Popular Post illWill Posted October 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2018 I figured if I didn't include the current year in the title it would set off a frenzy of posts from people scorned over the last few years. The focus of this thread is the moves made by Bergevin in the current year and how they have set up this team to it's surprising-to-most good start. The 18-19 Habs edition is noticeably different than it's predecessor, mainly by their style, but also by their.....attitude. There's that catch word everybody loves, yet it is apparent. Guys are competing every single shift, there is such an internal competition that it is pushing everyone to their max. Scratching free agent signing Plekanec and big contract Alzner to start the season was a Julien decision, and it wasn't held back by any fictitious Bergevin ego. This team now has an identity, and that is speed and attitude. I recall against Detroit when Drouin was hurt with a shot block and finally got to his feet, only to get shoved by Bertuzzi. Well here come like 3 Habs to his defense looking to fight him, haven't seen that in a long time. It seems like there is alot of cohesion on this team and it is fun to watch. Now let's look at the moves made in this calendar year in no particular order: *Hires highly successful Joel Bouchard out of the Q to coach Laval *Hires World Junior Championship coach Dominique Doucharme as an assistant coach *Trades life long Hab Plekanec to the rival Leafs for a pick and prospects, only to get him back for free via UFA *Trades a disgruntled Galchenyuk who never found a role with the team after 6 (!) seasons, for Max "100 times better than his Dad" Domi *Does not give in to Buffalo's demands in a trade for Ryan O'Rielly *Acquires Joel Armia for money that isn't his *Trades a 5th (!) round pick to Minnesota for Mike "looks like a top 4 D to me" Rielly *Signs Xavier Ouellet for maybe the minimum (I'm not looking it up) *Drafts Jasperi Kotkaniemi who looks like a stud so far, despite the majority of fans wanting someone else *Speaking of drafting centers, he drafts 7 of them (looked that one up) *Trades captain Max Pacioretty for Thomas Tatar, who in a small sample size looks to win the trade by himself and is under team control for longer for a lower overall cap hit, PLUS a 13th overall center prospect and a 2nd rounder (!) Do I even have to mention the return that LWs Jeff Skinner and Mike Hoffman got? *Names Shea Weber the 30th captain of the Montreal Canadiens despite him being out due to injury. It's not going to player vote this time guys Say whatever you want about the past, but it is hard to argue against anything that Marc Bergevin has done in 2018 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 As a fellow connoisseur of memes/gifs, I appreciate the legendary Randy Jackson reference, as I use it in my daily life. But your post does not articulate your opinion as to why it is in fact a no from you, dawg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 This post takes real sack. I approve. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs owned the 70's Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 His recent moves have looked brilliant so only the most ardent haters won't give Bergevin credit (you know who you are). Given that, he has had some questionable decisions in the past but who hasn't. I like what I'm seeing lately and for now he's doing a good job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I quess I am still on the fence about this Bergevin guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott462 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Cheers for the positivety Will. I dig it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Let’s wait a few more games before anointing all of these moves as unqualified successes. People scoff at small sample sizes for a reason: they tend to produce anomalies or simply misleading results. If the Canadiens keep playing with such vim and vigour— not necessarily winning at this pace- for most of the season, I will be the first to admit that Bergevin is not as much of a moron as I thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalhabs Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Pacs gets things going and ends up with 30+ goals, Tatar cools off a bit and suddenly that trade is hanging on Suzuki. Same with chucky for domi. Galchenyuk hasnt played a game yet. We dont know anything how it will end up yet but so far looks good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 6 games in bro.... come on now. This should be a thread that is started 30-40 games in at minimum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I want to wait to the 10th game to see for myself if we have started to climb out of the bottom of the abyss. Marc Bergevin needs to do more than he did last summer to revert some of his mistakes of the last season, but I agree that he has done very well lately. I like how he has rebuilt the depth in Laval and how much wiggle room he has going into the trade deadline and draft next year to swing a deal for more picks and prospects. Good thread illWill !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 6 hours ago, Dalhabs said: Pacs gets things going and ends up with 30+ goals, Tatar cools off a bit and suddenly that trade is hanging on Suzuki. Max likely will get 30 or more, but kinda irrelevant when many HabFans hated him as captain and wanted he traded every 30+ goal season he had to begin with (streaky and a floater was the cry). And all think Habs got a good return for #67 dont they? I hope Max does well in Vegas. 6 hours ago, Dalhabs said: Same with chucky for domi. Galchenyuk hasnt played a game yet. We know what kind of player Galchenyuk is, frustrating underachiever. He also had baggage off the ice that likely was getting old. In Domi, we get a younger skilled player with more grit and already seems like he is fitting in very well and is a smart player. Also hope Galchenyuk does do well in the desert, i have nothing against the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Baggage off the ice? You mean the time he was the victim of an assault by his girlfriend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Commandant said: Baggage off the ice? You mean the time he was the victim of an assault by his girlfriend? Had forgot about that and is mostly irrelevant now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 This thread's intentions are all about stirring the pot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 Stirring the pot or posting an opposing opinion? We all know how much most people hate Bergevin, but the intent is to focus on what he has done lately. I had to read the thousands of posts dumping on Bergevin, but now there is one thread highlighting what I think are good moves, and suddenly that's a problem? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Habopotamus said: This thread's intentions are all about stirring the pot. And the "Fire Bergevin" thread is different somehow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 50 minutes ago, illWill said: Stirring the pot or posting an opposing opinion? We all know how much most people hate Bergevin, but the intent is to focus on what he has done lately. I had to read the thousands of posts dumping on Bergevin, but now there is one thread highlighting what I think are good moves, and suddenly that's a problem? I can respect your optimism, but to call this guy Einstein after 6 games, it's a little early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illWill Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 I'm the first to admit that 6 games doesn't mean a whole lot. But regardless of how the team started we should take note of these things that most have wanted him to do for years: *Fire Lefebvre, check *Address the center position, check *Get younger and faster, check Also keep in mind that their best defenseman has yet to step on the ice and Price hasn't exactly been lights out so far. Not to mention this team is operating with plenty of extra cap space and could potentially be better with the addition of a player or two. To me it is more important how this team is winning games, and not just that they are. I also think Julien deserves a lot of credit, but maybe I'll save that for a different appreciation thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link67 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Just an fyi to those trying to throw the piano down from the top window on this thing with the games played card, how many games played has no bearing, what so ever, on whether or not you think the moves and decisions listed in the OP are good moves or not. That is the point he is making, and even I, who has pretty much disliked everything he has done since trade deadline Ott and King, can admit this whole offseason has looked like a pleasantly surprising basket of competency. I truly believed if we kept him at the helm he would continue to find new ways to ruin things for us, but he proved other wise,. Despite the obvious fact that the mess he had to clean up was his own doing, his 2018 offseason has largely been a success, if you evaluate it as its own separate entity from the rest of his body of work. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Not sure who is downvoting illWill on this. It's a well-written, positive post on a timely topic, and it's a worthy discussion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard09 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 still can't forget Subban, Sergachev, Shaw, Alzner, how he treated Markov, Subban, Patches, and all the other dumb moves he has made. 6 games in does not erase all the stupid movies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Suzuki 2g 2a for 15pts in 9gms 4th game with 3+pts. http://attackhockey.com/article/the-bears-and-the-bees-attack-with-a-6-3-stinger-to-sarnia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Tip of hat to Timmins, maybe this kid will be a smart pick? https://en.khl.ru/news/2018/10/15/412268.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, DON said: Tip of hat to Timmins, maybe this kid will be a smart pick? https://en.khl.ru/news/2018/10/15/412268.html 1 hour ago, DON said: Suzuki 2g 2a for 15pts in 9gms 4th game with 3+pts. http://attackhockey.com/article/the-bears-and-the-bees-attack-with-a-6-3-stinger-to-sarnia *looks at thread title* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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