Prime Minister Koivu Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 On 6/28/2018 at 11:21 AM, Habopotamus said: Per Gord Miller... Most goals, top 2 centres last season: VGK Karlsson/Haula 72 Pit Malkin/Crosby 71 Edm McDavid/Draisaitl 66 Tor Matthews/Kadri 66 (Matthews missed 20 games) Last 2 seasons: Pit Crosby/Malkin 148 Tor Matthews/Kadri 138 MTL Drouin/Danault 21 Last 2 seasons MTL Danault/Plekanec 37 Holy crap that is one brutal stat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Holy crap that is one brutal stat! Yup and the Galchenyuk trade didn't address it, which is a bit worrisome, given that Habs have limited trade bait. (e.g. couldn't they have got Robert Thomas or other centre prospect from St Louis for Galchenyuk?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, DON said: Yup and the Galchenyuk trade didn't address it, which is a bit worrisome, given that Habs have limited trade bait. (e.g. couldn't they have got Robert Thomas or other centre prospect from St Louis for Galchenyuk?) I guess those guys didn't have the right attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I guess those guys didn't have the right attitude. Just seems so goofy, they don't need another lame motto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 49 minutes ago, DON said: Just seems so goofy, they don't need another lame motto. http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/hockey-inside-out/stu-cowan-canadiens-attitude-shift-extends-to-prospects?video_autoplay=true Sadly, our GM seems to be stupid enough to sincerely believe the motto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I like someone's idea that Colorado should come out with, "Altitude is Everything" shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 So doughty just got 11mil a year, we are yet to see what Tavares will get and Karlsson . Can someone remind me why we had all these lock outs and put a salary cap in ??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, Metallica said: So doughty just got 11mil a year, we are yet to see what Tavares will get and Karlsson . Can someone remind me why we had all these lock outs and put a salary cap in ??????? The players make 50% of league revenues. If salaries rise its cause the owners are making more money too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, Metallica said: So doughty just got 11mil a year, we are yet to see what Tavares will get and Karlsson . Can someone remind me why we had all these lock outs and put a salary cap in ??????? League is making more money, better TV contracts, nobody in serious trouble unless you count how long the Coyotes have been a failure. When the lockout happened there were around eight teams losing a lot of money with danger of either relocation or being sold. We had Sakic making $15M back in 1997. We will finally have this season two players making $15M in Price and McDavid. People forget how crazy contracts got in the mid to late 90s with the top stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I just feel like I lost a year of watching my favorite players play for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 You lost a year cause owners couldnt stay within a budget without rules that force them to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 39 minutes ago, Metallica said: I just feel like I lost a year of watching my favorite players play for nothing. It wasn't for nothing. Ottawa had the best chance at a Cup in 04-05. So we stopped ourselves from that abomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 JvR is off the list, his going back to the Flyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 O'Reilly is going to the Blues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Buffalo winds up taking back pretty much the same salary as O'Reilly's signing bonus. Interesting - I thought they'd get one of Sobotka/Berglund, not both. And Buffalo got their 1st/2nd/good prospect (Thompson was a fairly recent 1st rounder). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 They can have him at that cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 A Montreal roughly equivalent offer: STL 2019 1st --- MTL 2019 1st STL 2021 2nd --- MTL 2021 2nd Thompson --- Juulsen Berglund --- Danault Sobotka --- Shaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habinator33 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 So his trade value is of a 1st line center and his contract value is that of a 1st line center but he's really just a 2nd line center(one of the better ones though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Buffalo winds up taking back pretty much the same salary as O'Reilly's signing bonus. Interesting - I thought they'd get one of Sobotka/Berglund, not both. And Buffalo got their 1st/2nd/good prospect (Thompson was a fairly recent 1st rounder). And that's why boys and girls I wanted Bergevin to pass on this trade. Thank god he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Steep Steep Steep, no wonder Bergevin thought the price was too high, it was. Would definitely have put a damper on our attempt to rebuild this thing rapidly. I can't understand it but I actually agree with most of the things MB is doing since draft day, making me feel slightly uncomfortable to be honest, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 As much as I wanted O'Reilly, I think everyone can agree it was a great decision not to trade for him considering the cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 40 minutes ago, illWill said: As much as I wanted O'Reilly, I think everyone can agree it was a great decision not to trade for him considering the cost? I am glad he didn't match the demand for ROR I wanted to have him, but we are better off in keeping our path down the "reset" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Bergevin so far gets an A- from me this off season. no crazy contracts signed no idiotic trade for Orielly Only negative is the chucky for domi trade but I dont think its that bad of a trade as some here make it out to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Dalhabs said: Bergevin so far gets an A- from me this off season. no crazy contracts signed no idiotic trade for Orielly Only negative is the chucky for domi trade but I dont think its that bad of a trade as some here make it out to be. I agree that MB has so far done well. We didn't sign another Alzner contract, we didn't make a stupid trade for a band aid, the draft was good, got some picks for a cap dump. Hope he can flip Patches for something good and move Weber for a kings ransom. If he can do that then we are in good shape moving forward and could compete in 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Wow our standards are low right now. "We didn't make any stupid trades or signings. A!" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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