Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Centres: Danault, Peca, Plekanec Natural RW: Gallagher, Armia, Scherbak Any Position: Shaw, Drouin, Hudon Natural LW: Tatar, Domi, Deslauriers Either wing: Byron, Lehkonen Fringe: De la Rose (LW/C), McCarron (RW/C), Froese (C/RW) Rookies that could crack lineup: Kotkaniemi (C), Suzuki (C/RW) That's 19 forwards for 13 spots. Even if we cut the rookies and Froese there is still too many guys for the spots. Someone is going to sit or play 4th line when they shouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 right now I am thinking.. Drouin - Domi - Byron Tatar - Danault - Gallagher Lehkonen - Peca - Armia Hudon - Plekanec - Scherbak Rielly - Petry Mete - Julssen Alzner - Schlemko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 32 minutes ago, Link67 said: right now I am thinking.. Drouin - Domi - Byron Tatar - Danault - Gallagher Lehkonen - Peca - Armia Hudon - Plekanec - Scherbak Rielly - Petry Mete - Julssen Alzner - Schlemko That first line will give teams fits. Talk about speed to burn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Tatar-Danault-Gallagher Byron-Domi-Drouin Lehkonen(LW/RW)-Kotkaniemi-Armia Hudon-Plekanec-Scherbak Damn you Peca! Why make everyone who thinks Kotkaniemi should be sent back to Finland right. We have too many centers? Reilly-Petry Mete-Alzner Benn-Schlemko Juulsen Price Niemi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx..CK..xXx Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Tatar-Kotkaniemi-Drouin Domi-Danault-Gallagher Hudon-Plekanec-Lehkonen Byron-Peca-Scherbak/Armia If I didn’t know it wouldn’t happen. We do have too many forwards so obviously Kotkaniemi won’t be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 (edited) Why is Armia getting so much love? He hasn't showed top-6 talent and seems like a bottom-6 forward? Tatar-Danault-Gallagher Drouin-Kotka/Domi-Lehkonen Byron-Peca-Scherbak Hudon-Plekanec-Armia Ward (No DeLaRose) Kotkaniemi sent to Findland after a few games Reilly-Petry Alzner-Ouellet Schlemko-Lernout (I'll get criticised for this, but Mete-Juulsen in Laval to start the season) Edited September 24, 2018 by alfredoh2009 explained Kotka's short-term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: Why is Armia getting so much love? He hasn't showed top-6 talent and seems like a bottom-6 forward? Tatar-Danault-Gallagher Drouin-Kotka/Domi-Lehkonen Byron-Peca-Scherbak Hudon-Plekanec-Armia Ward (No DeLaRose) Kotkaniemi sent to Findland after a few games Reilly-Petry Alzner-Ouellet Schlemko-Lernout (I'll get criticised for this, but Mete-Juulsen in Laval to start the season) attitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, hab29RETIRED said: attitude Yeah hab29RETIRED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 13 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: Why is Armia getting so much love? He hasn't showed top-6 talent and seems like a bottom-6 forward? Jets fans have often said every 1/4 games he has a great game, but the other 3 he's just average. So the hope is that the Jets just didn't have room or patience for him and he breaks out the way guys like Weise and Danault have. And with the lack of size in the lineup, Julien would likely play him up in the top six just for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Jets fans have often said every 1/4 games he has a great game, but the other 3 he's just average. So the hope is that the Jets just didn't have room or patience for him and he breaks out the way guys like Weise and Danault have. And with the lack of size in the lineup, Julien would likely play him up in the top six just for that reason. I was called on for using the "size" card when putting Rielly on the tod pair instead of Mete. What makes me hesitate is that Scherbak needs a chance on the top-9, and Lehkonen is not a bottom-liner, which pushes Armia to the bottom where he played for the Jets. Hudon-Pleks-Armia is a good 4th line! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: I was called on for using the "size" card when putting Rielly on the tod pair instead of Mete. What makes me hesitate is that Scherbak needs a chance on the top-9, and Lehkonen is not a bottom-liner, which pushes Armia to the bottom where he played for the Jets. Hudon-Pleks-Armia is a good 4th line! Personally I prefer Reilly - Petry and Mete - Juulsen as the pairs so I agree with you. Not so much on size but more that Reilly is the new shiny "did we just pick up a top four defenceman for nothing?" and we might as well see what he has before he either flames out like Benn did or does show some mustard. As for size, I personally don't care about size. I just know that's the logic as to why he may play top six in the lineup. He's kind of a Lars Eller/Dale Weise hybrid to me. Probably belongs on the third line but they will see what they can get out of him. He definitely plays though, since he's actually a natural righty. With this current team, my ideal lineup on opening night is probably Byron - Peca - Drouin Tatar - Danault - Gallagher Domi - Hudon - Scherbak Lehkonen - Plekanec - Armia Deslauriers, Ward Reilly - Petry Mete - Juulsen Schlemko - Benn Alzner Price Niemi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Personally, I wouldn't draw too many conclusions at all based on preseason play. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Personally I prefer Reilly - Petry and Mete - Juulsen as the pairs so I agree with you. Not so much on size but more that Reilly is the new shiny "did we just pick up a top four defenceman for nothing?" and we might as well see what he has before he either flames out like Benn did or does show some mustard. As for size, I personally don't care about size. I just know that's the logic as to why he may play top six in the lineup. He's kind of a Lars Eller/Dale Weise hybrid to me. Probably belongs on the third line but they will see what they can get out of him. He definitely plays though, since he's actually a natural righty. With this current team, my ideal lineup on opening night is probably Byron - Peca - Drouin Tatar - Danault - Gallagher Domi - Hudon - Scherbak Lehkonen - Plekanec - Armia Deslauriers, Ward Reilly - Petry Mete - Juulsen Schlemko - Benn Alzner Price Niemi That's a fast lineup! Smurfish but fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 21 hours ago, alfredoh2009 said: Why is Armia getting so much love? He hasn't showed top-6 talent and seems like a bottom-6 forward? Julien has been keeping Armia with the Drouin/Domi duo for almost the entire preseason. He seems pretty set on giving those two a crash and banger with hands. Tatar - Danault - Gallagher Drouin - Domi - Armia Byron - Plekanec - Lehkonen Hudon - Peca - Scherbek De La Rose Reilly - Petry Mete - Juulsen Alzner - Schlemko Benn The defence is (and will continue to be for some time) a tire fire, but the forward lines will probably be fun to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 My opening night roster... Tatar Danault Gallagher Drouin Kotkamania Lehkonan Domi Plex Byron Hudon Peca Armia Scherbak DeLaRose Reilly Petry mete juulsen alzner Schlemko Ouellet Price NiemI IR delauriers weber shaw sorry. But Kotkaniemi has earned a spot to start the year on my team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 7 hours ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said: My opening night roster... Tatar Danault Gallagher Drouin Kotkamania Lehkonan Domi Plex Byron Hudon Peca Armia Scherbak DeLaRose Reilly Petry mete juulsen alzner Schlemko Ouellet Price NiemI IR delauriers weber shaw sorry. But Kotkaniemi has earned a spot to start the year on my team... If Peca has a nagging injury to start the season (hamstring) then yes, play Kotkaniemi. Otherwise, send him to Laval until Scherbak is traded. Scherbak has looked lost. It woul dopen a spot for Benn to stick around until we can ship him out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Why would we want to trade a player with so much potential before he’s even played half a season in the NHL...(Scherbak) benn will get us a 5th rounder if lucky... Peca is fine... kotkaniemi is not going to Finland! He is starting in Montreal and if not will grow in Laval and continue on the small ice with Joel Bouchard and company.... he’s been to good to ignore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I'm pretty sure I read on Twitter there is an agreement that Kotkaniemi is going to return to Finland, if he doesn't make the Habs As for Scherbak, he had a solid third last night. He s finally starting to use that big frame to drive the net and protect the puck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 I would be shocked if the Habs let this kid leave Quebec... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 4 hours ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said: I would be shocked if the Habs let this kid leave Quebec... Latendresse excitement was way louder and they still waited until he was 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 4 hours ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said: Why would we want to trade a player with so much potential before he’s even played half a season in the NHL...(Scherbak) benn will get us a 5th rounder if lucky... Peca is fine... kotkaniemi is not going to Finland! He is starting in Montreal and if not will grow in Laval and continue on the small ice with Joel Bouchard and company.... he’s been to good to ignore! because out of Delarose and Scherbak, Scherbak would probably get the CH more. Waiving him is not an option and he has not earned a spot on this roster. I think that as it is, Mete-Juulsen will remain at the NHL level, they have earned it. That means that we would probably carry two extra Ds. Scherby seems to be the odd man out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN THE HEARTS OF MEN Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 ..I don’t believe there is any similarity to latendresse and kotkaniemi outside of them both being 2st round picks to MTL. zero! 1 hour ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Latendresse excitement was way louder and they still waited until he was 19. I don’t think so.. I think a Dman gets traded or waived 58 minutes ago, alfredoh2009 said: because out of Delarose and Scherbak, Scherbak would probably get the CH more. Waiving him is not an option and he has not earned a spot on this roster. I think that as it is, Mete-Juulsen will remain at the NHL level, they have earned it. That means that we would probably carry two extra Ds. Scherby seems to be the odd man out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said: ..I don’t believe there is any similarity to latendresse and kotkaniemi outside of them both being 2st round picks to MTL. zero! Nah you missed my point. The city was going crazy when Latendresse was 18 that he was a French Canadian Todd Bertuzzi. There was a ton of pressure to keep him up by media and fans. Triple what we see with Kotkaniemi. They still sent him down, but kept him up at 19 when they probably should have had him continue in junior. Kotkaniemi has buzz and he could play in the NHL, but it's not like Latendresse, and we made the right decision then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallica Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, IN THE HEARTS OF MEN said: ..I don’t believe there is any similarity to latendresse and kotkaniemi outside of them both being 2st round picks to MTL. zero! Kotkaniemi was 3rd overall latendresse was picked in the 2nd after we trade up to get him. The thing with latendresse was the Montreal media and Montreal fans were dying for a home town boy super star and they thought they had that in latendresse after he had such a good preseason. Thats why there was such hate on management when they wanted to keep him down in the farm system. Players are told you earn a job on the team in preseason. So if Kotkaniemi is out playing ever center on the team in preseason that means he has earned a spot on the team. Keep him up for the 9 games see how he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: Nah you missed my point. The city was going crazy when Latendresse was 18 that he was a French Canadian Todd Bertuzzi. There was a ton of pressure to keep him up by media and fans. Triple what we see with Kotkaniemi. They still sent him down, but kept him up at 19 when they probably should have had him continue in junior. Kotkaniemi has buzz and he could play in the NHL, but it's not like Latendresse, and we made the right decision then. This is beside the point, but I seem to recall them making a mistake with Ribeiro...keeping him up after training camp and burning a year on his contract by keeping him more than the minimum number of games, then sending him down Both Fatendresse and Mikey Ribs were hardly cases of exemplary player development, I might add, even if the latter did manage to go on to have a pretty good career after being given away to Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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