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6 minutes ago, Commandant said:

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That’s a really great article written by Toffoli. 
 

worth the read. 
 

gives the warm fuzzies all over 

 

 

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1 hour ago, tomh009 said:

A great read. If he wrote it himself, he gets good marks for writing skills in addition to the putting of pucks in the net.

They never write it themselves. They tell someone the story with key quotes, and then it's ghostwritten to be good. 

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Excellent article, love the bits about Suzuki and Caulfield.  Liked the story about Sutter, that's what good coaches do, they worry about the process less than the result because they know you will eventually get results if you play the right way. 

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22 hours ago, Trizzak said:

They never write it themselves. They tell someone the story with key quotes, and then it's ghostwritten to be good. 

Yeah, that was my default assumption. But, I'm sure there is an NHL player out there somewhere who can write well.

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because it is hard to get tired of "Good Toffoli"

 

 

 

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Tanks!!  That was a great article.

 

On 5/15/2021 at 10:06 PM, Trizzak said:
On 5/15/2021 at 8:49 PM, tomh009 said:

A great read. If he wrote it himself, he gets good marks for writing skills in addition to the putting of pucks in the net.

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They never write it themselves. They tell someone the story with key quotes, and then it's ghostwritten to be good. 

 

Trizzak is right that ghostwriters are often used but I dont believe that to be the case with this article.  The way it is written it seems like he wrote all of it himself.  On his Twitter account Toffoli said "Had a great time putting this together" 

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13 hours ago, Commandant said:

None of that says he wrote it.

 

Again usually its an interview with the player and then the writer puts it together.

 

You're right, but it implies that he wrote it.  

 

Again, you're right, but when a site does an interview and then writes an article about it dont they typicall mention who actually wrote the article?  

 

Furthermore, when a staff writer does an article for somebody like that does the site normally create a writer profile page for a person that didnt write an article?

 

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3 minutes ago, Sir_Boagalott said:

 

You're right, but it implies that he wrote it.  

 

Again, you're right, but when a site does an interview and then writes an article about it dont they typicall mention who actually wrote the article?  

 

Furthermore, when a staff writer does an article for somebody like that does the site normally create a writer profile page for a person that didnt write an article?

 

They are usually all ghost written and I haven’t usually seen the actual writer credited.

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6 minutes ago, Sir_Boagalott said:

 

You're right, but it implies that he wrote it.  

 

Again, you're right, but when a site does an interview and then writes an article about it dont they typicall mention who actually wrote the article?  

 

Furthermore, when a staff writer does an article for somebody like that does the site normally create a writer profile page for a person that didnt write an article?

 

 

Most sites? Yes.

 

The Players Tribune has admitted that this is what they do with their articles though.

 

That's the whole gimmick of the site.  All of their articles are "written" by the player.  They don't credit anyone who is a writer.

 

Toffoli came up with the concept for the article.  He told the ghost writer all of the quotes in there.  The ghost writer cleaned it up and made it into a readable article.  This is the model for that website. 

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1 minute ago, hab29RETIRED said:

They are usually all ghost written and I haven’t usually seen the actual writer credited.

 

I fully realize that.  However, when Toffoli says:  "Had a great time putting this together" what context is that under?  i.e. is he implying he contacted that site and asked them to interview him and write that article?  What part did he put together exactly?  His comment really makes no sense if he didnt write it.  

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4 minutes ago, Sir_Boagalott said:

 

I fully realize that.  However, when Toffoli says:  "Had a great time putting this together" what context is that under?  i.e. is he implying he contacted that site and asked them to interview him and write that article?  What part did he put together exactly?  His comment really makes no sense if he didnt write it.  

 

Who contacted who is unclear.  Either the site contacted Habs PR Dept, or Toffoli's agent.... or the Habs PR Dept or his agent contacted the site.  How it came together doesn't really matter.  At some point Toffoli agreed to it.

 

That said, All of the things in the article are Toffoli's thoughts, obtained from an interview.

 

The ghostwriter takes those thoughts and assembles them into a coherent article. 

 

It is then sent to Toffoli (and likely his agent and Habs PR dept), who make any edits that might be needed and then they approve it and its published.

 

He's not sitting behind a keyboard and writing this, a ghost writer is, but its all based on Toffoli's thoughts.  Thats why he "had a great time putting this together"... he likely did a long interview with the ghost writer.

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