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Meller93 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Hmm, interesting swap of two top 6 AHLers who haven’t quite managed to find a bottom 6 NHL job. Stylistically how how do they differ? I thought they both have nhl level shots and some offensive ability, but am unsure about their defensive games and general hockey IQ. whats the motive behind shipping off newly acquired Rychel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Rychel's the better offensive player while Shinkaruk is the better skater. The Habs seem to be placing more of a premium on speed with some of their depth moves (even going back to adding guys like Verbeek). I wonder now if McCarron who is still unsigned (like Rychel/Shinkaruk) will be on the move in a similar type of swap as well. http://www.habsworld.net/2018/08/habs-acquire-hunter-shinkaruk/ From the Calgary side: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 So does Bergevin have a curse on him that he HAS to make a trade at least once every 4 months or else he loses his fashion sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Between this guy and Marcel Chaput, we're doing a good job of vacuuming up Canucks rejects. Shinkaruk was traded by VAN for Markus Granlund, a rare trade the Canucks clearly won (although Granlund is no great shakes either). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I always liked Shinkaruk as a prospect, though he hasn't panned out. Interested to see what happens here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Shinkaruk has signed a one-year, two-way deal. He'll get the league minimum of $650,000 in the NHL, $80,000 in Laval, and the contract has a guaranteed payment of $105,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Man I was sure I was gonna open this up and it would say he was traded for McCarron. They were drafted beside each other. The Stockton Heat are not a good development team for anyone but neither was Laval with Lefebvre so hopefully he develops with better coaches. Either way I'm glad to get rid of Rychel. I've known that spoiled brat since Windsor. His dad almost tanked his entire organization to bring him to the Spitfires and when he finally got him, everyone knew that there was an unwritten rule to always pass the puck to Kerby. The joke among the scorekeepers was, "Are you sure that wasn't a goal by Rychel?" anytime Windsor scored. Whatever the case is, I hope we trade Hunter instead of him just leaving. We got a good train going: - Sven Andrighetto for Andreas Martinsen - Martinsen for Kyle Baun - Baun in the Plekanec deal for Rychel - Rychel for Shinkaruk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 There goes my hope for a Deslaurier-McCarron-Rychel line It will be interesting to see what JB does in Laval: how he puts the prospects in a context to develop and who he's Go-to guys will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 1:41 PM, dlbalr said: Rychel's the better offensive player while Shinkaruk is the better skater. The Habs seem to be placing more of a premium on speed with some of their depth moves (even going back to adding guys like Verbeek). I wonder now if McCarron who is still unsigned (like Rychel/Shinkaruk) will be on the move in a similar type of swap as well. http://www.habsworld.net/2018/08/habs-acquire-hunter-shinkaruk/ From the Calgary side: Bergevin has definitely put a premium on speed in his latest moves. Going back to the deadline. Jerabek flipped for a pick that was flipped for Reilly Domi for Chuck Acquiring Armia Signing Peca This Move The problem is that the organizational philosophy seems to change yearly. Last year it was pick up Alzner, add Schlemko and Benn (deadline previous year). Get the veteran defenceman. Defence first. The year before it was character and grit.... Subban for Weber, add Shaw. The year we lost to the Sens it was toughness and size.... add Parros, Douglas Murray, draft McCarron, Crisp. He needs to pick a philosophy and stick with it. What is the team's identity and what does he want it to be. It seems to change on an annual basis. Now he wants speed. Last year he didn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, Commandant said: Bergevin has definitely put a premium on speed in his latest moves. Going back to the deadline. Jerabek flipped for a pick that was flipped for Reilly Domi for Chuck Acquiring Armia Signing Peca This Move The problem is that the organizational philosophy seems to change yearly. Last year it was pick up Alzner, add Schlemko and Benn (deadline previous year). Get the veteran defenceman. Defence first. The year before it was character and grit.... Subban for Weber, add Shaw. The year we lost to the Sens it was toughness and size.... add Parros, Douglas Murray, draft McCarron, Crisp. He needs to pick a philosophy and stick with it. What is the team's identity and what does he want it to be. It seems to change on an annual basis. Now he wants speed. Last year he didn't. Lets just hope he sticks with speed because that is alot better than the previous years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Commandant said: Bergevin has definitely put a premium on speed in his latest moves. Going back to the deadline. Jerabek flipped for a pick that was flipped for Reilly Domi for Chuck Acquiring Armia Signing Peca This Move The problem is that the organizational philosophy seems to change yearly. Last year it was pick up Alzner, add Schlemko and Benn (deadline previous year). Get the veteran defenceman. Defence first. The year before it was character and grit.... Subban for Weber, add Shaw. The year we lost to the Sens it was toughness and size.... add Parros, Douglas Murray, draft McCarron, Crisp. He needs to pick a philosophy and stick with it. What is the team's identity and what does he want it to be. It seems to change on an annual basis. Now he wants speed. Last year he didn't. You are so spot-on, it's crazy. This is a case study in reactive rather than proactive management. Good GMs either identify which way the wind is blowing and develop a team accordingly, or else they simply identify the organizational philosophy that makes the most sense given the assets they have in hand and damn the torpedoes (as Bob Gainey did with Team Smurf in 2010). Being a bad GM, Bergevin has instead lurched from model to model with no coherent plan, and has been 3-4 years behind everybody else in identifying speed and skill as the primary desiderata in the contemporary NHL. It's appalling, massive ineptitude, no two ways about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, Commandant said: He needs to pick a philosophy and stick with it. He needs to pick an exit date and pack for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: He needs to pick an exit date and pack for it. This rebuild would be somewhat exciting, if Bergevin wasn't a part of it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine of Loving Grace Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Habopotamus said: This rebuild would be somewhat exciting, if Bergevin wasn't a part of it It's like getting a new job but it doesn't start for another year so you gotta keep working the job you hate until it begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 17 hours ago, Machine of Loving Grace said: It's like getting a new job but it doesn't start for another year so you gotta keep working the job you hate until it begins. Well Hopefully that new job comes in like 3 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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