MONTREAL CANADIENS HISTORY SITE

[shortcat1]

I found this site about the Canadiens. It's called 'The Dutch Montreal Canadiens Hockeysite'.

www.spelten.com/mauricerichard/HabsHistory/History/index.htm

But, for me, the interesting part is the page called 'Teamphoto's 1909-1999.

www.spelten.com/mauricerichard/HabsHistory/History/index.htm

At the top center of the page, there's a picture of the crests of the Montreal Canadiens, beginning in 1909. The intriguing one is the second crest, the one from 1910. I've never seen it before. Any ideas as to it's validity?

Also, under 'Dream Team', there's an interesting compiled photo of the site owner's best ever players. I wonder if there would be any disagreements to these choices.

Check it out!

:ghg::ghg::ghg:

[PMAC]

I found this logo site which lists a slightly different logo for 1909-10

http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?l_id=1..._id=16&logo=248

[Dalhabs]

yikes... we use to be leafs as well once....

[wutabi]

Just look at the team photo from 1909-1910. All players are wearing jerseys with the logo in question.

[wutabi]

The Dream Team wasn't the site owner's. It was a poll to decide the starting 6 all-time. Plante, Robinson, Harvey, Richard, Beliveau, Moore, Blake(coach). Gainey (captain at the time) and Auriel Joliet (oldest living player at teh time) appear as well.

I couldn't argue too much against this starting lineup. Surprised that Morenz wasn't included. Of course Roy went on to do what he did after this time, and other members of the 70s dynasty (Lafleur, Cournoyer) could join Robinson. Perhaps if you did a full 23-man roster you could get a real debate!

[shortcat1]

Originally posted by Dalhabs

yikes... we use to be leafs as well once....

Well, aren't we all just 'brothers' under God?

[shortcat1]

Originally posted by wutabi

Just look at the team photo from 1909-1910. All players are wearing jerseys with the logo in question.

You're right. I had never considered looking at the previous year's team sweaters because I assumed that 1910 meant 1910 - 1911.

watago wutabi :clap:

As to the 23 (or 25) man dream team idea, you are right again. That would certainly lead to some good discussions. I bet it's worth starting a thread on that topic. You thought of it, it's yours to start.

[Edited on 2005/9/11 by shortcat1]

[wutabi]

My best 23-man all-time roster. (ok 24 - I can't cut one of those goalies!)

H. Blake -- E. Lach - M. Richard

F. Mahovlich -- J. Beliveau -- G. Lafleur

D.Moore -- H. Morenz -- B. Geoffrion

B. Gainey -- Y. Cornoyer -- J. Lemaire

G. Carbonneau -- S. Shutt

D. Harvey -- L. Robinson

S. Savard -- G. Lapointe

E. Bouchard -- J. Laperriere

S. Mantha

J. Plante

K. Dryden

P. Roy

[Edited on 2005/9/11 by wutabi]

[wutabi]

Nice find on that site Shortcat - interesting pics, etc.

[simonus]

Originally posted by wutabi

My best 23-man all-time roster. (ok 24 - I can't cut one of those goalies!)

but you can cut vezina, hainsworth, and durnan? Heretic!

[Peter Puck]

Originally posted by shortcat1

As to the 23 (or 25) man dream team idea, you are right again. That would certainly lead to some good discussions. I bet it's worth starting a thread on that topic. You thought of it, it's yours to start.

[Edited on 2005/9/11 by shortcat1]

Actually there was a thread with the topic "Greatest Roster of all Time" less than a month ago. It was started by kaos and here is what he had to say (I can't find much to dispute about koas' points):

Originally posted by kaos

I found myself very bored over the last few days with most of the good free agents signed, and waiting for the signings of Koivu, Theodore & Ryder and found myself thinking about the greatest Montreal Canadiens ever. So I thought I'd put together what I thought would be the greatest Montreal Canadiens Roster ever.

I found it difficult to narrow it down and actually could have come up with 2 or even 3 teams, if I included guys who only played 1, 2 or even jsut 3 seasons.

I checked through past posts and nobody has seem to have done this.

Feel free to add comments, hopefully adding a team of your own.

1st Line D Moore - J Beliveau - M Richard

Maybe the only way to make this line better would be to make Guy Lafleur shoot left. Size, Speed, Determination and Leadership.

Jean Beliveau - really no need for explanation but - Quint Essential Big Centerman...theres a reason hes called "Le Gros Bill" . Perhaps top 3 all time center with Gretzky and Lemieux?

Maurice Richard - no need of explanation much like Beliveau. From the blue line in hes the best there was.

Left Wing - maybe a bit of a suprise, but he won 2 Art Ross trophies and beat Howes record at the time of 96 points. Strong 2 way player.

2nd Line Y. Cournoyer - H Morenz - G Lafleur

Morenz - fastest and most talented player of his era

Lafleur - a no brainer

Yvan Cournoyer - only other habs?? who could possibly keep up with Morenz and Lafleur

Wow, the speed and skill would be amazing. Kinda a smallish line, but incredibly talented.

3rd Line S Shutt - P Mahovlich - B Geoffrion

P Mahovlich is a very underated player, with great size and hands. Guy had 150 assists in two years in the 70's. Would feed Geoffrion's cannon, and if the goalie happened to stop it, Shutt would continue making a career of picking up the garbage. 50 & 60 goal scorers on the 3rd line? INCREDIBLE.

4th Line B Gainey - Guy Carbonneau - H. Richard

This is the defensive line.

Guy Carbonneau - 3 Selke Trophies , 2 Stanly Cups 5 time 20 goal scorer...name a better defensive player...never mind, I will...........

Bob Gainey, better than Carbonneau defensively. THis guy makes my team simply because the Russians said he was the best player they have ever seen...now thats saying something. Atleast 5 Stanley Cups, 1 COnn Smyth and 4 Selke's

Henri Richard - 11 Stanley Cups....can play on my team any day.

Defensmen

Doug Harvey - BEst defensman of his era. Was Bobby Orr before Bobby Orr. 6 time Norris Trophy winner.

Larry Robinson - Big Strong and talented. 7 time Stanley cup winner

Serge Savard - 2nd of the big three from the 1970's

Won 6 or soStanley Cups, first defensman to ever win the Conn Smythe, and a great leader

Guy Lapointe - 3rd of the big 3 70's guys. Had a mean streak to go with his Offensive and Defensive abilities. Recored 3 20+ goal seasons.

Sylvio Mantha - one of the best two way defensman of his era and 3 time Stanley CUp winner.

Chris Chelios - might get booed for this one, but this guy is a true warrior, won a Stanley Cup, and Norris Trophy while with the Habs, and is a surefire hall of famer. Was my favorite Habs growing up, and have always worn 24 because of him.

My seventh defensman would be Jean Guy Talbot.

Goalies

Wow...this was the hardest choice. I don't think you could have gone wrong with any of Georges Vezina, Georges Hainsworth, Jaques Plante, Lorne Worsley, Ken Dryden, or Patrick Roy.

I went with Patrick Roy because I grew up with him, and Jaques Plante. Ken Dryden was awesome, but gave up hockey for Lawyering, was the Leafs president and now is an MP which makes me sick so I ommited him.

You couldn't go wrong wiht George Vezina, afterall they name the best goalie trophy after him and hey Georges Hainsworth once had 22 shutouts in a season surrendering 43 goals in 44 games..WOW.

But I'll stick with Roy and Plante.

OH and for a goon I'll take John Ferguson

I really wanted to add Elmer Lach but couldn't fit him in at center. Bummer.... Heres some other that I thought about but didn't fit in for whatever reason.

Bert Olmstead, Elmer Lach, Newsy Lalonde, Aurele Joliat, Emile Bouchard, Rod Langway, Mats Naslund, Claude Lemieux, Stephane Richer, Jaques Lemaire, Jaques Lapierre, Toe Blake, Vincent Damphouse, Mark Recchi, Frank Mahovlich, Bobby Smith, Rick Green, Craig Ludwig, Brian Skrudland, Eric Dejardins

Wow, what a complete waste of an hour....I gotta find something better to do with myself

So can you come up with a team?

[bebehabs]

hey hey~ nice site but i just wanna tell u guys that the pix in the pix section are scanned from one of the most interesting habs book history : la glorieuse histoire des canadiens

i have one copy of it and i just checked the *team pix* in it hehe~ the webmaster just scanned and re-work on the pix effects so it looks VERY nicer

i checked on amazon.com and wasn't able to find it out, but it's available on amazon.ca (for people living in montreal, u can get it at habs boutique at the bell center --> in the front desk, or get a copy at renaud-bray like i did last year hehe~)

NOTE : the book is in FRENCH so if u dunt understand french... it's tough

what's good in it? at each habs season, there's a team pic, season highlights, it also describes who did what (like the top players), and what happened, who had probs with what, etc~ it's very detailed and it's a good way to learn more about the habs *real* story :ghg:

[Edited on 2005/9/13 by bebehabs]