dlbalr Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, DON said: How many prospects will be at training camp, normal amount (all but NCAA guys?)? Or much reduced due to quarantine? There's a cap of 36 skaters allowed at camp plus unlimited goalies (I expect all 6 will be invited as a result). So there will be room for some youngsters from Laval but there will be players on NHL contracts that aren't invited this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted December 28, 2020 Author Share Posted December 28, 2020 A couple of dominoes up front are starting to fall now. Hoffman to STL on a PTO that will be converted to a deal in the $4M range once the season starts and they get LTIR space. (Apparently the Habs were in on this one and had exploratory talks about making a move to shed salary, per Pierre LeBrun.) Athanasiou to LA on a one-year deal around $1.2M. I wonder if he's now regretting rejecting the offer he got for Edmonton which I believe was close to double this back in October. (Edmonton did well with the money they were going to give him by re-signing Tyler Ennis and signing Kyle Turris.) Vatanen, Hamonic, and Chara are all still unsigned but that shouldn't be the case much longer. I expect Tampa to sign a d-man in the next little bit now that they have a bit of cap space to work with (but the addition has to be made before the season starts for LTIR timing purposes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 Toews to miss TC and start of season with unnamed illness ... hope it is not serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, GHT120 said: Toews to miss TC and start of season with unnamed illness ... hope it is not serious Kinda assumed was covid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, DON said: Kinda assumed was covid? There is no timetable for his return so I don't expect it's COVID-19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, tomh009 said: There is no timetable for his return so I don't expect it's COVID-19. Agreed ... his statement seems to indicate it has been going on for some time ... it just doesn't "feel" good: This offseason, I’ve been experiencing symptoms that have left me feeling drained and lethargic. I am working with doctors so I can better understand my condition. Until I can get my health back to a place where I feel I can perform at an elite level and help my team, I will not be joining the Blackhawks for training camp. I do not have a timetable for when I will rejoin the team. I am extremely disappointed, but it wouldn’t be fair to myself or my teammates to attempt to play in my current condition. I am grateful for the continuous support from and ongoing communication with the Blackhawks organization. Stan Bowman, Rocky Wirtz, Danny Wirtz, Jeremy Colliton and my teammates have been nothing but understanding of my situation, and I appreciate them standing by me. To Blackhawks fans, I will continue to do whatever I can to get back on the ice and return to play the game I love for the team I love. I will not be making any further comment at this time and ask everyone to please respect my privacy as I focus on my health and recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 It could be something like chronic fatigue syndrome. And that typically takes 6+ months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trizzak Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Chara leaves the Bruins and heads to Washington on a 1 year deal. The really weird thing is apparently Montreal tried to sign him, and one of the only reasons he didn't is because of travel complications since he's leaving his family in Boston this season. Now I think Zdeno is washed AF nowadays, but if I shut off my brain and picture a Chara - Romanov pairing... is this how kinks are discovered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Canadiens Montréal on Twitter: "𝐄𝐍 𝐑𝐀𝐏𝐏𝐄𝐋: 42 joueurs sont invités au camp d'entraînement à compter du 3 janvier 𝐈𝐂𝐘𝐌𝐈: 42 players will report to training camp on Jan. 3 #GoHabsGo https://t.co/1R9slQOSrU" / Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chicoutimi Cucumber Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Trizzak said: Chara leaves the Bruins and heads to Washington on a 1 year deal. The really weird thing is apparently Montreal tried to sign him, and one of the only reasons he didn't is because of travel complications since he's leaving his family in Boston this season. Now I think Zdeno is washed AF nowadays, but if I shut off my brain and picture a Chara - Romanov pairing... is this how kinks are discovered? Chara is scum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Sad news (IMO) ... he is a hit away from very bad newshttps://blackhawkup.com/2020/12/31/blackhawks-andrew-shaw-cleared-return-play-2021-season/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 23 hours ago, Trizzak said: Chara leaves the Bruins and heads to Washington on a 1 year deal. The really weird thing is apparently Montreal tried to sign him, and one of the only reasons he didn't is because of travel complications since he's leaving his family in Boston this season. Now I think Zdeno is washed AF nowadays, but if I shut off my brain and picture a Chara - Romanov pairing... is this how kinks are discovered? I think the free agent signing by the Bruins of Chara in 2006 will go down in history as one of the best free agent signings ever. You don't often get 14 years of service from a free agent, most of those top notch. Ottawa decided to sign Wade Redden instead. Ooops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, GHT120 said: Sad news (IMO) ... he is a hit away from very bad newshttps://blackhawkup.com/2020/12/31/blackhawks-andrew-shaw-cleared-return-play-2021-season/ If I were him, with a wife and two kids, and $23M in career earnings to date, I'd be hanging up the skates and making sure I can enjoy time with my family. But I'm not a pro athlete, and Shaw's thinking process is surely not the same as mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 13 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: I think the free agent signing by the Bruins of Chara in 2006 will go down in history as one of the best free agent signings ever. You don't often get 14 years of service from a free agent, most of those top notch. Ottawa decided to sign Wade Redden instead. Ooops. As I recall, Ottawa offered Redden and Chara the same contract ... but after Muckler trading Hossa (Chara's close friend) the day after signing him to a 3-yr contract there is a theory that so offended Chara that he wouldn't re-sign with Ottawa ... so not necessarily a choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Agree with CC, Chara is scum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 why waste so many letters talking about ZC Be gone and be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs Fan in Edmonton Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, GHT120 said: As I recall, Ottawa offered Redden and Chara the same contract ... but after Muckler trading Hossa (Chara's close friend) the day after signing him to a 3-yr contract there is a theory that so offended Chara that he wouldn't re-sign with Ottawa ... so not necessarily a choice. I think it was a question of money, Ottawa didn't have the money to spend that other teams have. I saw this quote from Muckler so i think Chara simply made a business decision. ''Chara will be a good hockey player for them,'' said Muckler, who added he isn't done with the free-agent market. ''7.5 (million dollars per season) was certainly more than we could carry." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHT120 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 36 minutes ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: I think it was a question of money, Ottawa didn't have the money to spend that other teams have. I saw this quote from Muckler so i think Chara simply made a business decision. ''Chara will be a good hockey player for them,'' said Muckler, who added he isn't done with the free-agent market. ''7.5 (million dollars per season) was certainly more than we could carry." No doubt the Sens were not big spenders ... but don't think it was just about money ... Chara had lost any interest in staying because of Muckler's treatment of Hossa ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Habs Fan in Edmonton said: I think the free agent signing by the Bruins of Chara in 2006 will go down in history as one of the best free agent signings ever. You don't often get 14 years of service from a free agent, most of those top notch. Ottawa decided to sign Wade Redden instead. Ooops. That decision also cost them Hossa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hab29RETIRED Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 9 hours ago, GHT120 said: As I recall, Ottawa offered Redden and Chara the same contract ... but after Muckler trading Hossa (Chara's close friend) the day after signing him to a 3-yr contract there is a theory that so offended Chara that he wouldn't re-sign with Ottawa ... so not necessarily a choice. You’re probably right. For some reason I remembered it as being the other way around - Hossa not wanting to resign extension because of the Chara trade, so they traded him. Both were bad decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 So I assuming this is the correct thread to talk about other teams. Anyone know what Tampa is going to do? With Kucherov on LTIR, Schenn and Johnson waived, they are still about 500k (quick math, probably wrong) I’ve the cap and only have 11 forward, 5 defence and 2 goalies. They can’t even afford to activate Kucherov when he his healthily. Plus don’t they need to have a minimum roster of 18 or 20 to be eligible to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, TurdBurglar said: So I assuming this is the correct thread to talk about other teams. Anyone know what Tampa is going to do? With Kucherov on LTIR, Schenn and Johnson waived, they are still about 500k (quick math, probably wrong) I’ve the cap and only have 11 forward, 5 defence and 2 goalies. They can’t even afford to activate Kucherov when he his healthily. Plus don’t they need to have a minimum roster of 18 or 20 to be eligible to play? 18 skaters minimum, yes. So, need to add two warm bodies, at least. But they need to dump some salary first ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, tomh009 said: 18 skaters minimum, yes. So, need to add two warm bodies, at least. But they need to dump some salary first ... What happens if they aren’t cap compliant? Just cap penalties? What happens if they don’t have enough skaters? Do they have to forfeit until they do? I've never seen a situation like this in the NHL before. So many questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomh009 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 It's extra complicated because they are using LTIR -- they need to be under the cap but they want to be as close to $81.5M as possible (think Price is Right!). LTIR details here: https://www.capfriendly.com/ltir-faq And the TB gymnastics here -- they are hoping that someone will claim Johnson, I expect, so that they will get some cap space: https://www.rawcharge.com/2021/1/11/22225025/tampa-bay-lightning-place-tyler-johnson-and-luke-schenn-on-waivers-open-up-salary-cap-options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Interesting grouping of top 100 NHLers. (from The Athletic, Craig Custance and Dom Luszczyszyn) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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