Commandant Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, Habber31 said: Montreal now has cap tied up on a player that isnt even on their roster. Way too low of an offer too. They could have added an extra 2 million in bonuses...Pointless offer Montreal still has 12 million to spend if they want to, by going over the cap by 8.1 million in off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, PMAC said: A team can go over the cap in summer. They can still add Gardiner if that’s the move they want yo make Yes. But is MB going to take that risk? He may have exhausted his risky-move quotient with the Aho offer sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 21 minutes ago, Habber31 said: Montreal now has cap tied up on a player that isnt even on their roster. Way too low of an offer too. They could have added an extra 2 million in bonuses...Pointless offer Think about why they chose this number, they gave up one less 1st round draft pick is what I'm hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Scott462 said: Hearing Montreal has just offer sheeted Aho. the bonus structure is where its at by the looks of it, 21mil pay out in bonus in 1st 12months, WOW!!!! BallZY!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott462 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, ehjay said: the bonus structure is where its at by the looks of it, 21mil pay out in bonus in 1st 12months, WOW!!!! BallZY!!!!! : Indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 21 million is basically 1 years worth of Hurricanes ticket sales. Dundon also has the AAF bill and is being sued right now. There is no telling how liquid the guy is . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehjay Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, Scott462 said: Indeed! 15 minutes ago, Commandant said: 21 million is basically 1 years worth of Hurricanes ticket sales. Dundon also has the AAF bill and is being sued right now. There is no telling how liquid the guy is . i would upvote both ur comments but ima out for the day lollll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Yes. But is MB going to take that risk? He may have exhausted his risky-move quotient with the Aho offer sheet. Bergevin 2.0 seems to be much less risk-averse than Bergevin 1.0. I remain cautiously optimistic -- and happy that they at least took a run at Aho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 41 minutes ago, Commandant said: 21 million is basically 1 years worth of Hurricanes ticket sales. Dundon also has the AAF bill and is being sued right now. There is no telling how liquid the guy is . Yeah, the Habs have basically thrown the cat among the pigeons when it comes to Canes ownership: are you serious or aren’t you? Seven days to tell the tale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: Yeah, the Habs have basically thrown the cat among the pigeons when it comes to Canes ownership: are you serious or aren’t you? Seven days to tell the tale. I think they will match, but even then i'm not upset, I care more about MB making an effort than the result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, bar said: I think they will match, but even then i'm not upset, I care more about MB making an effort than the result. I celebrate the fact that he made a bold, outside the box play. But if, when all is said and done and summer is over and the team no better than last year’s, then he still blew it in my books. After eight years of MB futility and 25 years of non-contention, I am more than a little ‘results oriented.’ I’ve been playing the ‘just wait 2-3 years’ game for a quarter century; and I’m not buying it any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I celebrate the fact that he made a bold, outside the box play. But if, when all is said and done and summer is over and the team no better than last year’s, then he still blew it in my books. After eight years of MB futility and 25 years of non-contention, I am more than a little ‘results oriented.’ Let's see what happens. I don't think we're in play for Lee any more, but Gardiner is still out there. Or we trade (Gostisbehere?) or take a run at another RFA (Honka?) now that we're officially in the offer sheet business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bar Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: I celebrate the fact that he made a bold, outside the box play. But if, when all is said and done and summer is over and the team no better than last year’s, then he still blew it in my books. After eight years of MB futility and 25 years of non-contention, I am more than a little ‘results oriented.’ I’ve been playing the ‘just wait 2-3 years’ game for a quarter century; and I’m not buying it any more. My expectations were so low for this offseason that the offer sheet has thrown me out of wack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 Since I don't have an offseason Laval thread up yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, dlbalr said: Uh... confirmed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 15 minutes ago, dlbalr said: 7 years, $7M AAV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 hours ago, dlbalr said: Wheww, just glad he has moved on opening up spot for youth; but, hope does well in BC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, dlbalr said: 7 years, $7M AAV. Aho's $8.4M AAV looks very good in comparison, although we would also need to give up the draft picks. And Carolina can match, natch ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Interesting that Jake Gardiner hasn't signed anywhere yet. Obviously he wasn't high on the priority list for most teams. I am guessing his market value has come down if the Habs are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 They sould be pursuing Gardiner, he fills a need. Nothing too crazy on the contract however. Surprised he hasn't signed already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 1, 2019 Author Share Posted July 1, 2019 The goalie carousel has come to an end: Varlamov to the Islanders on a four-year deal. Mrazek re-signs in Carolina (I wonder if that's a backloaded contract). Lehner to Chicago. That one I didn't see coming. Brett Lernout has signed a one-year deal with Vegas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habber31 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: As the entire TSN panel has said, the money needed to be 10.5 million. Bergevin took it to the line, but not far enough. It was a soft attack Now there is no plan B, unless you give up part of the core, to get a player in a trade. Edited July 1, 2019 by Habber31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, Habber31 said: As the entire TSN panel has said, the money needed to be 10.5 million. Bergevin took it to the line, but not far enough. It was a soft attack Now there is no plan B, unless you give up part of the core, to get a player in a trade. This is sort of what I mean by ‘risk averse.’ Even when he makes a big play, he hedges. I noticed in his presser, he kept talking about what he was ‘comfortable’ with, and that he was ‘comfortable’ with this deal. My guess is that to swing something like this, you need to be *uncomfortable.* Because that’s when you’re really out there playing for high stakes. Bergy’s favourite position seems to be a Gallic shrug: hey, I tried, the price was too high, this isn’t PlayStation, yada yada yada. And behind all that, I suspect, is an owner who accepts endless excuses so long as the dollars keep rolling in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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