure how you fix what's wrong with this team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, kaos said: Pray the ping pong balls fall correctly on April 28th and Montreal wins draft lottery and selects Rasmus Dahlin Then pray that Tavares doesn't resign with The NYI and signs with Montreal. Id trade Pacioretty since he'll be unaffordable after next year. Lehkonen Tavares Scherbak Drouin Galchenyuk Gallagher Bryon Danault Hudon Deslaurier A Shaw Rychel de la Rose Mete Weber Dahlin Petry Benn Reilly Juulsen Price Lindgren Since all of this is highly unlikely I'm not sure how you fix what's wrong with this team I can’t see anything fixed with this team until the biggest problem - it’s management is fixed. I had to hold off posting anything after yesterday’s ridiculous press conference. Is there anyone actually left that supports that moron MB??? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: I can’t see anything fixed with this team until the biggest problem - it’s management is fixed. I had to hold off posting anything after yesterday’s ridiculous press conference. Is there anyone actually left that supports that moron MB??? Me! Me! Me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 It's pretty discouraging. kaos's post is sound. Even without Tavares and Dahlin, I can see a scenario where the Habs get back to being a decent team and make the playoffs. But I have a whole heap of trouble imagining a scenario whereby they become legitimate contenders. In the past I posited a 3-year retool with contention being possible around year three. That's surely still possible, but it'd require a management group with a cold eye for the right moves. Which we haven't got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, kaos said: Since all of this is highly unlikely I'm not sure how you fix what's wrong with this team Need to trade for a centre and add a top 4 d-man as well. (not a secret, but to make it happen will not be easy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, DON said: Need to trade for a centre and add a top 4 d-man as well. (not a secret, but to make it happen will not be easy) It would be interesting to hear specific ideas on "how to fix the Habs" that do NOT include Tavares and Dahlin. That, after all, is the likeliest scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: It would be interesting to hear specific ideas on "how to fix the Habs" that do NOT include Tavares and Dahlin. That, after all, is the likeliest scenario. Sign Nick Holden Sign Paul Stastny Trade Pacioretty + draft pick for Jeff Carter Before I hear how old he is, we’re basically the youngest team in the league. Sign James Neal/JVR Neal - Carter - Gallagher Galchenyuk - Stastny - Drouin Hudon - Danault - Scherbak Deslauriers - Shaw - Lehkonen Holden - Weber Alzner - Petry Mete - Reilly/Schlemko Price Niemi 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: Sign Nick Holden Sign Paul Stastny Trade Pacioretty + draft pick for Jeff Carter Before I hear how old he is, we’re basically the youngest team in the league. Sign James Neal/JVR Neal - Carter - Gallagher Galchenyuk - Stastny - Drouin Hudon - Danault - Scherbak Deslauriers - Shaw - Lehkonen Holden - Weber Alzner - Petry Mete - Reilly/Schlemko Price Niemi Because of his age would he cost pacioretty plus a pick? Probably because he’s a center I suppose. interesting couple options for sure. I actually like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Meller93 said: Because of his age would he cost pacioretty plus a pick? Probably because he’s a center I suppose. interesting couple options for sure. I actually like it It's a classic "patchwork" lineup that probably would be quite competitive on the front end, before those old players start declining. Best we can realistically hope for, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: It's a classic "patchwork" lineup that probably would be quite competitive on the front end, before those old players start declining. Best we can realistically hope for, I suppose. The title of the thread. I read it as how to have a competitive team next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Meller93 said: Because of his age would he cost pacioretty plus a pick? Probably because he’s a center I suppose. interesting couple options for sure. I actually like it Carter also has a few years left at a decent hit whereas Pacioretty’s contract is expiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 43 minutes ago, xXx..CK..xXx said: Sign Nick Holden Sign Paul Stastny Trade Pacioretty + draft pick for Jeff Carter Before I hear how old he is, we’re basically the youngest team in the league. Sign James Neal/JVR Neal - Carter - Gallagher Galchenyuk - Stastny - Drouin Hudon - Danault - Scherbak Deslauriers - Shaw - Lehkonen Holden - Weber Alzner - Petry Mete - Reilly/Schlemko Price Niemi I like the top six. That defence is still embarrassing. Also don't know how the Habs afford Neal/Carter/Stastny/Holden. Or why Neal leaves Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: It would be interesting to hear specific ideas on "how to fix the Habs" that do NOT include Tavares and Dahlin. That, after all, is the likeliest scenario. Stop gap Paul Stastny Trade Pacioretty for a young centre we are developping (Robert Thomas, Sam Steel, Henrik Borgstrom, etc...) and a 1st rounder (2019) Trade Paul Byron for help at LD. Take the best available prospect with our first round pick, even if its a winger. Use the four 2nd round picks are all centres and dmen. This isn't turning you into a contender right away... the idea is get back into the playoffs next year. Have a bunch of picks, get some centres and defence to build with, and be ready to contend in year 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Commandant said: Stop gap Paul Stastny Trade Pacioretty for a young centre we are developping (Robert Thomas, Sam Steel, Henrik Borgstrom, etc...) and a 1st rounder (2019) Trade Paul Byron for help at LD. Take the best available prospect with our first round pick, even if its a winger. Use the four 2nd round picks are all centres and dmen. This isn't turning you into a contender right away... the idea is get back into the playoffs next year. Have a bunch of picks, get some centres and defence to build with, and be ready to contend in year 3. - Accept the fact that Sylvain Lefebvre will be an assistant coach next season so what's the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: - Accept the fact that Sylvain Lefebvre will be an assistant coach next season so what's the point I was under the impression that I was being named GM in this hypothetical scenario and I had to fix the Habs. Lefebvre would be the first one fired... it went without saying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, Commandant said: I was under the impression that I was being named GM in this hypothetical scenario and I had to fix the Habs. Lefebvre would be the first one fired... it went without saying. Really? The first? I'd expect you to be stomping down the hallways shouting, "WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SCOUTING MIKE MCCARRON!?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Really? The first? I'd expect you to be stomping down the hallways shouting, "WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SCOUTING MIKE MCCARRON!?" I just assumed that was bergevin's hurr durr reaction to the 2013 Ottawa series that demanded McCarron and Crisp, and also signed Parros and Douglas Murray, but finding that scouting report is actually a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Commandant said: I just assumed that was bergevin's hurr durr reaction to the 2013 Ottawa series that demanded McCarron and Crisp, and also signed Parros and Douglas Murray, but finding that scouting report is actually a good idea. When McCarron was drafted, one of the first people to get a photo with him up on the podium was North American amateur scout Frank Jay. He now works for the Oilers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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