Metallica Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I for one have always thought this to be the most stupid tradition in sports. Never really understood it. I think its time to say goodbye to it. If you're a team from Washington and you win a championship you should get a invite since the white house is in Washington. But other than that I don't understand why any other sports team should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Metallica said: I for one have always thought this to be the most stupid tradition in sports. Never really understood it. I think its time to say goodbye to it. If you're a team from Washington and you win a championship you should get a invite since the white house is in Washington. But other than that I don't understand why any other sports team should. Lately it’s also caused a crazy amount of controversy. But it goes back even to people like Tim Thomas not going because of Obama. In my opinion sports and Politics don’t really need to mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, Meller93 said: Lately it’s also caused a crazy amount of controversy. But it goes back even to people like Tim Thomas not going because of Obama. In my opinion sports and Politics don’t really need to mix The Tim Thomas controversy was one more media driven and Bruins owner/Mgmt srivwnz Obama didn’t revoke the invite, because Thomas didn’t attend, or tweet our absurd responses like a 9 year old who feels they have been insulted. i have no issues with athletes using their position to take a political stand, or create awareness for what they believe in. I for one think it’s a shame most hockey players are to afraid of rocking the boat to take a stand when at times they probably should - even if it’s to their own detriment. In ability to go against the status quo, out of fear of rocking the boat, is the reason why the NHL had the weakest union until the the early 90’s and guys like Eagleson were able to rip off players, while guys like Harvey who took a stand got blacklisted. But than I was a big fan of Mohammed Ali growing up, for both his ability as a boxer and the stand he took. I also didn’t have an issue with kaepernick - it’s too bad his peers didn’t support him when he first started his protests. On the other hand i do have an issue with a wing but leader of the free world who behaves like an adolescent anytime anyone criticizes him or has different beliefs than him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Meller93 said: Lately it’s also caused a crazy amount of controversy. But it goes back even to people like Tim Thomas not going because of Obama. In my opinion sports and Politics don’t really need to mix The media played the race card with Thomas. Because he was white and Obama black. I find it funny now that the role is reverse and the players are black and trump is white that you don't see the media turning this into race like they did with Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, hab29RETIRED said: The Tim Thomas controversy was one more media driven and Bruins owner/Mgmt srivwnz Obama didn’t revoke the invite, because Thomas didn’t attend, or tweet our absurd responses like a 9 year old who feels they have been insulted. i have no issues with athletes using their position to take a political stand, or create awareness for what they believe in. I for one think it’s a shame most hockey players are to afraid of rocking the boat to take a stand when at times they probably should - even if it’s to their own detriment. In ability to go against the status quo, out of fear of rocking the boat, is the reason why the NHL had the weakest union until the the early 90’s and guys like Eagleson were able to rip off players, while guys like Harvey who took a stand got blacklisted. But than I was a big fan of Mohammed Ali growing up, for both his ability as a boxer and the stand he took. I also didn’t have an issue with kaepernick - it’s too bad his peers didn’t support him when he first started his protests. On the other hand i do have an issue with a wing but leader of the free world who behaves like an adolescent anytime anyone criticizes him or has different beliefs than him. Well said, sir. Agree across the board. Left to my own devices, I'd probably go, just to have the story of meeting Cataline to tell my grandkids. But if a single member of my team had taken a stand on the anthem, then I wouldn't go, out of solidarity with him. Not a wholly consistent position, but there it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 28 minutes ago, Metallica said: The media played the race card with Thomas. Because he was white and Obama black. I find it funny now that the role is reverse and the players are black and trump is white that you don't see the media turning this into race like they did with Thomas. If you were a black player you’d have justification not going yo the whitehouse to see a president who basically called klan members “good people”. I went even get into his “Africa” comments. It has nothing to do with trump being white, it has everything to do with Trump being a racist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 46 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: If you were a black player you’d have justification not going yo the whitehouse to see a president who basically called klan members “good people”. I went even get into his “Africa” comments. It has nothing to do with trump being white, it has everything to do with Trump being a racist. Oh I know that, I just saying how the media spins it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 F Trump is my position 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I watch sports so I dont have to think about politics and how divided the world is becoming. I hate it when they blend. Got no time for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 8 hours ago, BCHabnut said: I watch sports so I dont have to think about politics and how divided the world is becoming. I hate it when they blend. Got no time for it. The tricky thing is that they *are* blended. Under current circumstances, accepting the invitation to the White House is as much a "political statement" as not accepting it - a point that bland "I'm just a hockey player" types like Sidney Crosby are incapable of fathoming, of course. The one problem with Ovechkin winning the Cup is his absolutely terrible politics, but what are you gonna do. I still delighted in seeing him raise that thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 2 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: The tricky thing is that they *are* blended. Under current circumstances, accepting the invitation to the White House is as much a "political statement" as not accepting it - a point that bland "I'm just a hockey player" types like Sidney Crosby are incapable of fathoming, of course. The one problem with Ovechkin winning the Cup is his absolutely terrible politics, but what are you gonna do. I still delighted in seeing him raise that thing. I give ovechkin a pass for his politics and beliefs, given his background and where he is from. Not so for Crosby, whose just afraid I Rick the boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I like the Crosby method myself. I don't know if he's liberal, conservative, libertarian, socialist, gay, straight. And I don't care. It makes me happy when he makes things happen on the ice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 If you don't support sports and politics mixing, then you support getting rid of the national anthem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 (edited) Is more a patriotic than political thing isn't it? Every country has it played at international events, no matter politics of country. Its how some athletes react that can be controversial, like the guys taking a knee. or these guys. Edited June 10, 2018 by DON 2nd thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: If you don't support sports and politics mixing, then you support getting rid of the national anthem. I do support getting rid of the anthem. Just play the game. Play the anthem at international events. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 If ovie is still drunk wearing those flip flops, I fully support his white house visit. Guy is a savage. I knew his celebration would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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