DON Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Holy moly, $750,000 fine seems extreme, surprised union agreed to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 While the Habs may have an outside chance, the Pens are a battle-hardened group with unbelievable power at C. Of course the smart money is on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, DON said: Holy moly, $750,000 fine seems extreme, surprised union agreed to that. Me too ... that might even be more than some players make this season ... it almost sounds more like a sarcastic response to another tweet/question ... especially because of the jail part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, The Chicoutimi Cucumber said: While the Habs may have an outside chance, the Pens are a battle-hardened group with unbelievable power at C. Of course the smart money is on them. Still was 1-1-1 head to head last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 A healthy CH can give the Pens some scares and even surprise them if the CH gets the lucky bounces On paper, PIT should win but I can’t wait to see how the CH performs on the ice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, GHT120 said: Me too ... that might even be more than some players make this season ... it almost sounds more like a sarcastic response to another tweet/question ... especially because of the jail part. That is what the government is putting in place for MLB, in order to waive the 14 day quarantine rule for players coming from the US. In order to waive that rule and come to Toronto and play games, they need to stay in the Hotel Bubble, or else they would face 14 day quarantines every time they came back from a road trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, alfredoh2009 said: A healthy CH can give the Pens some scares and even surprise them if the CH gets the lucky bounces On paper, PIT should win but I can’t wait to see how the CH performs on the ice And Habs kicked ass at start of last season, so think not hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 56 minutes ago, Commandant said: That is what the government is putting in place for MLB, in order to waive the 14 day quarantine rule for players coming from the US. In order to waive that rule and come to Toronto and play games, they need to stay in the Hotel Bubble, or else they would face 14 day quarantines every time they came back from a road trip. That's right. $750K is the maximum fine for violating the Quarantine Act. No union approval needed. And the same will surely apply to the NHL hubs as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: That's right. $750K is the maximum fine for violating the Quarantine Act. No union approval needed. And the same will surely apply to the NHL hubs as well. I don’t think it will apply in the NHL after the initial 14 days, after arriving at the hub, since they would have had the group quarantine. It’s not like baseball, where there will be continuous travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 The schedule for the PIT series (time/TV TBD): August 1 August 3 August 5 August 7 (if necessary) August 8 (if necessary) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 As I'm reading through the MOU to see what some of the contract rules and whatnot are (because what better way could one spend a Friday night?), I find myself amused that there is actually a section in there where players can now receive two routine dental checkup visits per year instead one (section 17 on page 14). Yes, among reshaping the entire financial picture of the NHL in the middle of a pandemic, players can now get their teeth cleaned every six months instead of 12. Quote Effective immediately, CBA §23.7(a) amended to reflect the Plan benefits as described in the current Plan description, including all Summaries of Material Modifications (“SMM”) and to add the following benefits: • Dental Claims in Canada to be covered up to the current Specialist Fee Guide (previously covered up to General Practitioners Fee Guide).• Increase the number of permissible Dental Exams from one to two routine exams per plan year. CBA § 23.7(b) amended to reflect that coverage provided to Canadian residents includes coverage for eligible products and services that are provided in private clinics in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, dlbalr said: The schedule for the PIT series (time/TV TBD): August 1 August 3 August 5 August 7 (if necessary) August 8 (if necessary) Gotta admit I am hoping the "not the playoffs" argument wins and RDS gets this series ... greatly prefer their TV crew to that from TVA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Well as it is official that 2019-20 sort of resumes with a special play-in ... believe I read the players now have three days to advise teams if the don't want to play ... wonder if any, let along many, will do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 poached im age from Craig Custance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Sounds like outlook is bad for teams near the cap; Bit on it from Burnside, The Athletic: "With a flat cap for the foreseeable future, players’ earning potential is going to be blunted. It means that teams that have been spending to the cap and have locked up assets long term are going to face difficult decisions on key players. As one salary cap expert noted, “Whoever has salary cap space is going to rule the realm.” According to the tremendous hockey resource CapFriendly.com, 17 teams had less than $1 million in final cap space at the pause. Two teams, Arizona and Toronto, had zero cap space. Dallas had $815. The timing won’t be great for a crop of potential unrestricted free agents, such as Alex Pietrangelo, Torey Krug and Taylor Hall. But this new CBA is better than the alternative." Habs have 6th most caproom in current list ($4.5m), On its face it seems the Habs are in a good spot; i dont have a clue who needs resigned, who gets raises and what kind of raises will need to be given out? Alzner wasted contract $$ might hurt a bit more now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 hours ago, DON said: Sounds like outlook is bad for teams near the cap; Bit on it from Burnside, The Athletic: "With a flat cap for the foreseeable future, players’ earning potential is going to be blunted. It means that teams that have been spending to the cap and have locked up assets long term are going to face difficult decisions on key players. As one salary cap expert noted, “Whoever has salary cap space is going to rule the realm.” According to the tremendous hockey resource CapFriendly.com, 17 teams had less than $1 million in final cap space at the pause. Two teams, Arizona and Toronto, had zero cap space. Dallas had $815. The timing won’t be great for a crop of potential unrestricted free agents, such as Alex Pietrangelo, Torey Krug and Taylor Hall. But this new CBA is better than the alternative." Habs have 6th most caproom in current list ($4.5m), On its face it seems the Habs are in a good spot; i dont have a clue who needs resigned, who gets raises and what kind of raises will need to be given out? Alzner wasted contract $$ might hurt a bit more now. The "solution" for Alzner might be to see if they can move him as a $2.3125 defenceman (i.e., retain 50%) ... FOR ANYTHING ... pucks, jockstraps, expired gift cards ... that puts him in the Jordie Benn / Greg Pateryn cap-hit range ... Alzner has not (IMO) played as poorly as perceived by many, just not provided what was expected when he was signed ... and he has been great with how he has handled playing in Laval ... but he is unlikely to be a Hab again ... and every $2.3125 million helps exploit other teams Lots of teams in cap trouble to play trade rumours with ... but that will be an "off-season" discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 A trade with retention was my conclusion of what Plan A should be when assessing the different buyout scenarios with Alzner last month: http://www.habsworld.net/2020/06/when-is-the-right-time-for-the-habs-to-buy-out-karl-alzner/ The return in that instance would probably be another player that would be buried in the minors or bought out but whose contract is structured in such a way that the Habs would still save a few bucks in the end (similar to the Sergei Samsonov trade from years ago). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 https://twitter.com/i/status/1282376952276496395 Give this fellow an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Phase 3&4 roster announced FORWARDS Joel Armia Paul Byron Phillip Danault Max Domi Jonathan Drouin Jake Evans Brendan Gallagher Charles Hudon Jesperi Kotkaniemi Artturi Lehkonen Ryan Poehling Nick Suzuki Tomas Tatar Jordan Weal Dale Weise DEFENSEMEN Josh Brook Ben Chiarot Cale Fleury Christian Folin Noah Juulsen Brett Kulak Victor Mete Gustav Olofsson Xavier Ouellet Jeff Petry Alexander Romanov Shea Weber GOALIES Charlie Lindgren Michael McNiven Carey Price Cayden Primeau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Sheesh, the body isn't even cold yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Brook eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 Add Alex Belzile and Laurent Dauphin to that list of those at camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 12 hours ago, Trizzak said: Sheesh, the body isn't even cold yet. Portending something happening to Alzner? Trade and buy-out have been speculated ... he could also ask for the deal to be terminated ... if the Habs won't keep him on the team but don't want him in Laval they could look at a loan to Europe ... or ... he could also just walk away and play in Europe (meaning he gets suspended rather than terminated). IMO ... the first two most likely ... third a long shot ... loan very unlikely ... and walking away is possible but lowest chance of happening. Helping with the potential for a trade, his actual salary is $3 and $3.5 million the next two season, less than his $4.625 cap-hit ... he is thus the proverbial "free cap space" player ($1.635 & $1.125) ... not huge but could be made even more enticing if Habs retain some of both cap and salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLassister Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 So, the new CBA kind of saves Nashville's ass regarding Weber potential early retirement, doesn't it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, JoeLassister said: So, the new CBA kind of saves Nashville's ass regarding Weber potential early retirement, doesn't it ? Yup ... may have been an alternative concession since they did not allow for any "free/amnesty" buyouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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