PMAC Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Please forgive me for once again referring to the Dark years, but I found it interesting that from Houle's reign of error there are only four players left on the current Habs roster. An incredibly lucky 1998 draft gave is Ribs, 2nd round, Markov in the 6th round and Ryder in the 8th round. This shows that even then the hockey gods had not forsaken us. The fourth player is Souray who came over in perhaps Houle's only good deal, the Malakov trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortcat1 Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Ah..... Houle bashing..... how I missed it..... NOT! :hlogo::ghg::hlogo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted November 18, 2005 Author Share Posted November 18, 2005 Well said Shortcat:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
option+ Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Houle deserves all the criticism he gets. But we must not forget that Serge Savard was poor in his last few years too. I won't even get into that Savard-Chelios trade... his drafting in the last few years, other than getting Koivu and Theodore, was horrible. Remember his fixation with the Seattle Thunderbirds? That got us Lindsay Vallis, Turner Stevenson, Brent Bilodeau and former T-Bird David Wilkie as first rounders in consecutive drafts. Horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Savard trade at the time was good. He still had alot of good hockey left in him and played well in Montreal. Chelios did win two Norris trophies yes and the Canadiens could have gotten more for him, but at the time Savard was still an elite talent. As for Savard's draft history. I will simply remind everyone of the 1984 and 1987 drafts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo-AH! Roo-AH! Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Savard was pressured into the Chelios trade by that idiot Corey. He's been quite public about that. He's much more culpable on the LeClair deal, although I honestly don't believe that LeClair ever would have produced like that with us. Remember that, after the Chelios debacle, Savard traded Richer for Muller, Corson for Damphousse, and Courtnall for Bellows. That's two second liners and a moron in exchange for the first line that led us to the 1993 Cup. Not too shabby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 Who is/was the moron? Richer or Corson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo-AH! Roo-AH! Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Richer. Corson, I respect, even though the trade that brought him back here was laughably uneven. Richer...don't get me started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casseau Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Everyone still whines about the LeClair - Recchi trade, but LeClair had never scored more than 20 goals at the time and was a huge disappointment coming off the Cup win in 93. Recchi however was a multiple 100 point man. I remember being more pissed off at losing Desjardins and perhaps the best Elvis impersonator in NHL history in Gilbert Dionne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 The problem was that we gave up three NHLers and got back Recchi and a draft pick. At the time LeClair and Dionne still had tons of upside and Desgardins was a top defenseman. It sucked and Houles follow-up trade made it even harder to bear. Then AS provided some consolation l by getting Bullis, Zed and Zhog for Darius what's his name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
option+ Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Zubrus, Linden and a second rounder (Andreas Holmqvist) for Bulis, Zed and Perez. Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafs Suck Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 That was Savard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMAC Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 Originally posted by Leafs SuckThat was Savard. Thats what I said " Then AS provided some relief..." AS= Andre Savard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I think he was talking to option+ who pointed out the Bulis/Zednik trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
option+ Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I was referring to AS too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTH Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Originally posted by option+I was referring to AS too. Ah ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remonatrix Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 The BAD: Trading Roy Trading Rechi Trading Leclair and other fine goal scoring magicians The Good: Trading Thibeault (that was a good thing) and Icing the worst team ever assemble by a MTL General Manager - EVER ! thanks for setting us back 10 years Peanut - thanks for ever ...:que::hlogo::que::nono::nono::mad::mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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