tomh009 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Pens and Tampa Bay both ... I won't mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 5 hours ago, BCHabnut said: Kadri is bordering Matt Cooke country. That was a brutal cross check. He gets the red mist and goes totally out of control. Given his history of suspensions, I expect a minimum of five games for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Six minutes to go in the third for St Louis-Winnipeg. The Jets have only two shots on net in the third -- and two goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazy26 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 hours ago, zumpano21 said: Something wrong in TB. Down 2-0 in the series. 3 shots on goal in the first period of game 3. So.... maybe they should have rested their stars during the final week??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Pacioretty 2g 4a in 3 gms. Stone 6g, his old teammate Karlsson has been on for all 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 14 hours ago, zumpano21 said: Something wrong in TB. Down 2-0 in the series. 3 shots on goal in the first period of game 3. Absolutely incredible. If you're the Tampa GM, what do you do? You have one of the greatest regular season teams ever assembled and it goes out easily in Round One. Do you keep the group together and keep the faith? Do you contemplate major surgery? Or do you look to make 1-2 key moves that transform the team into a 'playoff' oriented group? The easiest thing to do would be a coaching change. But the supposedly brilliant Cooper just re-upped. Yowza. As for Pittsburgh, I smelled something rotten in the state of Crosby when they traded the solid Tanner Pearson for human pylon Erik Gurdbranson. It's true that the refs flush their whistles down the crapper once the playoffs begin, but you still need to be able to skate FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 13 hours ago, lazy26 said: So.... maybe they should have rested their stars during the final week??? Common sense dictated that should have been the way to go. Also, the 'padding your stats in meaningless games angers the hockey gods' factor comes into play. Glad they are being humiliated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Maybe good Ontario boy Stamkos isn't a real leader and gutless Russian Kucherov doesn't play enough defense. They should swap them out with Shaw and Lekhonen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 48 minutes ago, Neech said: Maybe good Ontario boy Stamkos isn't a real leader and gutless Russian Kucherov doesn't play enough defense. They should swap them out with Shaw and Lekhonen. I think Drouin and Alzner would be a better fit for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 5 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Absolutely incredible. If you're the Tampa GM, what do you do? You have one of the greatest regular season teams ever assembled and it goes out easily in Round One. Do you keep the group together and keep the faith? Do you contemplate major surgery? Or do you look to make 1-2 key moves that transform the team into a 'playoff' oriented group? The easiest thing to do would be a coaching change. But the supposedly brilliant Cooper just re-upped. Yowza. As for Pittsburgh, I smelled something rotten in the state of Crosby when they traded the solid Tanner Pearson for human pylon Erik Gurdbranson. It's true that the refs flush their whistles down the crapper once the playoffs begin, but you still need to be able to skate FFS. In tampa, you keep the team together and don't overreact to what happens in a small sample size where Hedman was playing hurt (and finally sat) and you were also missing Stralman. You move out Ryan Callahan to create cap space (and if Bergevin can't get the LHD that he wants, this should be an avenue he explores ala the Armia trade to get a good young forward propsect out of Tampa).... and then Tampa should use the space to replace Stralman on their defence and go after it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meller93 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Commandant said: In tampa, you keep the team together and don't overreact to what happens in a small sample size where Hedman was playing hurt (and finally sat) and you were also missing Stralman. You move out Ryan Callahan to create cap space (and if Bergevin can't get the LHD that he wants, this should be an avenue he explores ala the Armia trade to get a good young forward propsect out of Tampa).... and then Tampa should use the space to replace Stralman on their defence and go after it again. I think taking Callahan for a year is an excellent idea. What does it take to get Cal Foote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 6 hours ago, sbhatt said: Common sense dictated that should have been the way to go. Also, the 'padding your stats in meaningless games angers the hockey gods' factor comes into play. Glad they are being humiliated. They did wind up sitting some guys in the end. Vasilevskiy sat 2 of the last 3 (including the Montreal game) while Point sat the last game as well. (Plus Hedman and Stralman who were hurt which limited their ability to rest someone like McDonagh.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Commandant said: In tampa, you keep the team together and don't overreact to what happens in a small sample size where Hedman was playing hurt (and finally sat) and you were also missing Stralman. You move out Ryan Callahan to create cap space (and if Bergevin can't get the LHD that he wants, this should be an avenue he explores ala the Armia trade to get a good young forward propsect out of Tampa).... and then Tampa should use the space to replace Stralman on their defence and go after it again. This is good, calm advice. There may be an odd analogy here with another team Yzerman was associated with - i.e., all those Detroit teams that took forever to get over the hump. Detroit stayed faithful to their core and eventually made it. San Jose is the obverse case. I don't think the loss of Hedman and Strahlman is really an excuse for crapping out like they have. Championship-calibre teams can ride out injuries, or at least be highly competitive with them. There's a deeper issue there of some kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Dumb move by teenager Svechnikov fighting Ovi, ends up getting KO'd. I hope Kotka learned from what happened to Byron and declines to 'answer the bell', regardless of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 Pulling the goalie vs Habs in game 80 or 81 seemed a bit much and is a given, that there will be vast majority of HabFans cheering on Columbus tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Carolina outshot Washington 17-1 (!) in the second, and outscored them 2-0. The Caps are not looking good in this game, for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 hour ago, DON said: Pulling the goalie vs Habs in game 80 or 81 seemed a bit much and is a given, that there will be vast majority of HabFans cheering on Columbus tomorrow. That didn't bother me in the slightest - in fact, I prefer to see the Habs being treated as serious competitors rather than charity cases - but I get that for some reason, some people found it some sort of mortal offence against human decency that the other team tried its best to win a hockey game against us. It also seems to me that since Columbus was the team that did more than any to knock us out, it's not self-evident that we should be cheering for them. But in truth this series to me is mostly interesting from an analytical rather than emotional point of view, in that it's fascinating to see as dominant a team as TB suddenly roll over and die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 The Canes just wiped the floor with the Caps. Outshot them 30-6 (and a few of those 6 from the blueline in desperation) and outscored them 4-0 in the last two periods. If that doesn't give them the momentum for game 4, nothing will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: But in truth this series to me is mostly interesting from an analytical rather than emotional point of view, in that it's fascinating to see as dominant a team as TB suddenly roll over and die. I'll second that. It's fascinating ... but in the end, I don't really care all THAT much about what the outcome is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 4 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: This is good, calm advice. There may be an odd analogy here with another team Yzerman was associated with - i.e., all those Detroit teams that took forever to get over the hump. Detroit stayed faithful to their core and eventually made it. San Jose is the obverse case. I don't think the loss of Hedman and Strahlman is really an excuse for crapping out like they have. Championship-calibre teams can ride out injuries, or at least be highly competitive with them. There's a deeper issue there of some kind. I don't know that there is a deeper issue. Even the best teams can have a three game slump. I'd be very hesitant to say its anything more than that at this point. Especially when goaltending has been a huge factor in this series. The two-time Vezina winner has outplayed Vasilevskiy (who likely gets his first Vezina this year). Columbus with all their trade deadline moves is also better than a typical 8 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zumpano21 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 On 4/14/2019 at 7:58 PM, lazy26 said: So.... maybe they should have rested their stars during the final week??? Is it that simple? I assume CBJ didn't rest anyone. I think it has more to do with CBJ playing playoff hockey since early Feb. TB hasn't had any pressure since Nov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Yea, not playing meaningful games for amonth like Calgary seems to have slowed them down. Columbus actually has a very loaded roster, especially after the trade deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes of play left for the Canes Lightning this spring, 30 minutes for the Pens. Each one is down by a goal. Edited April 17, 2019 by tomh009 Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, tomh009 said: 20 minutes of play left for the Canes this spring, 30 minutes for the Pens. Each one is down by a goal. Lightning not canes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 6-3 Columbus...awesome! 2-1 Isles leading in 3rd also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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