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Prime Minister Koivu Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 Are we about to turn things around or are we entering a Canadiens losing streak as is the yearly tradition? Someone please elbow that dirty crybaby mcdavid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbhatt Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 This is a sad day for me. For the first time since the pre-Kovalev lull, I will not watch the Habs game in spite of being free to do so this evening. I just can't bring myself to care about this bunch of losers anymore...the boring anemic offense has broken my will. I'm not watching another game until Caufield debuts. I hope they make it worth your while to watch, gentlemen; I will be watching the episode of Mayans that I missed last night, and then Snowfall after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, sbhatt said: This is a sad day for me. For the first time since the pre-Kovalev lull, I will not watch the Habs game in spite of being free to do so this evening. I just can't bring myself to care about this bunch of losers anymore...the boring anemic offense has broken my will. I'm not watching another game until Caufield debuts. I hope they make it worth your while to watch, gentlemen; I will be watching the episode of Mayans that I missed last night, and then Snowfall after that. Yeah this will be a first period watch and PVR the rest for tomorrow morning. Im holding hope that we can turn things around and roll into the playoffs on fire. I may take up smoking cannabis too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neech Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 29 minutes ago, sbhatt said: This is a sad day for me. For the first time since the pre-Kovalev lull, I will not watch the Habs game in spite of being free to do so this evening. I just can't bring myself to care about this bunch of losers anymore...the boring anemic offense has broken my will. I'm not watching another game until Caufield debuts. I hope they make it worth your while to watch, gentlemen; I will be watching the episode of Mayans that I missed last night, and then Snowfall after that. This is the first season you've stopped watching? I've only sparsely watched the second half of the last few seasons (also had a good Raptors team to take my attention). Granted, this season is worse because we had actual expectations and the hopes were so high after our hot start. I'm on the verge of taking some time off after the last few mediocre performances - it'll probably take one or two more to put me over the edge. Painfully boring to watch lately, especially when we think back to the 4-line beast of an offense we had to begin the year. As for the lineup, Drouin finally gets a deserved demotion, but will it help? Doubtful. And Kulak undeservedly sits - I would rather give Shea a night or two off. I'm still of the belief that if Kulak, Chiarot and Edmundson all had about the same contract, that Kulak wouldn't be the one riding the pine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredoh2009 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 56 minutes ago, sbhatt said: This is a sad day for me. For the first time since the pre-Kovalev lull, I will not watch the Habs game in spite of being free to do so this evening. I just can't bring myself to care about this bunch of losers anymore...the boring anemic offense has broken my will. I'm not watching another game until Caufield debuts. I hope they make it worth your while to watch, gentlemen; I will be watching the episode of Mayans that I missed last night, and then Snowfall after that. I may pick up a TV series too, instead of the game. I enjoy listening to the radio play-by-play on the TSN website the morning after: win or lose, Mommesso and Robertson make it entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DON Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Are we about to turn things around or are we entering a Canadiens losing streak as is the yearly tradition? Someone please elbow that dirty crybaby mcdavid It seemed KK is driving him a bit crazy and i hope that continues. BUT, god damn if i know how anyone stops him when he gets going 90mph (within the rules that is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I hope the projected d pairings are wrong. Edmundson (or Kulak) – Weber Gustafsson – Petry Romanov – Merrill Scratches: Chiarot, Kulak, Chiarot did play well last game, but he gets too many penalties and doesn't help offensively so I'd rather see somebody else play. The Habs unarguably picked up Gustafsson for offence and especially the PP and the Habs get PP's every game so it doesn't make sense to sit him. Plus their offence has been under performing and their PP has been dismal as of late so put him into a game ASAP. I'd like to see him play defence 1st and I think he might be a good fit with Petry because he's the Habs most offensive dman. i.e. Petry is the Habs best equivalent to Duncan Keith who Gustafsson played with when got all those points. If he's really bad defensively start playing him regularly as a winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurdBurglar Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sir_Boagalott said: I hope the projected d pairings are wrong. Edmundson (or Kulak) – Weber Gustafsson – Petry Romanov – Merrill Scratches: Chiarot, Kulak, Chiarot did play well last game, but he gets too many penalties and doesn't help offensively so I'd rather see somebody else play. The Habs unarguably picked up Gustafsson for offence and especially the PP and the Habs get PP's every game so it doesn't make sense to sit him. Plus their offence has been under performing and their PP has been dismal as of late so put him into a game ASAP. I'd like to see him play defence 1st and I think he might be a good fit with Petry because he's the Habs most offensive dman. i.e. Petry is the Habs best equivalent to Duncan Keith who Gustafsson played with when got all those points. If he's really bad defensively start playing him regularly as a winger. I think Gustafsson is still in quarantine. Scratches: Kulak, Gustafsson (quarantine), Price (concussion, 4/19) - as per TSN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Gustafsson was acquired for a 7th round pick and the Flyers picked up half his salary. That tells you how much he is valued around the NHL... its not much, and I highly doubt he will be on our top pairing anytime soon (And make no mistake, whoever is with Petry is the top pairing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 @TurdBurglar that might be the case, but wasn't he traded the same day as Merrill? If he's available tonight I figured Gustafsson would be available too. There is a video of Gustafsson in a hotel quarantining from April 14, which was 7 days ago. 6 minutes ago, Commandant said: Gustafsson was acquired for a 7th round pick and the Flyers picked up half his salary. That tells you how much he is valued around the NHL... its not much, and I highly doubt he will be on our top pairing anytime soon (And make no mistake, whoever is with Petry is the top pairing). The Flyers dumped him because he wasnt working out, but its like nobody on the flyers is working out. i.e. they should be a playoff team this year, but they are not. I agree that Petry is the top pairing, thats why I suggest Gustafsson plays with him due to in his "outlier season" he was playing with the Hawks top dman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Gustafsson is available and skated with the team today but a practice or two before jumping in certainly wouldn't hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 18 minutes ago, Sir_Boagalott said: @TurdBurglar that might be the case, but wasn't he traded the same day as Merrill? If he's available tonight I figured Gustafsson would be available too. There is a video of Gustafsson in a hotel quarantining from April 14, which was 7 days ago. The Flyers dumped him because he wasnt working out, but its like nobody on the flyers is working out. i.e. they should be a playoff team this year, but they are not. I agree that Petry is the top pairing, thats why I suggest Gustafsson plays with him due to in his "outlier season" he was playing with the Hawks top dman. There are 16 playoff teams that could use a defenceman.... no one wanted him enough to make his trade value more than a 7th rounder with the flyers retaining half the salary. Teams were looking for dmen, and guys like Merrill, Jordie Benn, Ben Hutton, Erik Gudbransson, Madison Bowey, Dmitry Kulikov, Frederick Klaeson, Mike Reilly, and Jonas Siegenthaler all had more value in trades. That tells you what the league thinks of the guy.... that he's not good. He wasn't even a top dman on his team in his outlier season. He's a complete disaster defensively. Even if he gets in the lineup, he'll be a PP specialist, and i highly doubt that he gets 20+ minutes of ice time (ie top four) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Commandant said: There are 16 playoff teams that could use a defenceman.... no one wanted him enough to make his trade value more than a 7th rounder with the flyers retaining half the salary. He wasn't even a top dman on his team in his outlier season. He's a complete disaster defensively. Even if he gets in the lineup, he'll be a PP specialist, and i highly doubt that he gets 20+ minutes of ice time (ie top four) I've checked his TOI to see if that helps explain his outlier season - but it doesnt. i.e. he played over 20 mins/game in his 2 lesser seasons with the Hawks, and in his outlier season he played almost 2 mins more. However, in his best year he happened to be playing with Keith that season. (Gustafsson says that in an interview). Thats my reason for saying the emergence of DeBrincat is likely why the Hawks got rid of him. That might seem silly considering 1 is a Dman and the other a forward, but that just means the Hawks didnt need his offence on the PP anymore. i.e DeBrincat made Gustafsson expendable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I dont think a forward makes a 60 point defenceman expendable. You have two PP units. The fact that he could never replicate that season and his defensive game is poor is what made him expendable. Besides that, he is on his 4th team in 14 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, Commandant said: There are 16 playoff teams that could use a defenceman.... no one wanted him enough to make his trade value more than a 7th rounder with the flyers retaining half the salary. Teams were looking for dmen, and guys like Merrill, Jordie Benn, Ben Hutton, Erik Gudbransson, Madison Bowey, Dmitry Kulikov, Frederick Klaeson, Mike Reilly, and Jonas Siegenthaler all had more value in trades. That tells you what the league thinks of the guy.... that he's not good. He wasn't even a top dman on his team in his outlier season. He's a complete disaster defensively. Even if he gets in the lineup, he'll be a PP specialist, and i highly doubt that he gets 20+ minutes of ice time (ie top four) 45 minutes ago, Sir_Boagalott said: @TurdBurglar that might be the case, but wasn't he traded the same day as Merrill? If he's available tonight I figured Gustafsson would be available too. There is a video of Gustafsson in a hotel quarantining from April 14, which was 7 days ago. The Flyers dumped him because he wasnt working out, but its like nobody on the flyers is working out. i.e. they should be a playoff team this year, but they are not. I agree that Petry is the top pairing, thats why I suggest Gustafsson plays with him due to in his "outlier season" he was playing with the Hawks top dman. 56 minutes ago, Commandant said: Gustafsson was acquired for a 7th round pick and the Flyers picked up half his salary. That tells you how much he is valued around the NHL... its not much, and I highly doubt he will be on our top pairing anytime soon (And make no mistake, whoever is with Petry is the top pairing). He got more than Mete got and we talk highly of Mete for some reason! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: He got more than Mete got and we talk highly of Mete for some reason! Do you want Mete in our top 4? Was he ever used that way (this season)? No, and there are good reasons for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Minister Koivu Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 Just now, Commandant said: Do you want Mete in our top 4? Was he ever used that way? Mete was top LD for many games but my only comment was about only paying a 7th and half salary for the guy vs. Mete for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commandant Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Prime Minister Koivu said: Mete was top LD for many games but my only comment was about only paying a 7th and half salary for the guy vs. Mete for free Not this season he wasn't a top LD. And the year he was used there, we had none of our current LD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, sbhatt said: This is a sad day for me. For the first time since the pre-Kovalev lull, I will not watch the Habs game in spite of being free to do so this evening. I just can't bring myself to care about this bunch of losers anymore...the boring anemic offense has broken my will. I'm not watching another game until Caufield debuts. I hope they make it worth your while to watch, gentlemen; I will be watching the episode of Mayans that I missed last night, and then Snowfall after that. yet you take the time to post about it? Makes sense. Nobody cares about your personal bs, and don’t want to read the negative bs. Lots of worse happening in the world, poor you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Sir_Boagalott said: I hope the projected d pairings are wrong. Edmundson (or Kulak) – Weber Gustafsson – Petry Romanov – Merrill Scratches: Chiarot, Kulak, Chiarot did play well last game, but he gets too many penalties and doesn't help offensively so I'd rather see somebody else play. The Habs unarguably picked up Gustafsson for offence and especially the PP and the Habs get PP's every game so it doesn't make sense to sit him. Plus their offence has been under performing and their PP has been dismal as of late so put him into a game ASAP. I'd like to see him play defence 1st and I think he might be a good fit with Petry because he's the Habs most offensive dman. i.e. Petry is the Habs best equivalent to Duncan Keith who Gustafsson played with when got all those points. If he's really bad defensively start playing him regularly as a winger. You smoking crack? the guys a bum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyrealist Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, Sir_Boagalott said: I've checked his TOI to see if that helps explain his outlier season - but it doesnt. i.e. he played over 20 mins/game in his 2 lesser seasons with the Hawks, and in his outlier season he played almost 2 mins more. However, in his best year he happened to be playing with Keith that season. (Gustafsson says that in an interview). Thats my reason for saying the emergence of DeBrincat is likely why the Hawks got rid of him. That might seem silly considering 1 is a Dman and the other a forward, but that just means the Hawks didnt need his offence on the PP anymore. i.e DeBrincat made Gustafsson expendable. Still hitting that pipe? holy crap you make no sense. what ####ing team decides hey we’ve got enough offense on the PP, let’s trade an up and coming elite dman cause we score too many pp goals. they saw the opportunity to sell high on a weak asset and took advantage, philly was the sucker on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlbalr Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 @hockeyrealist, you can make your points without resorting to personal insults or wisecracks. They're not helpful or appreciated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 51 minutes ago, hockeyrealist said: holy crap you make no sense. what ####ing team decides hey we’ve got enough offense on the PP, let’s trade an up and coming elite dman cause we score too many pp goals. they saw the opportunity to sell high on a weak asset and took advantage, philly was the sucker on that. lol Not sure why I'm responding to you, but w/e. 51 minutes ago, hockeyrealist said: holy crap you make no sense. what ####ing team decides hey we’ve got enough offense on the PP, let’s trade an up and coming elite dman cause we score too many pp goals. they saw the opportunity to sell high on a weak asset and took advantage, philly was the sucker on that. What team doesnt think: we have a dman thats only good on the PP who's a UFA next near who will want a big raise and we have an up and coming elite sniper F that can easily replace his PP pts so lets trade him at the deadline for some pics? No team ever right? 😏 51 minutes ago, hockeyrealist said: they saw the opportunity to sell high on a weak asset and took advantage, philly was the sucker on that. Umm, yes, he was traded thats true. However, Philly didnt trade for him. The Hawks traded him at the deadline 1 year to the Flames. Philly signed him as a UFA - and in a year with a Cap freeze. You do realize that nobody says he's an elite dman. In fact most say he has little to no defensive skills at all. Hence the problem with him. The discussion is about his offensive skills and the Habs need for that and if he can help. Where would he be the best fit for there to be the best chance of him being helpful offensively? Also, try to protect his defensive faults? Again, I'd say Petry for both reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Boagalott Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Good on Perry for fighting. When they picked him up I figured we'd see him in several fights. D'oh, that was a lazy ass change by Anderson. Its hard to say bad things about him, but I've seen him do a couple of what I can only describe as Latandresse looking moves. Wow, Merrill almost scored there so he's already paying dividends. He's got a puck *on* net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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