huzer Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 That seems absolutely absurd to me. https://www.nhl.com/news/canadiens-paul-byron-suspended-three-games-for-charging/c-303957216 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 games for a guy who never plays with malicious intent. Way overboard. I thought a phone hearing was more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 I was honestly surprised when I heard this morning that there was even a hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habopotamus Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Same here. There's a difference from a guy finishing his hit and targeting his hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 Judging from Byron's statement on Twitter, he won't be appealing. “I accept and respect the decision made by the department of player safety,” Byron wrote. “I would like to make it clear I had no intention of causing injury or finishing my check through MacKenzie Weegar’s head. I think my history and the way I conduct myself on the ice show a lack of intent to injure other players. Despite a lack of intention, I have to accept responsibility for my hit and realize the result of the hit was to the head and caused injury. I would like to sincerely apologize for my hit and wish MacKenzie all the best and hope he is okay. I’ve learnt a lesson through this and will make sure any future hits result in a clean and legal fashion.” pic.twitter.com/hw6RXMvsDC — Paul Byron (@jpbyron89) January 16, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Consistency for the ruling would be nice. Byron has no history of dirty hits and gets 3 games and marchand gets suspended 3 times a year and gets 3 games also! He slowed down on impact holding back! A phone hearing with a 1 game suspension, was more in order .. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreegking Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Byron is correct in his apology. The hut was illegal. Players need to be more careful. It’s thst simple. He deserves the punishment. I’m glad the league continues to hold players accountable. No debate on this once the video clearly dnd accurately explains what happened and what was wrong. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, huzer said: That seems absolutely absurd to me. https://www.nhl.com/news/canadiens-paul-byron-suspended-three-games-for-charging/c-303957216 About right (maybe bit too long and 2 games likely better call), dirty hits like this should be out of game. Edited January 17, 2019 by DON 2nd thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Noted goon Paul Byron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, DON said: About right (maybe bit too long and 2 games likely better call), dirty hits like this should be out of game. For me, 1 game would warrant a raised eyebrow, two a complaint, three just seems crazy. It’s the longest suspension for a regular season game infraction this season (there are a couple of other three gamers, I think.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Should he be suspended? Yes. Is the NHL disciplinary policy a completely random, arbitrary lottery? Yes. It drives me crazy, but the dinosaurs running the league are simply incompetent to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 hours ago, huzer said: Judging from Byron's statement on Twitter, he won't be appealing. “I accept and respect the decision made by the department of player safety,” Byron wrote. “I would like to make it clear I had no intention of causing injury or finishing my check through MacKenzie Weegar’s head. I think my history and the way I conduct myself on the ice show a lack of intent to injure other players. Despite a lack of intention, I have to accept responsibility for my hit and realize the result of the hit was to the head and caused injury. I would like to sincerely apologize for my hit and wish MacKenzie all the best and hope he is okay. I’ve learnt a lesson through this and will make sure any future hits result in a clean and legal fashion.” pic.twitter.com/hw6RXMvsDC — Paul Byron (@jpbyron89) January 16, 2019 There is no appeal for suspensions of less than 5 games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Habopotamus said: Same here. There's a difference from a guy finishing his hit and targeting his hit. He left his feet and caught weegar in the head. I think 1 or 2 games was in order. 3 seems a bit much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard09 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 NHL suspensions are not based on the hit, its based on the base team the player is on. If he played for Boston it would have been 1 game, if he played for Toronto or NYR it would be a fine. The NHL suspensions are random, and completed by morons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I am still kinda favouring (i know is fantasy and never ever happen but); if called for an illegal hit and injury results, you are gone as long as injured player is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Commandant said: There is no appeal for suspensions of less than 5 games. Thanks, I was unaware of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Pretty confident that the suspension would have been 2 games if he'd have received a game misconduct on the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Richard09 said: NHL suspensions are not based on the hit, its based on the base team the player is on. If he played for Boston it would have been 1 game, if he played for Toronto or NYR it would be a fine. The NHL suspensions are random, and completed by morons. It sounds paranoid, but I honestly believe this to be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: It sounds paranoid. Fixed that for ya. And curious, why do you think this? If Marchand, Miller or Chara had of had same kind of hit on Weber and he was now out with concussion...HabFandome would be screaming bloody murder! Do you disagree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, DON said: Fixed that for ya. And curious, why do you think this? If Marchand, Miller or Chara had of had same kind of hit on Weber and he was now out with concussion...HabFandome would be screaming bloody murder! Do you disagree? I don't disagree. I support this suspension. But we saw Chara deliberately drive a young man's face into a steel barrier, coming within a inch of permanently paralyzing him, and he got one game. One game. I want tough suspensions for dangerous hits, period. But at issue is not whether Byron deserved a suspension, but whether the NHL can be trusted to apply even a mildly consistent standard of discipline. Which it can't. And I do suspect that if Byron were a Bruin, Leaf, or Ranger, as Richard09 said, this wouldn't be a 3-game suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzer Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 Ya know what, I thought that the Agostino hit on Eric Fehr was worse than Byron's hit. As others have said, there's no consistency to suspensions. If I could watch a game, see a hit like Byron's and without a doubt say "Yep, that'll get 3 games" each and every time regardless of players involved and team, then I'd be fine with the suspension. The problem is, you can't say that. Even crazier, say someone gets pummeled during a fight, gets a concussion. The NHL levies suspension based on injuries, so why is there no supplemental discipline there? Clearly in a fight, there's even INTENT to injure. I guess because both guys were willing to get penalties so they accept the risk of injury, I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I don't disagree. I support this suspension. But we saw Chara deliberately drive a young man's face into a steel barrier, coming within a inch of permanently paralyzing him, and he got one game. One game. I want tough suspensions for dangerous hits, period. But at issue is not whether Byron deserved a suspension, but whether the NHL can be trusted to apply even a mildly consistent standard of discipline. Which it can't. And I do suspect that if Byron were a Bruin, Leaf, or Ranger, as Richard09 said, this wouldn't be a 3-game suspension. He got 0 games, and the NHL Disciplinarian at the time was the father of the Bruins player. That said, there have been major changes in the Dept of player safety since that hit... and while there are still some problems with consistency and overall length of suspensions, what I'm not seeing is favourtism to certain teams. Marchand has gotten numerous suspensions. There have been leafs suspended when necessary, and the Rangers havent gotten off easy in that time either. The system is not perfect but it seems to be more incompetence than favoring certain teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I don't disagree. I support this suspension. But we saw Chara deliberately drive a young man's face into a steel barrier, coming within a inch of permanently paralyzing him, and he got one game. One game. I want tough suspensions for dangerous hits, period. But at issue is not whether Byron deserved a suspension, but whether the NHL can be trusted to apply even a mildly consistent standard of discipline. Which it can't. And I do suspect that if Byron were a Bruin, Leaf, or Ranger, as Richard09 said, this wouldn't be a 3-game suspension. I shouldnt say what I think of Chara hit, see different than you, don't see attempted murder and still have a lot of respect for Chara, no need to go off on that, I know you strongly disagree. . I cant say whether suspensions all seem fair, but does seems tough (impossible, given fans of hitee or hitter will 99% of time see it differently) for them to make everyone happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, DON said: I shouldnt say what I think of Chara hit, see different than you, don't see attempted murder and still have a lot of respect for Chara, no need to go off on that, I know you strongly disagree. . I cant say whether suspensions all seem fair, but does seems tough (impossible, given fans of hitee or hitter will 99% of time see it differently) for them to make everyone happy. Well, FWIW I'd be happy if they erred on the side of player safety and deterrence. Tough suspensions should therefore be the default position - and without respect to whether you are viewed as a Good Guy who Plays the Right Way (which is an arbitrary measure that brings huge risks of favouritism in the inbred old-boys' world of NHL hockey). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.