alfredoh2009 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: I don’t get why Koko and now Poehling are being saddled with Lekhonan and Byron. Don’t know why they don’t try a kid line. Out Suzuki with one one Poehling or Koko. I thought that it was simply to allow the future top two centres to improve at the NHL level with solid defensive teammates that can also pinch in 15 to 20 goals I think it's a good way to let them play decent minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs#4,9,10,33 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Not one to complain about referees, but I honestly think they were responsible for sucking the air from the sails of the Habs on this game. We came out flying and had go pace and opportunity shots on net. The penalty shot and Weal penalty which resulted in a goal. Come to mind on first thought. Both very weak! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 hours ago, hab29RETIRED said: Stats be damned. Lekhonan was a guy I was excited about, but I think lekhonan would have finishing in a whorehouse. With a fistful of hundreds. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: Yes, two even-strength goals so far this year, and three assists for five points. Other forwards (on even strength) ... Suzuki: 3g + 2a = 5 Domi: 1g + 4a Thompson: 0g + 4a Armia: 2g + 2a Byron: 0g + 3a Lehkonen is not the only one "not producing". (I'm only comparing even strength as Lehkonen doesn't play on PP.) That's selective stats. Thompson had been great in a 4th line role. Domi and armia both have pp points and have produced. Hell Armia is a beast this year. Suzuki has done fairly well in his role overall. Byron is not shooting. His shot numbers are crazy low. Lehko... read what habs29 said. Byron and Lehkonen are not performing well enough to be with talented players right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsfan89 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Won't surprise me if Byron gets traded. If he doesn't this year for sure next year he will. Is this the first year or 2nd year of his new deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 57 minutes ago, Habsfan89 said: Won't surprise me if Byron gets traded. If he doesn't this year for sure next year he will. Is this the first year or 2nd year of his new deal First year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 hours ago, BCHabnut said: That's selective stats. Thompson had been great in a 4th line role. Domi and armia both have pp points and have produced. Hell Armia is a beast this year. Suzuki has done fairly well in his role overall. Byron is not shooting. His shot numbers are crazy low. Lehko... read what habs29 said. Byron and Lehkonen are not performing well enough to be with talented players right now. I'm not "selecting" any stats. These are simply the 5-on-5 goal/assist numbers for this year, comparable between players (normalized for playing time and excluding special teams). Byron's stats are very bad, both the basic and advanced. Lehkonen's are not as bad: he is a defensive forward, after all, not a scorer. On the basic stats, the third- and fourth-line players are all roughly around zero for plus-minus. And Byron is actually +2. The only exceptions are Cousins at +5 and Weal at -4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCHabnut Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Armia is off to an amazing start. Domi is solid and looking like last year will repeat. Thompson has been fantastic for a fourth liner. Suzuki has been good as a rookie. "I couldn't hit a fat lady's ass with a scoop shovel" Lehkonen has not had a comparable start to those guys. Byron is even worse this year because he isn't even shooting the puck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Domi's playing looks good, but his 5-on-5 results are not on last year's level: he's scoring at 0.33+1.33/60 minutes so far this year, compared to 1.16+1.64/60 last year. His totals look OK this year because his PP results are good, 1g+4a so far on the PP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habber31 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 You're getting carried away with these advanced stats. They get skewed and meaningless, when there are this few games played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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